Guest Devsrule Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 11-2 in the last 3 games. If they cant beat the rangers than they cannot compete in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsrule33 Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 It is just a slump. We just need a bit of tinkering and we will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdhockey Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wwwwwwwwwwwhhhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyy S.O.S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdevils_info Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 (edited) It is just a slump. We just need a bit of tinkering and we will be fine. Tinkering... we need a large hammer, not a little one. Something needs to shake the team, and I worry a trade is the only solution... 'specially if Stevens remains out. Edited February 12, 2004 by njdevils_info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 2001-2002 revisited. Book it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanity_gallops Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 (edited) Flyers went through a terrible slump for a period of time... and now they're doing just fine. Then again, they were forced to make some trades due to injury; maybe the Devils will be forced to make trades, too. Unfortunately, as has been stated more times than I can count, the Devils have very little in the way of bargaining chips. Martin won't be traded... Lou thinks he's the next Niedermayer. Rafalski won't be traded, nor will Hale. Brown? Albelin? Worth nothing. Of the forwards corps, the only players I could see possibly being traded are Marshall, Rupp, Berglund, Bicek... and Friesen if a really damn good deal springs up. Not much in the way of leverage on the roster. I really think it's like a few other posters noted in the game thread -- if Stevens isn't coming back, I think Lamoriello "takes a dive" on this year. I'm not saying salary dumps, but I could see him making deals to try and strengthen the team for the next season -- which could be a good thing if it means focusing intently on re-signing Niedermayer. Eh, who knows. It's all speculation. Edited February 12, 2004 by insanity_gallops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weekes Head Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 iggy, my fear is that this isn't 'just a slump' in terms of confidence without Stevens in the lineup. I felt as though this team was still pretty strong at first when he went down, but that has started to die down to the point where they look awful out there. Without the leadership, the D looks very shaky and I don't know if I'm confident this team will go far (trades or not) without Stevens in the lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteyvegas Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 I would hate to think that we will sacrifice the "youth" movement on D for this season. But it looks like Burns' tenure is in peril if he doesn't sit down and devise some sort of offensive scheme. You simply cannot score with only 3 men in the offensive zone, all behind the net!! Well, it wont be the first time this team cooked a coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djstubbs Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 It is just a slump. We just need a bit of tinkering and we will be fine. Like someone told me earlier in the year, the Devils will have a midseason slump, get out of it and come back in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIDevsFan1 Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 2001-2002 revisited. Book it. If I remeber correctly, we had a horrible slump in 99-00---right around this time (I don't remember but that's probably what lead to Ftorek's firing.). I'd rather revisit that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swampdevil Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 as much as losing to the rags sucks and as bad as the whole team has been i think its more important to get everyone healthy and going in the right direction when the end of the season is in sight.if the slumps continues tho it will be tough positioning once the playoffs start--look how important it turned out to be last year----swampy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbdf Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Well, if the slump continues, Larry is waiting in the wings, collecting his devils paycheck, waiting for the right head coaching job to come along still - hey, wouldn' t be the first time lou fired a coach when the team went into a tailspin, you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJD Jester Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 It is just a slump. We just need a bit of tinkering and we will be fine. Tinkering... we need a large hammer, not a little one. Something needs to shake the team, and I worry a trade is the only solution... 'specially if Stevens remains out. But we're the Devils. That means Grant Marshall when we all want Miro Satan. Then again, look how that worked out <JESTER> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepperkorn Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 It just seems like such a waste... but fact is Burns is ultimately accountable for this situation. He knows it... he was down right flushed behind the bench last night. He's got to pull it together and not fear... I smell fear!! Anyone else? Nieds helms a jackrabbit Devil team but the teams been built around a grizzly... Nieds drives me nuts. Always has always will. I love him but with all he's got we all know that SOMETHING is missing. I confess I pretended I saw it ... I just DON'T SEE IT guys! He can't stand alone and drive this team. It won't be what I'm comfortable with anyhow. I see no real strength -- I see solitude and peace and I see a snippy temper and I see ability to stand up for stuff... I really want to articulate what's missing. Hmm... he doesn't get blinded by purpose... he's not apologetic exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteyvegas Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 It may take time, PK. This has always been a breach loaded team. The Young 'uns dont have the confidence yet. Nor do they have the blind trust in themselves that they have when Scotty is around. The house is safer and more complete when DAD gets home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djstubbs Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 It just seems like such a waste... but fact is Burns is ultimately accountable for this situation. He knows it... he was down right flushed behind the bench last night. He's got to pull it together and not fear... I smell fear!! Anyone else? OMG, Burns was going crazy pushing players off the bench and stuff, he took the tirade out of the locker room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamptrash Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 11-2 in the last 3 games. If they cant beat the rangers than they cannot compete in the playoffs. settle down sparky. it's called a slump. sometimes even the garbage teams have to win a game. we'll be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadvlfan Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 I would hate to think that we will sacrifice the "youth" movement on D for this season. But it looks like Burns' tenure is in peril if he doesn't sit down and devise some sort of offensive scheme. You simply cannot score with only 3 men in the offensive zone, all behind the net!! Well, it wont be the first time this team cooked a coach. Offensive scheme?? How can you reshape & get offense out of the group we've got. Burns' position in peril?? get a grip, Who on this team is going to provide scoring besides elias?? Friesen?? Gomer? raffi?? Ever think maybe marty was faulted on a goal or 2 here lately?? I think we'll be fine, but I think we need help. Igor was a bust We also need to remember stevens may be finished. vince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrisjoe Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 devils dont make big trades usually a marshall type player for a draft pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Mogilny was a big trade. Friesen was a big trade. Gilmour was a big trade. But the most successful trades have been the little ones. Broten. Some say Malakhov (I'm not one of them). Marshall had 6 goals in the playoffs last year.... plus the nifty pass to Friesen. Lou was trying to land the big fish last year, but ran out of time. I think it was Gomez and Tvo for Selanne, but Teemu nixed it. Thanks, Teemu!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weekes Head Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 That Nieu/Langs for Arnott/McKay was a big one too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Richer for Muller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrisjoe Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 those are small, im talking a jagr type player, a BIG trade, those arent big name players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weekes Head Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 those are small, im talking a jagr type player, a BIG trade, those arent big name players You do realize this is the New Jersey Devils, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrisjoe Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 my point exactly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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