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  1. If this was Bush every liberal would be freaking out by the violation of due process and every conservative would be praising his name in the name of safety.

    The hypocrisy continues to become more and more deafening.

    Anyway as for the subject, either we are a country that is ok with killing suspected terrorists or we aren't. I don't think it shouldn't matter what piece of land you happened to be lucky enough to be born on. WRT "rights", If it's ok to waterboard KSM, if it's ok to raid pakistan to get Bin Laden, then it's ok to to drop a bomb on this guy.

    What hypocrisy are you referring to exactly? From what I've been seeing and reading conservatives have been giving Obama a lot of credit for this kind of aggressive anti-terror policy and supported this assassination. It has been the American Criminal Liberties Union and the Ron Paul isolationist nut jobs that have opposed it.

    As a conservative Republican I back the Obama administration on this 100%. One of the few times I could say that about an issue.

  2. I listed 4 reasons why I feel we shouldn't use water boarding, you cant isolate one of them and then say that's the crux of the argument. there are other factors that are in play here, 3 others of which I listed at the time.

    Which is why I said, "If they think waterboarding is useful in some situation, let them make that call.", implying that they are smart enough to also judge if it undermines their ability to do their job, leads to misinformation, and puts troops at risk.

    You stated pretty succinctly that interrogators asserted all four of your points a, b, c, and d, to which I responded to let them judge all of those and make the decision themselves.

  3. Why not let them use the thumb-screw if they think it's useful?

    FWIW, while I don't think waterboarding is something we should be proud of, or should brag about, screams of war crimes and the like get a huge yawn from me. So far as I can tell, the practice was authorized on three or four people, all of whom are guilty (spare me the presumption of innocence screed here), all had useful information of some sort, and all of them deserved what they got (and probably deserved a lot worse). It's one thing to do that sort of thing to a uniformed soldier of any army or your ordinary foot soldier type (to the extent that al Qaeda has any). It just helps to have a little bit of perspective and look specifically at what interrogation techniques were used and who they were used against.

    I was only responding to the point that interrogators themselves realize that waterboarding doesn't work. If we are basing our decision to use waterboarding on whether or not it works, we should let those who are experts on the matter decide instead of having some know-nothing politician make the policy.

    The debate on whether or not waterboarding is torture is a different issue.

  4. Yes, being against water boarding is the same as wanting to have them over for dinner. Make a bigger hyperbole please :rolleyes:

    When actual interrogators are telling you that

    a) they don't need it

    b) undermines there ability to do their job and

    c) leads to misleading information that wastes time and resources and

    d) as McCain points out, could be used against our soldiers in future war

    I just can't support it, wheres the benefit? I see only negatives.

    That's all a big aside from the main point though. You said earlier that it is because of water boarding that we got Osama, and that couldn't be further from the truth. We can extract justice and revenge in the world without lowering ourselves to their level.

    Just to play devil's advocate, if actual interrogators are telling us that, then why not allow them to make the decision themselves? We should let those who know how to do their jobs do it themselves. If they think waterboarding is useful in some situation, let them make that call. If they don't think it's useful in any given situation, they won't use it.

  5. The issue isn't really whether bad things that Muslims do is provided for in the Koran. No one can really dispute that the Bible (and probably most religious books that were written millenia ago) commands its adherents to do things we consider immoral or just plain crazy by today's standards. (You could probably count the number of Christians who believe you can cure leperacy according to Leviticus on one hand). Really what's going on, and which has always been the case, is that backward cultures are more prone to use a particular holy book to justify the sorts of barbarism you see in countries like Iran and Pakistan. In the US, there are a lot of people who take, or at least say they take, the Bible literally (world is only a few thousand years old and was created in six days, apostates are going to hell, there was a burning bush). But these days you don't see the governments of predominantly Christian countries executing apostates (that's probably somewhere in the Bible and certainly happened a few centuries ago in Europe) or stoning adulterers. The undeniable fact is, is that that sort of stuff does happen in Muslim countries and with the approval of a significant percentage of the population, and is actually legally proscribed. (In Pakistan there were mass demonstrations demanding the release of an assasin who killed a politician because he merely suggested that women ought to be treated better).

    And as an aside, it's really intellectually lazy to blame the world's atrocities on religion as such. Communism is an expressly atheistic ideology, but its adherents killed tens of millions just fine. And while the Nazis tolerated religion, and sometimes would attempt to co-opt it, as an ideology it was based on a bizarre pseudoscience and was otherwise irreligious.

    ADDENDUM: And as to the whole "it's only a small minority of them" point, the fact remains is that whatever percentage it might be, it's large enough to be causing the rest of the rest of the world a giant headache. The worst you can say about Christian fundamentalists is that they want to teach pseudoscience as science in school districts where most of the people believe that stuff anyway. On the other hand, there doesn't seem to be a shortage of folks who want to suicide bomb churches and synagogues.

    This.

    You simply don't see these kinds of death tolls from Christian extremists who are killing people in the name of god. There can be no moral equivalency made here. We are not looking at who has caused more bloodshed in history, nor are we comparing Muslim murder now to Christian murder in the 1200s. We are looking at the current present danger to civilized society. Like Daniel said, it's the radical muslims who are blowing up churches and synagogues. The worst that the Christian fundamentalists want is to remove evolution from the school curriculum.

  6. For the drama queens in all of us... not sure where the notion of large amounts of radiation came from....

    Every two minutes, airplane passengers flying at 30,000 feet receive 10 millirems of radiation, says the McLean, Va.-based Health Physics Society.

    A rem - which stands for Roentgen Equivalent Man - is a unit of measure for studying radiation dosage in human tissues.

    The radiation exposure level from one type of airport scanner, at 3 millirems, is less than one-third of the radiation delivered by just two minutes of flying. The other scanner type gives off no radiation energy.

    While a CT scan of the head would deliver 200,000 microrems of radiation, doctors frequently believe the risk of using them is greatly outweighed by the benefit. Similarly, a chest X-ray delivers 10,000 microrems.

    http://www.redlandsdailyfacts.com/sanbernardinocounty/ci_16729193

  7. Just a pointless video:

    Most people have probably heard the term "Keynesian" at most once in their life in a basic economics course in high school X number of years ago. This is no different then when the Man Show convinced dozens of women to sign a petition to "end womens suffrage". It's funny but ultimately proves nothing other than you can trick people by being clever with words.

    As a current senior in high school, I can tell you that had I not become interested in politics as early as 8th grade, I would have less than a flying fvck's idea of what a Keynesian is.

    Furthermore, I'd be willing to wager that I'm around one of at maximum eight in my class that might know what it is. This is out of a class of just about 600 students.

    Just giving your claim a little perspective, although I might also be giving claim as to why the public school system sucks

  8. You'll find that every Western European country is ahead of the United States which makes total sense. But here are some countries that don't Colombia, Morocco, Dominica, Costa Rica, Cyprus, and Chile.

    http://www.who.int/healthinfo/paper30.pdf

    International comparisons are few and far between. Such analysis is rare - but not unknown. The WHO' World Health Report 2000, for example, ranks the performance of the health systems of several nations. For proponents of a single payer plan, the WHO is the smoking gun, definitive proof that American health care just doesn't measure up.

    What does the WHO find? "In terms of total results, the U.S. health care system ranks 37th in the world, as measured by the WHO, the worst performance of any affluent democratic nation." [13] So writes Dr. Rudolph Mueller, a New York physician, in his book calling for government-run health care. Dr. Mueller considers the WHO finding so revealing that he mentions it on page two.

    The WHO study may make for good speaking points, but the work is anything but definitive. Indeed, like a book review written by a biased reviewer, the WHO report says more about those drafting the study than the health care systems that they analyze.

    Consider that according to this study, the United States has some of the best doctors and nurses in the world, but has a health care system that ranks behind those of Columbia, Oman, Morocco, Cyprus, Andorra, Malta, and the United Arab Emirates. Now, it would seem that in a proper comparative study, the better systems (that is, say, Columbia rather than the United States) actually boasts the best care. In other words, looking at the WHO report, if your daughter develops a cough late at night, you'd rather take her to a hospital in Bogota or Medellin than in Boston or Memphis.

    But before packing up your daughter for the long plane ride to South America, remember that the WHO criteria are soft - and ideological. Nations are marked down for having private medicine or user fees. Fairness - that is, everyone gets the same treatment regardless of income - is important. Competition, WHO officials believe, is bad since it leads to "fragmentation and duplication in health services." If the criteria aren't skewed enough, the WHO report also considers how well countries perform compared to what experts feel they ought to be doing. It's a bit like giving a gold medal to the eighth fastest runner because he has the shortest legs and tried harder.

    It is beyond the scope of this paper - or, perhaps, any paper - to attempt to produce a meaningful and comprehensive ranking of different health care systems. A couple of simple conclusions, though, can be made. First, the problem of uninsured citizens is unique to the United States. Canada, Britain, France and Germany may have shortcomings; citizens don't lack basic coverage, however. That type of predicament, however, is not seen in other western countries to the extent it is in the U.S. Second, Americans receive better care than people in any one of those countries - or any other.

    The latter point deserves some explanation. Most comparisons confuse health with health care. As a result, much attention is focused on measures like life expectancy. But a good health care system is only one part of life expectancy - indeed, it could be argued that compared to diet, exercise, and genetics, it is less important. But quality health care is all about the treatment of the sick. And looking at various studies comparing treatment-related issues, American health care comes out on top.

    http://www.freemarketcure.com/whynotgovhc.php

    The World Health Report 2000, prepared by the World Health Organization, presented perfor- mance rankings of 191 nations’ health care sys- tems. These rankings have been widely cited in public debates about health care, particularly by those interested in reforming the U.S. health care system to resemble more closely those of other countries. Michael Moore, for instance, famously stated in his film SiCKO that the United States placed only 37th in the WHO report. CNN.com, in verifying Moore’s claim, noted that France and Canada both placed in the top 10.

    Those who cite the WHO rankings typically present them as an objective measure of the rela- tive performance of national health care systems. They are not. The WHO rankings depend crucial- ly on a number of underlying assumptions— some of them logically incoherent, some charac-

    terized by substantial uncertainty, and some root- ed in ideological beliefs and values that not every- one shares.

    The analysts behind the WHO rankings express the hope that their framework “will lay the basis for a shift from ideological discourse on health policy to a more empirical one.” Yet the WHO rankings themselves have a strong ideolog- ical component. They include factors that are arguably unrelated to actual health performance, some of which could even improve in response to worse health performance. Even setting those concerns aside, the rankings are still highly sensi- tive to both measurement error and assumptions about the relative importance of the components. And finally, the WHO rankings reflect implicit value judgments and lifestyle preferences that dif- fer among individuals and across countries.

    http://www.cato.org/pubs/bp/bp101.pdf

  9. Yea you can disable it, if you go to gameplay settings and then passing settings, you can turn off manual passing. I like having not every pass be the same speed so I left it on, but increased pass speed, so you can still get off a good headman pass without having to hold down the puck forever. I also fixed pass reception because there are way too many passes that the receiver botches that no NHL player should botch. Unfortunately you can't do anything about the settings when you play online though.

    Not bad then.

    I'll probably get around to buying it around January or so.

  10. Yea they let you control the speed of the passes by how long you hold it down. On one hand it's more realistic that not every pass is the exact same speed, but on the other it's unrealistic that faster passes take a longer time to let go.

    Have you found any menu settings to disable it?

  11. Anybody else here use classic control layout? When I was playing the demo, I absolutely hated how they made you hold down "A" so that the pass is actually fast enough to get through. Is that the same in the full game? If that's unchangeable then I'm not sure I'm gonna buy it.

  12. I could be wrong but it was my understanding that the Islanders aren't really in a position where they need to squeeze guys out to comply with the cap.

    You'd be right.. The decision to get rid of Park was just a matter of making room for younger guys shooting for a spot on the NHL roster. Why should Richard Park take the spot that Nino Niederreiter (5th overall this year) could take?

  13. Fox "News" ratings are basically the results of older, white, bitter, uneducated adults (typically 65+ years of age) who have nothing better to do than whine and blame everyone else for their unhappiness. Fox "News" always them to "rationalize" their unhappiness.

    Except, y'know, for the fact that Fox News dominates the ratings among all demographics, and your post is pretty much moronic.

    fvckin' disgusting. But I bet some people on this board will find a reason to give the slasher a pass. They will probably come out and call him a "true american hero!".

    Correct. That's exactly what I was thinking. Nice job. :rolleyes:

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