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This actually is much different. The parties will be arguing over the meaning of the terms of a contract. Assuming that the terms are ambiguous, the parties can introduce industry custom to prove their meaning. The Hossa, Pronger, Luongo contracts would be proof of an interpretation favorable to the Devils.

In addition, where a contract is involved, a party can not enforce its terms arbitrarily (it's called the implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing).

Maybe this goes to arbitration, but I think it's more likely that Lou/Vanderbeek go to Bettman and ask him where the line is. It gets sticky if the Devils can't live with the cap hit associated with a contract that the NHL will approve.

This is pretty black and white though. This isn't arcane arguing over ambiguous terms, this is the league using a clearly stated rule and having an easily seen point, that the players age is too old at the end of the contract. Since there are no contracts that take a player to this age the comparables of Hossa/Luongo will not be strong.

The contract never existed so the league is not enforcing their rules arbitrarily on a contract. It never existed so nothing was ever done to it, you can't contest a contract if it never came into existence.

The argument comes with whether can prove it's supposition that nobody believes this contract will be played out until Kovy is 44. I don't know which sides holds a better argument, but I think I see a stronger case made by the league since only 2 forwards all time have ever done so. So it's really not a contract argument, it's a powers argument at it's base. The NHLPA would need to try and make it be about the contract, but it's really not, it's about the leagues use of a stated power.

I also think the Devils will try to work this out without arbitration, if it's the years, which it seems to be, it seems like something that can be worked around.

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This is why I am a Devil fan and NOT an NHL fan.

I'm tired of getting crapped on.

It's been this way since before the first puck dropped, having to put out huge checks to the rivals.

The contract is a joke, but the league is a bigger joke for ignoring the other joke contracts until now.

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I literally have a headache from all of this, Goodnight ladies and gents hopefully we can wake to some good news. I noticed today tomorrow will be my one year anniversary since I joined NJDEVS!

congrats :cheers:

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Hmm, this smells fishy on a lot of fronts... for one, ESPN snubbed their noses at the press conference

It sure is lighting up the internet traffic scoreboard...

Betcha the LA Kings BeeAtched about the contract as well as complaints from other clubs/owners

logo3_normal.jpg NHLPlayerNews #NHL #SPORTS Wait a second: Kovalchuk deal axed: A person familiar with the issues raised says... http://bit.ly/9pxsnq http://bit.ly/4EyCn6

Man TSN.ca has the Devs plastered all over... the PR is outstanding!

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TSN Insider Darren Dreger explains that the deal was rejected due to the fact that the NHL does not believe that either Kovalchuk nor the Devils expected the 2004 Rocket Richard trophy winner would be playing near end of the contract and that it is a case of artificially lowering the annual average value of the contract.

Interesting wording. I don't see how the NHL would believe Kovalchuk wouldn't be playing near his 44th birthday while believing Luongo and Pronger would play near their 43rd and Hossa near his 42nd.

Or maybe I'm just tired and am reading into things that aren't really there.

STUPID NHL! CAN'T YOU DO THIS DURING THE DAY AND NOT JUST AS I'M GOING TO BED! :rant:

OK, I'm done. See ya'll tomorrow.

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Sorry I'm late. I hope it's already been said throughout this thread that this is bullsh!t. Someone in NHL management has an axe to grind with the Devils (who could that be?) and decided to reject this contract. It's probably been said already but if this was the Kings with the same offer it would be a done deal.

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Sorry I'm late. I hope it's already been said throughout this thread that this is bullsh!t. Someone in NHL management has an axe to grind with the Devils (who could that be?) and decided to reject this contract. It's probably been said already but if this was the Kings with the same offer it would be a done deal.

could this be related to the stevens/shanahan fiasco in early 90's

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yep, my ignorant brother is a blasphemous PENGUINS fan. He always says I'm not a hockey fan, just a Devils fan. You're DAMN RIGHT. All the $hit we get year after year, the money we had to pay the rangers to even exist, the fact that 3 CUPS isn't cause for 100x more respect than we get and the whining and bitching about our "trap" and the rules to prevent our players from what we do best, just because others can't. If nothing else, it comes down to G.D. JERSEY PRIDE! If you're in love with the Ranjerks, move to New York, if you're a Penguin Pinhead, move to Pittsburgh. It's not even just hockey, I also have to feel a certain amount of rage anytime NJ is the butt of off the cuff TV/movie jokes, regarded as "dirty" because all people see is the Newark port and think the whole state is like that, and of course the classic "what exit" remark you get from New Yorkers.

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Sorry I'm late. I hope it's already been said throughout this thread that this is bullsh!t. Someone in NHL management has an axe to grind with the Devils (who could that be?) and decided to reject this contract. It's probably been said already but if this was the Kings with the same offer it would be a done deal.

yeah i doubt it has anything to do with the fact that kovalchuk's contract is longer than any of these other contracts

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http://prohockeytalk...er&utm_term=NHL

First, here's a quick take from Nick Kypreos.

PA has 5 days to file grievance. Then league/PA must find independent arbitrator that's mutually agreed upon. Root canal sounds more fun!

TSN's James Duthie explains the consequences of a potential arbitration.

If grieved, arbitration is binding. If arb. rules in favour of NHL, he is supposed to fix deal so it "conforms to the requirements" of CBA.

(Darren Dreger added that the deal would be "dead" if the NHL player's association filed a grievance "until an arbitrator decides otherwise.")

John Shannon reports that the contract could either be changed or a grievance could be filed within five days. Cap Geek says that a resolution could be reached within three days in a best case scenario while the worst case scenario would see the deal settled within 15 days. (Ugh.)

Kyle "Spector" Richardson provides a broader explanation of the next possible steps.

So now it's up to either the Devils to restructure & re-file the contract or the PA to grieve it on Kovalchuk's behalf.

Again, it's important to note that the NHL hasn't made an official announcement on the deal being rejected, although that might be a formality at this point. Who knows? This might just be a lot of mildly entertaining banter over a technicality or two, but the two sides could indeed go through an ugly and rare arbitration process. We'll keep you up to date with everything from the rumors to the solid facts as this situation goes along.

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No, but Bettman could lose any shred of respect he still has in this league.

What is this "shred of respect" you speak of?

yeah i doubt it has anything to do with the fact that kovalchuk's contract is longer than any of these other contracts

Triumph, I may be irrational and angry but let me be that way. I'll leave the logic and reason to you.

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could this be related to the stevens/shanahan fiasco in early 90's

Nah. That was done by the book. The free agent rules were very strict at the time - they were essentially forced trades. If the team losing the player didn't accept the other teams' compensation, they could counter with their own proposed compensation. If that was in turn rejected, it went to arbitration where one of the two compensation arrangements would be picked. St. Louis had to compensate for signing Shanahan and the Devils made the case that Rod Brind'amour and Curtis Joseph were useless to them. Hence, Scott Stevens.

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So i was listening to some of my Less Than Jake cds and noticed that the chorus of this song sounds like hes saying "thats why they call him Ilya." I know that those are not the actual lyrics but it is pretty damn funny.

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