mouse Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Lou didn't say he won't budge he said he can't budge. Lou ain't moving. Not cuz he doesn't want to just because after careful calculation, he realizes he can't. He already has enough on his plate trying to sign Kovy at the current offer. Don't worry about Lou's cap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 The problem seems to be his apparent plan to make cap space is failing. I get it. It's just a cost/benefit analysis, which is always inexact. Bird in the hand, blah, blah, blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 (edited) Yes there is. You want to do everything you can to prevent him from "testing the market", which for Devils players, usually means he's sighing elsewhere. This is more true for UFA's. We're better off waiting until next year when ZP9 is a RFA. I have confidence that we'll be able to offer him a good price that no other team wants to match. Don't worry about Lou's cap! Fixed. Edited July 7, 2010 by ben00rs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 (edited) This is more true for UFA's. We're better off waiting until next year when ZP9 is a RFA. I have confidence that we'll be able to offer him a good price that no other team wants to match. Problem is, he would be going to arbitration, in which case he knows he's getting at least $6 million the following season, after which he can "test the market". See, e.g., Scott Gomez. Edited July 7, 2010 by Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justdo3043 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 (edited) This is more true for UFA's. We're better off waiting until next year when ZP9 is a RFA. I have confidence that we'll be able to offer him a good price that no other team wants to match. Fixed. if we don't sign paul kariya to a 3 year 15 million deal Edited July 7, 2010 by justdo3043 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CADevilsFan Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Lou didn't say he won't budge he said he can't budge. Lou ain't moving. Not cuz he doesn't want to just because after careful calculation, he realizes he can't. He already has enough on his plate trying to sign Kovy at the current offer. Where did he say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelastonealive Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 I am going to go take a nap. The reason why this is important? Last nap I took, I woke up to the news that we traded for Arnott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 the discussion in this thread was more sensible when it was about lunch options and lawn trimming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 if we don't sign paul kariya to a 3 year 15 million deal Barf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Is there anyone with me here in WANTING Greene to play on the PP? If we sign Kovy, those two on a well-coached PP together would do wonders. I do, but my primary concern re: PMD is 5 on 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Barf. EWWWWW. Kariya???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njskaguy33 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Kings will not have to dump any salary. Their big concern is what it will mean when it comes time to negotiate with Doughty, Jack Johnson and Wayne Simmonds. They're all RFAs, but Doughty is the kind of player that a team will be very tempted to give an offer sheet to, even if it means losing three/four first round picks. If Kovy is gone, the Devils don't have any serious cap issues for the foreseeable future as much as nobody likes having Rolston on the team. If that's what happens (and I think it will) get on the phone with Parise ASAP and work out a long term deal. Thanks, Daniel...to me, that sounds like the most reasonable outcome and Lou is, above all, a reasonable man. Also, to the person who said that Devs are like a pepper ladden sandwich, yeah the team is old but youth doesn't neccessarily translate into good. Chicago is so good because they were terrible to the point of almost folding for a bunch of years and got a bunch of great first round picks. Like Daniel said, I pretty much think that if Kovy goes by the wayside, we'll be rolling into next season with the band as is. Nobody is going to give us anything of value for Rolly or White and I don't have any faith in our youth to pick up the slack. While the first part of last year really did prove me wrong, we don't have any potential superstars in the system (Joeferson (sp?) aside, but who knows if he's ready) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 I think Lou is done with this. He is calling other agents to see what else is on the market per TG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 I think Lou is done with this. He is calling other agents to see what else is on the market per TG. what the hell are you talking about, TG has said no such thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CADevilsFan Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 I think Lou is done with this. He is calling other agents to see what else is on the market per TG. Um where did TG say that? It's not on his twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs26 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 we are above the 10% above the cap space i believe. you have to be below it to have the go ahead to sign then clear space. We're $4 million under a $59 million cap. If signing Kovy means we go above the 10% threshhold then you're talking $10 million a year. For that price I'd pack his bags and let him go to Russia. Or chip into the Kings' fund-raiser to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 (edited) Problem is, he would be going to arbitration, in which case he knows he's getting at least $6 million the following season, after which he can "test the market". See, e.g., Scott Gomez. That's fair. If you believe he's going to arbitration it's a bit more complicated. But after arbitration you still have time to lock him up to a long-term deal. But it is more dangerous. I think the real issue here is that ZP9 might not want to sign now. He might want to see how next season goes before he signs a long-term deal. Edited July 7, 2010 by ben00rs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestevens Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Anyone else feel like Kovys agent bluffed with the decision to come today tweet to have the kings up their offer? It seems like he may not want to play in new jersey if he is willing to let an 8.5 mil per year sit on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs26 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 after all of this i wont ever question LL will to go after a big name free agent....seems like he wants kovy really bad Unfortunately not getting him will only add to the Devils can't retain FA's parroting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 what the hell are you talking about, TG has said no such thing Lamoriello said waiting on Kovalchuk is not keeping him from conducting other team business as far as signing players. Um where did TG say that? It's not on his twitter. It certainly is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CADevilsFan Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Lamoriello said waiting on Kovalchuk is not keeping him from conducting other team business as far as signing players. It certainly is. In no way does that mean he's out. That's a crazy conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Lamoriello said waiting on Kovalchuk is not keeping him from conducting other team business as far as signing players. It certainly is. wow. so in other words, he's not talking with grossman 24 hours a day. big news!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Lamoriello said waiting on Kovalchuk is not keeping him from conducting other team business as far as signing players. I think you took that the wrong way. It was referring to Mottau. The idea was that the Kovy signing is not stopping anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJayDevil Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Lamoriello said waiting on Kovalchuk is not keeping him from conducting other team business as far as signing players. It certainly is. Again, you're such an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartysGlove Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Lamoriello said waiting on Kovalchuk is not keeping him from conducting other team business as far as signing players. It certainly is. since when did "waiting on Kovalchuk" mean "done with Kovalchuk" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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