Rock Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/devils/devs_revival_may_silence_arnott_0ypTfux5t79u5ouflOfqEK Montreal is rumored to be interested, and Canadiens GM Pierre Gauthier and a Habs scout double-teamed the Devils' 5-2 triumph over the Panthers in Newark Sunday. Gauthier would not confirm nor deny interest, but did note pointedly GMs should never lie to the press. Otherwise, the Caps are said to be interested, and even Nashville, which traded Arnott as captain to the Devils last summer, may be looking, regardless of any resentments from its front office. Lamoriello seemed to signal the opening of his used player lot when he dealt Jamie Langenbrunner to Dallas Jan. 7. Perhaps that was a deck-clearing move, since Langenbrunner was asked to waive his no-trade clause just one week after Jacques Lemaire replaced John MacLean. Langenbrunner was asked the same question during training camp. "I had no problem with [Langenbrunner]," Lemaire said. "That [trade] was the boss. I even told Lou that Jamie's attitude was much, much better than it was last year." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeCups Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I hope we keep Arnie around and bring him back next year....he still has some left in the tank, and I love my big centers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaneykoIsGod Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 "I had no problem with [Langenbrunner]," Lemaire said. "That [trade] was the boss. I even told Lou that Jamie's attitude was much, much better than it was last year." In other words, he stopped pooping on the carpet but still occasionally chewed up Lemaire's slippers. The GM said he and his team never threw in the towel on this season to concentrate on improving for next year and beyond. "We would never have said that, ever, even the way we were playing," Lamoriello said. "Unless you play to the best of your abilities and do everything you can to win, you're not a professional." In Lou We Trust. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestevens Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I don't really think that we can afford to not trade Arnott, with Kovalchuk costing the extra 1st and a 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) I don't really think that we can afford to not trade Arnott, with Kovalchuk costing the extra 1st and a 3rd. Unless we could get a first back for him... I know it's wishful thinking, but hey, ya never know. Maybe a small bidding war will emerge for arnott. Edit: and i misread your post. Essentially i agree with you. Edited January 25, 2011 by Devilsfan118 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risky Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 You're not getting a first for Arnott. The question is how high a second can you garner, and it's not going to be all that high because he'll go to a playoff contender. I like trading him because we can always resign him in the offseason if we'd like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravityFat Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 yea i think we can talk him in to 'wink wink, go have your fun and come back for next season when we have a real captain and a real coach' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam85491 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) You're not getting a first for Arnott. The question is how high a second can you garner, and it's not going to be all that high because he'll go to a playoff contender. I like trading him because we can always resign him in the offseason if we'd like. Don't trade him! Edited January 25, 2011 by adam85491 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Not trading him is loopy. With the team playing better, guys like Arnott have perhaps upped their trade value. The fire sale must go on. Let's get real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Can't see how any trade talk could be silenced with this team, especially with a free-agent-to-be like Arnott. This is a nice little run, but the Devils have almost no margin for error...one three-game losing streak and whatever small chance they have of making the playoffs is toast. Even if they go, say, 21-9-4 or something like that the rest of the way, this team still doesn't even finish at .500. The good thing is that the deadline is still a ways off...we'll likely know by then if this 6-0-1 burst was nothing more than the highest peak in a season of valleys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 We might be able to fetch a deal like Tkachuk did with St. Louis and Atlanta did in 06-07. Tkachuk garnered a 1st, 2nd and 3rd along with Glen Metropolit. We might have to acquire negotiating rights after which would see us send a pick back to that team that gets Arnott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestevens Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 We might be able to fetch a deal like Tkachuk did with St. Louis and Atlanta did in 06-07. Tkachuk garnered a 1st, 2nd and 3rd along with Glen Metropolit. We might have to acquire negotiating rights after which would see us send a pick back to that team that gets Arnott. Tha chances of getting a 1, 2, and a 3rd for Arnott is insane, he won't get a 2nd and a 3rd, nor a 1st. The Tkachuk trade was more than a massive overpayment. Arnott may be able to fetch a 2nd, he should anyway. I don't think prospects will be involved for any trade for him, if you are GMing this team you have to look for a 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSkirt Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) Trade him. there's just about 14 games before the deadline, let him go asap. Maybe re-sign him for next season, but get some asset back in return now. Edited January 25, 2011 by BlueSkirt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risky Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 If you do trade him, you trade him at the deadline when you can milk the most value out of him at the height of another team's desperation. i think 2nd and low grade prospect is the best you can hope for. Maybe something like 2+4 or 2+5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Can't see how any trade talk could be silenced with this team, especially with a free-agent-to-be like Arnott. This is a nice little run, but the Devils have almost no margin for error...one three-game losing streak and whatever small chance they have of making the playoffs is toast. Even if they go, say, 21-9-4 or something like that the rest of the way, this team still doesn't even finish at .500. The good thing is that the deadline is still a ways off...we'll likely know by then if this 6-0-1 burst was nothing more than the highest peak in a season of valleys. my thoughts exactly. they need to cut the deficit between us and 8th at least in half before we consider keeping Arnott at the deadline. Love the effort he's put forth, and the entire team for that matter during this run, lets sustain it before we write off becoming sellers at the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 arnott's worth a 2nd at most, but he definitely has to go. i don't think he really fits in next season either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risky Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I think you'll get a couple of 2nd rounder offers, so someone will have to sweeten the pot to put it over the top. Why not next year? Who's stepping into that center spot? Josefson will be on the team, but he's not really ready to anchor the position. Your boy Couturier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Tha chances of getting a 1, 2, and a 3rd for Arnott is insane, he won't get a 2nd and a 3rd, nor a 1st. The Tkachuk trade was more than a massive overpayment. Arnott may be able to fetch a 2nd, he should anyway. I don't think prospects will be involved for any trade for him, if you are GMing this team you have to look for a 2nd. There will be plenty of teams on the bubble or at the 8th seed that will overpay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaneykoIsGod Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 arnott's worth a 2nd at most, but he definitely has to go. i don't think he really fits in next season either. Are there any GP limits for Josefson next year that would require a pay raise like there is this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I think you'll get a couple of 2nd rounder offers, so someone will have to sweeten the pot to put it over the top. Why not next year? Who's stepping into that center spot? Josefson will be on the team, but he's not really ready to anchor the position. Your boy Couturier? there won't be that many offers, most teams can't fit arnott under the cap, and plus arnott has an NMC - that limits his value. also montreal's 2nd round pick this year went to florida for dominic moore last season. josefson or henrique would play there. henrique is tearing it up, relatively, for a first-year pro in the AHL. if they don't work out, slide zubrus in there. arnott really hasn't played that great since his hot start, and i don't like his (at times) lackadaisical play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Arnott will not yield more than a 2nd rounder, but more likely a 3rd rounder, but it really depends on how bad Camelari is hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risky Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Arnott's contract is up this year, so he'll be cheaper next year. I hope Henrique pans out in the NHL next year, but I'd feel much more comfortable with an Arnott in the lineup, even if Elias slots into the center. I have to go find the FA list to see if there's a better option that can be signed off the market, but 2011-12 is the "reckoning" of all our cap issues, unless a big move is made (Elias, Brodeur, Rolston). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) Arnott's contract is up this year, so he'll be cheaper next year. I hope Henrique pans out in the NHL next year, but I'd feel much more comfortable with an Arnott in the lineup, even if Elias slots into the center. I have to go find the FA list to see if there's a better option that can be signed off the market, but 2011-12 is the "reckoning" of all our cap issues, unless a big move is made (Elias, Brodeur, Rolston). arnott still won't be dirt cheap, and he hasn't really played all that well this year. the devils still have cap issues next year. if it came down to arnott or greene, i'd want greene. greene is at least durable. arnott has remained injury-free this year, but he will be 37 at the beginning of next year. there's just no guarantees that he will be any good. he's already had his ice time reduced. he doesn't kill penalties. eric belanger is the only other suitable center. neither of these seem like good solutions especially when henrique has 3 shots a game as an AHL rookie this season, and has maintained a positive plus/minus on a rather weak team. Edited January 25, 2011 by Triumph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risky Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Sarcastic quips aside, it's also possible the NJD draft a center high. Not that he'd necessarily play in the NHL next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justdo3043 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Not trading him is loopy. With the team playing better, guys like Arnott have perhaps upped their trade value. The fire sale must go on. Let's get real. seriously...be reasonable people...speaking of reasonable...i think we could get a 2nd and 3rd or 4th...maybe in different years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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