RowdyFan42 Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 I didn't blame Jerred Smithson for anything. Sorry Rowdy, but anyone who thinks Burrows is a victim here comes off like a diving apologist to me. Burrows got what divers get. Again, the only thing Auger allegedly did wrong was warn him before the game. Maybe "victim" is a bit of a stretch, but it sounds to me like you're saying it's perfectly acceptable to be a corrupt piece of sh!t ref who makes up his own rules as long as you don't get caught, and I just can't go along with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyFan42 Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 If the league says it's closed, that speaks volumes. Like the league's ever going to admit that they or the refs ever do anything wrong. The closest they've come to that -- or will ever come again -- is "despite the best efforts of the League, a goal was scored." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaneykoIsGod Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Maybe "victim" is a bit of a stretch, but it sounds to me like you're saying it's perfectly acceptable to be a corrupt piece of sh!t ref who makes up his own rules as long as you don't get caught, and I just can't go along with that. I don't know if I'd call Auger a "corrupt piece of sh!t ref" for dealing with a diver the way most refs do. If it was something personal, where Burrows kicked Auger's dog or peed in his pool or something, and Auger equalized it by calling penalties, then that would be someone making up his own rules. But as far as the make-up calls go in this particular instance, I don't see this as being much different from what any other ref does. I don't necessarily like make-up calls, but I dislike divers more. I understand the role make-up calls play and when I assume one is being called, I usually eventually accept it as part of the game. But I have yet to see a dive that didn't piss me off (Devils included). But that's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyFan42 Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 I don't necessarily like make-up calls, but I dislike divers more. I understand the role make-up calls play and when I assume one is being called, I usually eventually accept it as part of the game. But I have yet to see a dive that didn't piss me off (Devils included). But that's just me. I'm the other way around. I don't like diving either, but make-up calls have no place in the game. The referee's job is to enforce the rules, that's it. It's not his job to carry grudges or settle scores. He doesn't get to fabricate a penalty because somebody fooled him into making a bad call earlier. Once you introduce bias into the game, it's all downhill from there. If you've got biased referees, what guarantee do we have that the entire game isn't a sham? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daneyko_booster Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Refs ALWAYS remember when a player makes them look like a fool, and will ALWAYS get their revenge on that player, whether its calling ticky tacky BS calls against them, or NEVER calling another penalty for something legit that is done to that player. The human capacity for revenge is limitless, whether it be a ref or a player. There is no scandal here other than the fact the player talked about it, anyone who believes differently is naive. This happens all the time. Like Baudrillard said "before the task was to dissimulate scandal; today the task is to conceal the fact that there is none." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DaneykoIsGod Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 I'm the other way around. I don't like diving either, but make-up calls have no place in the game. The referee's job is to enforce the rules, that's it. It's not his job to carry grudges or settle scores. He doesn't get to fabricate a penalty because somebody fooled him into making a bad call earlier. Once you introduce bias into the game, it's all downhill from there. If you've got biased referees, what guarantee do we have that the entire game isn't a sham? I guess it's an agree to disagree situation. But for the hell of it, here's a hypothetical to explain how/why I generally accept make-up calls. If the Devils get called for a penalty they don't deserve because someone on the other team dove, I want the ref to even it up with a make-up call. By the same token, if the Devils draw an undeserved power play with a dive and the ref later on evens it up by making a make-up call, I don't necessarily like it but still feel like it's deserved, and will be more upset at the Devils player for diving in the first place than the ref for evening it up. Again, though, that's just my take. And apparently it's the NHL's too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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