westcoastdevfan Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 (edited) If Lou could make a deal today, who do you all believe is akeeper and who is expendable? My List: Keepers: 1. Elias 2. Langenbrunner 3. Friesen 4. Rupp 5. Stevens 6. Niedermayer 7. Rafalski 8. White 9. Martin 10. Marshall 11. Rasmussen 12. Albelin 13. Brodeur 14. Schwab 15. Madden 16. Pandolfo 17. Brylin Expendable: 1. Gomez 2. Gionta 3. Berglund 4. Bicek 5. Hale 6. Larionov 7. Brown As I was making the list I let my heart decide for me. I guess we don't have much to offer. Edited December 30, 2003 by westcoastdevfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 If we've found out anything the last couple of years with Lou it's that nobody is untouchable, Brodeur and Stevens aside anyway. That said I don't see any big deals being done. The team's still doing well they are the defending champs. This core deserves a chance to repeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weekes Head Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Keepers Brodeur Stevens Niedermayer Expendable: Rest of team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoastdevfan Posted December 30, 2003 Author Share Posted December 30, 2003 I want your opinions. I know how Lou works. I drink my kool-aid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devildude Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Westcoast... I amost always agree with you but... Hale would be a keeper to me.. He is good, well paired with martin... learning.. I could see Marshall, Rasmussen, Albeline and Rupp being argued as expendible.. Brylin was not mentioned.. He is a keeper.... IMO Frankly, i rather like our team as is and think we have a shot at trying to repeat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devildude Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 You are going to open a can of worms you know Westcoasst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoastdevfan Posted December 30, 2003 Author Share Posted December 30, 2003 Brylin was not mentioned.. He is a keeper.... IMO I forgot Sarge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weekes Head Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 You are going to open a can of worms you know Westcoasst The can was opened years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoastdevfan Posted December 30, 2003 Author Share Posted December 30, 2003 You are going to open a can of worms you know Westcoasst I just want to know how other fans gauge the talent of this team. I have been less then impressed over the last few games. B) But, then again earlier in the year I thought this team couldn't be beaten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devildude Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Me too, but stalls come better at the begining or middel of a season, never the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 You are going to open a can of worms you know Westcoasst I just want to know how other fans gauge the talent of this team. I have been less then impressed over the last few games. B) But, then again earlier in the year I thought this team couldn't be beaten. You know over the last twelve games the Devils have only lost to one team. It seems so traumatic because we lost to that team three times in that span and plus had a bad tie or two like the Chicago game...but still three losses in twelve games isn't terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoastdevfan Posted December 30, 2003 Author Share Posted December 30, 2003 Damn Islanders...making my perfect team seem beatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devildude Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Damn Islanders...making my perfect team seem beatable. Could be worse, Rather the Isles than the RAGS.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weekes Head Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 This team hasn't played horribly, even badly in these past few games. However, they are starting to show that they DO miss Langenbrunner and, hell, even Stevenson. They are also starting to show that Larionov is proving to be useless on this team. They are showing that Brodeur can't play 35839 games in a row (because he WILL tire sooner or later) and that only playing Schwab a grand total of two times will take its toll on his physical health. Finally, they are showing that some players really need to step it up and stop it with their inconsistant, otherwise poor play and start getting their heads out of their asses and PLAY the way they should. Last night was just a case of the team not showing up for a seemingly important game (and, well, the Isles played a VERY good game). It can't happen in the future. If this team can't get revved up for a game like this, then how can we trust that they will in the future? However, like I said above, there are reasons why maybe this has happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek21 Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Untouchable: Brodeur, Stevens, Niedermayer, Elias Keepers: Madden, Langenbrunner, Gionta, Pandolfo, Brylin, Stevenson, Martin, Hale, Rasmussen Expendable: Rafalski, Gomez, Berglund, Rupp, Friesen, Marshall, White, Larionov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devildude Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Expendable: Rafalski, Gomez, Berglund, Rupp, Friesen, Marshall, White, Larionov Ummm no rag fan.,.. Freisen and white are not expendable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoastdevfan Posted December 30, 2003 Author Share Posted December 30, 2003 c'mon Triumph....I'm waiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 (edited) Me, I think everyone who isn't young is going to stay. Anyone who is could be moved. I don't want to trade Gomez; center is where we are weakest, and we have no one ready in the system to replace him. Gionta can stay, too, so long as he isn't put on a scoreline. Berglund and Rupp, Hale and Martin; these are the expendable players. Right now, we've got a 4th line of Berglund-Larionov-Rupp, which I like, but Stevenson will be coming back soon, as will Langenbrunner. Both those players may lose their places, and so become expendable. I'm not sure what we could get for either. Hale and Martin, I wouldn't like to see either of them go, but if Lou thinks we need a scorer, one of them could go. Edited December 30, 2003 by Triumph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJayDevil Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 (edited) Untouchables: Brodeur Stevens Nieds Raf Madden Langy Elias Pando Brylin Martin Hale Everyone else could be dealt if necessary. Edited December 30, 2003 by NJayDevil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 This team hasn't played horribly, even badly in these past few games. However, they are starting to show that they DO miss Langenbrunner and, hell, even Stevenson. They are also starting to show that Larionov is proving to be useless on this team. They are showing that Brodeur can't play 35839 games in a row (because he WILL tire sooner or later) and that only playing Schwab a grand total of two times will take its toll on his physical health. Finally, they are showing that some players really need to step it up and stop it with their inconsistant, otherwise poor play and start getting their heads out of their asses and PLAY the way they should. I don't disagree with any of that, but sometimes everyone (myself included) tends to turn the microscope on a little too much I mean other teams have problems too...heh. Last night was just a case of the team not showing up for a seemingly important game (and, well, the Isles played a VERY good game). It can't happen in the future. If this team can't get revved up for a game like this, then how can we trust that they will in the future? However, like I said above, there are reasons why maybe this has happened. I don't neccesarily agree they didn't show up. Okay the first five minutes or so sucked and that's bad. They played okay the rest of the first, good in the second though they did give up the two goals. Then they just flat-out got frustrated with having two straight losses to the Isles and on their way to a third loss and took some stupid penalties. We trust that they'll get revved up because of last year. Hell last year, probably the most important game of the regular season was the last matchup with the Flyers. And the Devils LOST that game. They made out okay in the end though. S(p)it happens sometimes. The third period last night reminded me a little of Game 6 against the Ducks last year where the team just went on tilt because they were frustrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 I don't think the Devils didn't show up last night. They just got outplayed. Had nothing to do with Brodeur playing a lot of games, or this, or that, they got outplayed by an Islander team with an excellent top 4 and a very solid top 9. The Devils just don't have a consistent offense. Elias was dominant last night again, but where was everyone else? Gomez did have some good shifts, but by and large the Devils just weren't forechecking, and the Islanders always had a man hounding them when they did have the puck in deep. They were never able to set up in front at all. And plus, their shooters at the point can't ever hit the net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devildude Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 I agree that the Devils were outplayed, but.. The Isles are good... that should be mentioned.. or at least their play as of late is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Like a lotta, lotta Devil fans, I'd like to see some more goals, and I think the guys that are already here are capable of supplying more offense. But if the right deal comes along, Lou will pull the trigger. I don't know what the right deal is. Those Mogilny trades don't come around every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullet_mel Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 (edited) Untouchable: Martin Brodeur Most Likely Untouchable: Scott Stevens Scott Niedermayer Edited December 30, 2003 by mullet_mel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoastdevfan Posted December 30, 2003 Author Share Posted December 30, 2003 I like Martin and his shot, but defensive defensemen like Hale come a dime a dozen. I would wrather keep Martin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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