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  2. mfitz804

    GDT: New Jersey Hischiers vs. Philthadelphia Patricks, 7:00 PM

    Let’s Fill-adelphia the net with goals. LGD
  3. NJDevils1214

    2018-19 Around the League Thread

    LOL...Wayne Gretzky....14GP....
  4. Devilsfan118

    2018-19 Around the League Thread

    So in other news, several writers from "The Hockey News" compared Pettersson to Gretzky. They essentially said (not an exact quote): If you took Pettersson and put him back in Gretzky's place, he'd put up the same numbers as the Great One. And they wonder why their publication is dying.
  5. DevsMan84

    2018-19 Around the League Thread

    I think I remember that Sather himself stated that he believed that Gomez would be a 100-point player if he wasn't playing the Devils system.
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  7. Colorado Rockies 1976

    2018-19 Around the League Thread

    Sather fell into the never-ending GM trap of paying a good free agent like a superstar, then expecting superstar returns. My only issue with Gomez is that he was right there with Sather when Sather was pulling his "The Devils didn't use him properly" crap...I remember too many idiot Ranger fans (yes, that's redundant for sure) claiming that Gomer would have 100-assist seasons with the Rangers. Very quickly, Gomez's Ranger production was suddenly "not good enough", when it was really exactly what the Rangers should have expected...wow, so a guy who's only getting older couldn't wildly surpass what'd he done for the balance of his career? He could only maintain? Wasn't really a shock to anyone outside of dumb Ranger fans and Sather. But yeah, that's the problem with completely irresponsible overpayments for merely good players...and of course, it gets even worse once the decline years kick in...even worse for Gomer, he started fading right around the halfway point of his seven-year deal. I've always had two theories as to why his decline came as quickly as it did, despite the fact that he wasn't really that old at the time: 1) I never got the impression he was that hard of a worker...I think he coasted off his talent for many years, and 2) I documented this in a post, but between not missing many games and being a part of three deep Devils playoff runs, he had played in a sh!load of NHL games for a 30-year-old...he played in 881 games as a Devil (10 seasons, regular season + playoffs) and also played 61 games with the Alaskan Aces during the lockout. So he had a lot of miles on the odometer for someone his age.
  8. DevsMan84

    GDT: New Jersey Hischiers vs. Philthadelphia Patricks, 7:00 PM

    Sucks Hischier is out, but I thought Zajac looked pretty good on the top line the other day.
  9. DevsMan84

    GDT: Finally Back Home, Penguins @ Devils, 7:00 pm

    I rarely know what's going on anymore. I just keep staring outside right now to see if there is enough snow falling where I can go home early and not get the riot act from my boss.
  10. Kinkyisth3b3st

    GDT: Finally Back Home, Penguins @ Devils, 7:00 pm

    My sarcasm detector is usually much better. Seems like DM84 was also bamboozled No, I don’t think we’ll see a fleece like that ever again. But I try to remember the same names who want Zacha traded or cut at his lowest possible value said the same thing about Larsson.
  11. DevsMan84

    GDT: Finally Back Home, Penguins @ Devils, 7:00 pm

    Well the other half of the equation you are missing is how fvcking dumb Chia is. Yeah it was need for need so it wasn't quite the beating them by a country mile sort of victory, but it was very clear we got the better player from the get-go. Is there any GM out there willing to take on Zacha even if he grows into at least a serviceable player for a player of Hall's caliber? I'm not sure. The Hall for Larsson trade might be once in a blue moon fleece-jobs.
  12. Devil Dan 56

    GDT: Finally Back Home, Penguins @ Devils, 7:00 pm

    Why you no like-ah the sarcasm?? 😢
  13. Kinkyisth3b3st

    GDT: Finally Back Home, Penguins @ Devils, 7:00 pm

    You say this board is full of every excuse in the world. I say that 80% of this board was ready to trade 21-year-old Larsson for, quoting, “a bag of pucks”. Maybe not you, specifically, but you and I both know that the consensus (by a wide margin) was that Larsson was a total bust. And then he grew his game into a solid defenseman that we traded for the face of the fvcking franchise.
  14. Kinkyisth3b3st

    GDT: Finally Back Home, Penguins @ Devils, 7:00 pm

    Lmfao this is the dumbest comment I’ve ever read and I’m surprised because you’re one of the smartest people on the forum. What was he supposed to do? “Nah I might not be physically ready yet and oh man there’s this kid who’s lighting it up, you should take him instead”.
  15. NJDevils1214

    GDT: New Jersey Hischiers vs. Philthadelphia Patricks, 7:00 PM

    F
  16. DevsMan84

    GDT: Finally Back Home, Penguins @ Devils, 7:00 pm

    This is strawman. We know Zacha didn't choose his draft spot. Whether he was 6th or 16th he would still be considered disappointing and the age excuse is evaporating. I remember the age excuse being thrown around plenty on this forum with JJ and other busts in the past. This board is full of every excuse in the book. I want Zacha to prove me wrong, but he isn't exactly doing it.
  17. DevsMan84

    GDT: Finally Back Home, Penguins @ Devils, 7:00 pm

    Larsson was looked at to defend, which is what he did fairly well. Zacha wasn't chosen at 6 overall with the idea of him being a PK specialist. Also, players chosen in the same draft are the same age and they are producing and they do not have to resort to the age excuse. Are we going to use the age excuse year after year? Are we going to get a 3rd training camp where Zacha will come in saying how much he improved and trained in the offseason and then show zip improvement?
  18. Devil Dan 56

    GDT: Finally Back Home, Penguins @ Devils, 7:00 pm

    Well Zacha should have thought of that before he got drafted 6th overall and specifically told the Devils to draft him instead of Barzal
  19. DJ Eco

    2018-19 Around the League Thread

    It's really all about the money as far as the Gomez situation is concerned. Imagine the Devils giving someone McDavid or Tavares money in 2018 and he's *only* getting 40-50 points a season. Even if he's playing well, that's just a bad deal financially, unless he's getting 80+ points on some superman sh!t like the other few players that justify that kind of money with their contracts. A certain fairly large segment of Devils fans had Kovalchuk on their sh!t list because we gave him $6.67m and he *only* (sarcastic) scored at a 0.91 pts./game clip during his time here. And we got him in 2009, imagine in 2007 handing Gomez $7.36m/year for 7 years; that was a crazy amount then (still is) and under a much lower cap. He must have known things were going to get ugly at some point in New York (and later Montreal), but no one's going to say no to that kind of money for being a very solid (but not generational elite) player.
  20. Kinkyisth3b3st

    GDT: Finally Back Home, Penguins @ Devils, 7:00 pm

    The age excuse shouldn’t get stale when he’s still so young and a large portion of his game is being big and physical. At what age did you give up on Larsson? Asking for a friend.
  21. DevsMan84

    GDT: Finally Back Home, Penguins @ Devils, 7:00 pm

    No, but the age excuse is going to get more and more stale with each passing year. It is his 3rd full season as a pro. He has over 150 NHL games under his belt. He is not a rookie and is not green. The excuses have to stop and he needs to finally put up or shut up.
  22. Kinkyisth3b3st

    GDT: Finally Back Home, Penguins @ Devils, 7:00 pm

    Travis Zajac broke into the league in his age 22/23 season. Pavel Zacha is in his age 21/22 season. are you blaming Zacha for playing in the NHL a few years before he was ready?
  23. Lateralous

    GDT: New Jersey Hischiers vs. Philthadelphia Patricks, 7:00 PM

    New Jersey Zachas vs Philadelphia Provorovs...oh wait. LGD!!
  24. DevsMan84

    GDT: New Jersey Hischiers vs. Philthadelphia Patricks, 7:00 PM

    Devils 8-1
  25. DJ Eco

    2018-19 Prospects Thread

    Right there with you, fella.. I've got a Tedenby jersey AND a Tedenby juniors Sweden jersey. Wish I could have those $400 or so back; no other way to view it besides a complete waste of money lol.
  26. Colorado Rockies 1976

    2018-19 Around the League Thread

    Nieds wouldn't have ever signed with another Metro team because there was no Metro back then. I really hate when people who clearly weren't watching the game completely garble history. Gomez's Ranger numbers and his first season in Montreal were EXACTLY in line with his Devils seasons...you can look it up (but since you probably won't, he put up 187 points in 236 GP...about 65 points per 82 GP; before that (his first seven NHL seasons), he averaged 67 points per 82 GP. After those three "about what you should have expected" seasons from Gomez after he left NJ, his numbers fell off sharply. That crazy goal-less stretch came in his fourth season after signing his mega-deal, and stretched into Year 5. So no, he didn't start to become a "complete shell" of himself until about 3.5 seasons after he first went to the Rangers. But keep getting everything wrong.
  27. vadvlfan

    2018-19 Around the League Thread

    If I remember right, Lou wasn't going to pay Martin or Brian Gionta what they could get on open market. Lou's attitude was, you look good here because you're on a good team. And when they returned to Devils home games, they got booed. Both became very serviceable players & weren't overpaid until latter years of the contracts, like most other players.
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