NJD Jester 0 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Am I the only Devils fan left that still has some bitterness about Johnny Mac demanding a trade? I'm going to snag a retro sweater, and have been considering name options: Verbeek, Terreri, Dano. But MacLean 15 speaks to me. I always liked Mac in the red and green days, but have never gotten past the trade thing, even as he and Lou and the team have obviously made amends. I don't know ... maybe I just go Terreri (after Twitterers dismissed my Troy Crowder idea). Dude personified Devils hockey during some rather awful post-1988 times. <JESTER> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jas0nMacIsaac 92 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Muller would be a pretty sweet jersey in retro. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
devilsrule33 189 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 If Lou can forgive MacLean...I think you can too. Johnny Mac is a good choice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eldon 101 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 It's time to get over it. When Lou forgives, the fans can. (e.g.: Claude, Holik, Brendan) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ice dog 0 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 that goal he scored against panger in chi town '88 absolves him of all sin... seriously can still remember the flip i did off the sofa best moment in devils history as far as i'm concerned. your better off getting a Perry Anderson #25 or a Dave Maley #8, i mean why go with the one of the cliche big name guys, so much cooler to get one of the cool journey men that played hard in relative obscurity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
squishyx 60 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 +1 vote for Terreri Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThreeCups 19 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Always loved Mac myself, but his trade demand always left a sour taste in my mouth....and then when he went to the RAGS??!?! I said at the time I hope that it prevented his jersey from EVER being retired.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Terreri31 0 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 + 1 vote for Terreri!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gionta182 0 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 I've mostly forgiven MacLean because he is back with the organization, but his trade request still sits wrong with me. Forgiven, but not forgotten... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NJD Jester 0 Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 Always loved Mac myself, but his trade demand always left a sour taste in my mouth....and then when he went to the RAGS??!?! I said at the time I hope that it prevented his jersey from EVER being retired.... You make a good point. Ranger taint. Ruins Driver and Holik and Shanny in some regard too. But another poster makes the Chicago argument, and it's hard to ignore that either. <JESTER> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
swampdevil 0 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 lol.....my 1st ever Devils jersey was a late 80s Johnny Mac away xmas tree jersey,i got him to sign it too.Still have it. Forgiven but not forgotten is the best way to put it...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
njdevils2003champs 0 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Alain Chevurier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CRASHER 56 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 once they retire I think you gotta let the bitterness go it's ok to hate them when they play, but once they hang it up... time to move on and remember the merits of them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
manbearpig 0 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 I'm gonna go with the Lemieux retro. Can't believe I haven't heard anyone else talk about getting a good ol' Peppe Jersey! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don 4 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 I understood where JMac was coming from at the time of the trade demand. It was only fractionally about money. It was mostly about playing the kind of game that he wanted to play. He always wanted to be on the offensive side of the game... he thought he could score goals, if not for the Devils than for someone else. However, Devils management thought otherwise and limited his role to checking line and PK. Given that he was my favorite player at the time, and still my all-time favorite Devil, I thought he still had what it took to put the puck in the net. I even bet Crasher that he would score 25 goals with the Rangers. He ended up with 28, but Crasher maintained that they were mostly due to the skill of his PP linemate who's name starts with a G, ends in a Y and has a Z in it. When a guy demands a trade because the team is giving him grunt duty, I can understand that more than winning the Conn Smythe and then demanding to renegotiate your existing contract for more money. The former is about enjoying what you do for a living, while the latter is about greed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Devils731 36 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 If the trade demand was the last JMac and the Devils had ever gotten together then it would be a problem for me. Since JMac and the Devils are back together it's more like a temporary fight between two good friends that becomes water on the bridge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bostondevil11 136 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 I'm gonna go with the Lemieux retro. Can't believe I haven't heard anyone else talk about getting a good ol' Peppe Jersey! That is what I ordered! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pepperkorn 107 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Just, what's annoying is I feel ZERO sense of loyalty from the guy -- he's doing what's best for him at all times. So if it works out that's also what's best for the Devils swell. But I'm not going to kid myself into thinking he learned some valuable lesson about character. No - he learned the smart choice is sticking with Lou. and I think he has a healthy distrust of himself from his past experience. He knows he values hockey above all -- but he's still looking out for numero uno - and how can you hold that against a guy? But I KNOW he does not like kool ade - he'll go tot he store and buy it, he'll mix it up and serve it but he'll only politely wet his lips with his dixie cup full. He's the guy that ignores you when you say "Who didn't finish their kool ade?" but starts industriously helping you clean up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MantaRay 72 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Jester, I have the same issue about the trade demand (and also players looking to hold the franchise hostage). While I have respect for what J-Mac did for the franchise, there is a little disloyalty I feel for him (as well as Pepe, Holik, and Gomez). I accept them as part of the franchise, but there is still a little baggage that they come with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DaneykoIsGod 120 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 (edited) I'm gonna go with the Lemieux retro. Can't believe I haven't heard anyone else talk about getting a good ol' Peppe Jersey! That's what mine is. It weird, Pepe's contract demends were more of an offense than Mac's trade demands. But the fact that Pepe didn't sign with the Rangers makes him much more easily forgivable (in my eyes at least). I still can't believe MacLean was a Ranger. Edit: Also, the fact that Pepe got traded back and helped us win another Cup certainly helps his case too. Edited March 16, 2010 by DaneykoIsGod Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peteyvegas 7 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Ditto, to Don. You saved me typing time. Still my favorite all time. Love Lou, but I always choose a favorite player over a GM for who I'm with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jerrydevil 148 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 This stuff doesn't bother me because there's two sides to every story, and we don't know all that goes on behind the scenes. Regarding MacLean: Sometimes, it's over, and you don't want to stick it out anymore. When he was here, he worked hard and played well. That's what I remember, in addition to the big goals. Ranger taint most certainly does not affect Bruce Driver. The Devils didn't want him. What was the guy supposed to do? He still wanted to play and the Rangers wanted him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mouse 43 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 If the trade demand was the last JMac and the Devils had ever gotten together then it would be a problem for me. Since JMac and the Devils are back together it's more like a temporary fight between two good friends that becomes water on the bridge. Water ON the bridge is a bit of a problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Random Poster 85 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 (edited) Ranger taint most certainly does not affect Bruce Driver. The Devils didn't want him. What was the guy supposed to do? He still wanted to play and the Rangers wanted him. No, it's not that the Devils didn't want him, they did. However, Lou wouldn't give Driver a no-trade clause (Driver was among the first players with this in his contract w/the NYR). The Rangers did and that's where he went to be able to stay in the NJ/NY area. Edited March 16, 2010 by SJP20 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pepperkorn 107 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Edit: Also, the fact that Pepe got traded back and helped us win another Cup certainly helps his case too. See in keeping with my other posts analogy - Claude will always line up for the kool ade then gag on it, spit it out, say it sucks then run back for seconds as if it'll be better? Stevens treats it more like a vitamin pill... "I'm not saying I enjoy it -- but I know it' s good for me and it's good for you too so just choke it down men! Brodeur -- "I dunno -- I think it's kind of good " Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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