Jimmy Leeds Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 (edited) This isn't "Can" they..........it's "should" they build this Mosque. Edited August 16, 2010 by Jimmy Leeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 I don't care. But that's not an option for this question. I haven't followed this story too closely, but I figure it would make sense for the Muslims to back off on this one. Build it somewhere else and avoid all this controversy. They're just asking for trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaneykoIsGod Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 The First Amendment still protects Freedom of Religion, right? Last time I checked, that didn't come with a list of acceptable and unacceptable addresses at which to build houses of worship. Freedom doesn't appeal to everyone's sensibilities all the time, but the Constitution says the KKK is allowed to march, flags are allowed to be burned, Muhammed is allowed to be drawn and mosques are allowed to be built a few blocks away from Ground Zero. Anything else is un-American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Leeds Posted August 16, 2010 Author Share Posted August 16, 2010 Obama tells the Jews not to build in Jerusalem so as to not "offend" the Arabs, but doesn't tell this radical Imam not to build in NY as so as to not offend the 80% of Americans offended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njskaguy33 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Well, according to a cursory search on Google Maps, there is an exsisting Muslim prayer center a few blocks away from Ground Zero, but it doesn't look to be a fully registered mosque, only a place where you can pray and wash with few facilities. Still, DiG is 100% correct. America was founded on the premise of religious freedom and if the Muslim community wants to build a big fancy mosque to serve the downtown area, nobody has the right to disuade then from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squishyx Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Obama tells the Jews not to build in Jerusalem so as to not "offend" the Arabs, but doesn't tell this radical Imam not to build in NY as so as to not offend the 80% of Americans offended. Obama told the Jews not to build in East Jerusalem because thats the land where the world agrees a future Palestinian state will reside. It has nothing to do with offending Arabs and everything to do with abiding by existing agreements. You are also comparing 20,000 residencies to 1 Mosque (actually it's a recreation center open to people of all religions that includes a Mosque). "Monumental" doesn't even begin to describe how dramatic the difference is. --- Should they? Probably not, I question their motives for building it. I certainly think they should be allowed to though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Pride 26 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Let me go build a church over in Iran, lets see how well that goes over. Hell no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squishyx Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Let me go build a church over in Iran, lets see how well that goes over. Hell no There are lots of churches in Iran. US state department lists up to 350,000 Christians who reside there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oofrostonoo Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Obama tells the Jews not to build in Jerusalem so as to not "offend" the Arabs, but doesn't tell this radical Imam not to build in NY as so as to not offend the 80% of Americans offended. Lol.... the mosque isn't taking over a temple, putting it's inhabitants into a ghetto, and rebuilding because they claimed the land under it. I don't care if this thing is built, it's a stupid issue that was only brought up to scare people. Islam is just another make-believe religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squishyx Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 (edited) Lol.... the mosque isn't taking over a temple, putting it's inhabitants into a ghetto, and rebuilding because they claimed the land under it. Fighting misinformation with misinformation is only going to make the whole world dumber. I don't care if this thing is built, it's a stupid issue that was only brought up to scare people. Islam is just another make-believe religion. Yarr Edited August 16, 2010 by squishyx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Leeds Posted August 17, 2010 Author Share Posted August 17, 2010 I don't care if this thing is built, it's a stupid issue that was only brought up to scare people. Islam is just another make-believe religion. Careful, they may come and slowly cut your head off..................they've been known to do that, ya' know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 i think its disrespectful to the families of the incident. there was a woman who blogged about her mother being killed in the attacks and how even though she is muslim, she thinks it's wrong for the mosque to be built near ground zero. i have no idea what the link is, but when you have members of your own religion saying don't do it, maybe you shouldn't. and i'm sorry, but obama should stay out of this one. there's separation of church and state for a reason. regardless of his own retraction a few days ago, he gave his two cents of approval, you can't undo that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestevens Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 (edited) edit: I retract my statement before someone flames at me. But I will say that if they are entitled to it, if they are not allowed to build a Mosque then they should be taking churches out of NYC as well. Freedom of religion, everyone should be allowed to worship as they please. Edited August 17, 2010 by SteveStevens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilish34 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 I don't care. But that's not an option for this question. I haven't followed this story too closely, but I figure it would make sense for the Muslims to back off on this one. Build it somewhere else and avoid all this controversy. They're just asking for trouble. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oofrostonoo Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 (edited) What about the actual people who live in NYC or work in the area? I don't see much outrage from them. Mostly from people on TV, or from other places... What would an appropriate distance from ground zero be? It is not visible from anywhere at the site...just knowing that its a few blocks away enough to piss people off? Edited August 17, 2010 by oofrostonoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Leeds Posted August 17, 2010 Author Share Posted August 17, 2010 Landing gear landed in that building.........too close. My link Well I guess our liberal tilted board thinks they "should" build it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squishyx Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Landing gear landed in that building.........too close. My link Well I guess our liberal tilted board thinks they "should" build it. That's cute, a bunch of hysterical conservatives make an issue out of nothing and are now using that ruckus they created to go on to say "hey look, it's causing a commotion! some peace!". It's a perpetual rhetoric machine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 (edited) I don't care. But that's not an option for this question. I haven't followed this story too closely, but I figure it would make sense for the Muslims to back off on this one. Build it somewhere else and avoid all this controversy. They're just asking for trouble. Pretty much spot on. Yes, they have every right to, but this is just going to cause such a big fuss. Pick a different location, and move on. It's not worth all the controversy. But I'm definitely against it. Comes across as disrespectful, and I'm wondering why, in all of New York, they chose this location. Edited August 17, 2010 by Devilsfan118 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jimmy Leeds Posted August 17, 2010 Author Share Posted August 17, 2010 Comes across as disrespectful, and I'm wondering why, in all of New York, they chose this location. and the name. Cordoba House is a symbol of Mulsim conquest and (what they think is) superiority. Trying to rub our noses in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaneykoIsGod Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 and the name. Cordoba House is a symbol of Mulsim conquest and (what they think is) superiority. Trying to rub our noses in it. According to those who oppose it, yes, that is the reference being made by the name. Cordoba was a Spanish city conquered by Muslims. But that city was also the site of four centuries of peace between Muslims, Christians and Jews. That is the chapter of history for which the Cordoba Initiative was named, according to its founder, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf. The name was changed once the controvercy emerged over it, BTW. It is now called Park51. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 The First Amendment still protects Freedom of Religion, right? Last time I checked, that didn't come with a list of acceptable and unacceptable addresses at which to build houses of worship. Freedom doesn't appeal to everyone's sensibilities all the time, but the Constitution says the KKK is allowed to march, flags are allowed to be burned, Muhammed is allowed to be drawn and mosques are allowed to be built a few blocks away from Ground Zero. Anything else is un-American. You're misguiding the argument here. The issue is not about it being constitutional or not. It's about it being unnecessary. Building a mosque around ground zero is insensitive to the families affected by 9/11. While Islam in general can't be blamed, it was Muslims who knocked down the towers. Building a Mosque there is absolutely insulting and unnecessary. It's not about being anti-Islam, it's about not wanting something that's a "slap in the face" to Americans to be erected. You want it to be a community center? OK, then build a temple and a church along with the mosque in that building. No construction crew is gonna be willing to build that mosque anyway. There are plenty other places to build a giant mosque. Do it anywhere else and it's fine. Even somewhere in the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squishyx Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 You're misguiding the argument here. The issue is not about it being constitutional or not. It's about it being unnecessary. Building a mosque around ground zero is insensitive to the families affected by 9/11. While Islam in general can't be blamed, it was Muslims who knocked down the towers. Building a Mosque there is absolutely insulting and unnecessary. It's not about being anti-Islam, it's about not wanting something that's a "slap in the face" to Americans to be erected. You want it to be a community center? OK, then build a temple and a church along with the mosque in that building. No construction crew is gonna be willing to build that mosque anyway. There are plenty other places to build a giant mosque. Do it anywhere else and it's fine. Even somewhere in the city. There is a Muslim woman who is on a board that basically is deciding how to build the 9-11 memorial at the site. Is her presence "insensitive and insulting"? You want it to be a community center? OK, then build a temple and a church along with the mosque in that building. Well it's not a general purpose community center, it's a Muslim community center open to all people of all faiths that also includes a Mosque. No construction crew is gonna be willing to build that mosque anyway. how naive can you be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Leeds Posted August 17, 2010 Author Share Posted August 17, 2010 how naive can you be? Are you kidding? Good luck finding a NY crew to build it. They are already plotting to avoid this travesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oofrostonoo Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Are you kidding? Good luck finding a NY crew to build it. They are already plotting to avoid this travesty. I'm sure that will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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