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So Mark Fayne was released from his PTO with the Bruins & Beau Bennett was released from his KHL team (Minsk) after 5 games...
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New York Mets 2018 season thread
Colorado Rockies 1976 replied to NJDevs4978's topic in The Locker Room
Yet another underwhelming evening from "Thor". Not like we haven't seen our share of that in 2018. - Yesterday
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I love that it has the Lindros hit on the Stevens ad lol
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My post was premised on the $2.5m number. Like I said, he could be asking for Palmieri money, which is top 2 line pay. So you were really agreeing with me.
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This. I was trying to say the bolded in my post too. A no-move clause would be a very weird thing to be asking for at this age. I could see that falling under philosophical differences if either A) Shero doesn't offer no-movements or B.) He believes that no-moves should be players at a certain age or something. That's a good guess.
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On average, everyone thinks they are worth more than what they actually produce. Given Wood's numbers this past year, he simply has a lot of bullet points that I'm sure he and his agent sat down and went through what to present to Shero. He has a lot of talking points and I never knew that Shero was much of a stickler in this regard. I give Shero props. My guess is that he knows where he sees various players fit and maybe he doesn't see Wood as a top 6 goal scoring sniper and sees more of a top 9 speedster. You don't pay the top 9 speedy player Palmieri money. Maybe Shero says that he can't promise ice-time and because he can't promise ice-time, he can't gauge or see the worth in paying Wood Palmieri style money. Palmieri is a steal for his skillset and we're lucky he didn't cost us more. Wood has to understand that he's behind a number of players on the left side. Just to name all of them, Hall, Johansson, Bratt. Bratt plays the right but he's doing that out of lack of RWs. The RW depth is Palmieri, Noesen, (Lappin). We already have a good deal of left-handed shots. And all of that isn't to mention what Wood's value on the trade market is, which is likely sh!te. He's not Filip Forsberg.
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Regardless of what the actual reason is to me. He's overpaying his hand. Somebody who's familiar with the analytics wanna way in on Woods production the last two years?
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Yes I do. However, he is most likely asking for top 2 line pay. I really do not believe that this hold up is over a couple hundred thousand. I do think they are probably about a million dollars a year apart give or take 100K. He realistically should be getting $2M. That is a fair price.
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Doing that and scoring 19 goals is basically exactly what you want out of a 3rd/4th liner like Wood. Isn't it?
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New York Mets 2018 season thread
Colorado Rockies 1976 replied to NJDevs4978's topic in The Locker Room
Speaking of pitchers, this is interesting...looks like the BBWAA (not exactly the most "with it" bunch sometimes) recognizes that wins and losses will never be the best measure of how a starting pitcher is doing: https://metsmerizedonline.com/2018/09/degrom-wins-cy-young-with-ease-in-new-bbwaa-poll.html/\ Also nice to see that they're not confusing a Cy Young with a pitcher MVP, which many voters seem to do. It's supposed to go to the best pitcher. You can make a case for Scherzer, but deGrom simply gives up considerably less runs (especially dingers), and most games is pitching with zero support. Think deGrom is the guy. -
Reinhart just signed for 2 years at 3.5 per and he was a 50 point guy last season (25G-25A). I think 2 at 2.5 is a fair offer for Wood, who had 19 goals. However, my feeling is that he is looking for much more than that. If the difference was only a few hundred grand, I doubt it holds up the signing.
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New York Mets 2018 season thread
Colorado Rockies 1976 replied to NJDevs4978's topic in The Locker Room
It's deals like that that REALLY want to make me strangle Sandy...who the fvck was he bidding against? Who else was signing Vargas to two years, off such an awful second half? I could've understood taking a one-year flyer, but man it still feels like Sandy was outright trying to fvck the Wilpons. His offseason was that bad. -
New York Mets 2018 season thread
Colorado Rockies 1976 replied to NJDevs4978's topic in The Locker Room
Yeah, had a feeling that was coming. Something kind of annoying about it (there's NO evidence to suggest that the babying prevents injuries in the slightest), but it is what it is. Hell of a second half for Wheeler. Didn't think he ever had that in him. Could've done without seeing Corey Oswalt take his spot though...he's had some decent starts, but there's nothing about that guy that excites anyone. -
Wheeler has been shut down for the season.
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I think you guys are chasing a red herring re: ice time. How do you quantify that or put pen to paper on that at this stage of negotiations? I'd imagine Shero having little say in how Hynes wants to run the team. Not sure what leverage a player would have in jamming that in during contract negotiations, and could be seen as undermining from Hynes' perspective. "Philosophical" could mean he wants more years or it could mean certain performance bonuses on top of a currently-fair base salary that is a slippery slope Shero doesn't want to go down. It could also be a no-move clause?
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Holding out for ice time is worse than money. It's like a disgruntled parent yelling at the coach to play their kid more. Earn your ice time, and your money, though your play.
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From what I recall his underlying stats are actually good. If it’s a difference around $500k then let the kid have it and demand he doesn’t let you down.
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Not sure I remember anybody ever negotiating more ice time especially when they were a RFA with little to no leverage to begin with.. Imo if that's what he's trying to do he's making a huge mistake. Get on the ice and earn your ice time. If I remember right his underlying stats are junk. Either way it's not a good look.
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He also played soft minutes and largely against the oppositions weakest lines.
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Eh. Not a great look if that's what it is. I feel like you show up at camp and earn ice time.
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First post in this thread in 3.5 years. I figured it was time. Here is the upcoming fall schedule of Devils signings coming to Sports Minded Unlimited in Warren, NJ.
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Caught that on Reddit last night. Almost pissed myself laughing. I feel bad for Sens fans.
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I'd give it to him. I'd give it to him. 19 goals, under 13 mins a game averaged in 76 games. The guy was 4th on our team in goals, one behind our #1 draft pick who played first line minutes with the league MVP. And the #5 guy(s) were not even close at 13. No question that should be worth $2.5M. But I think he's probably asking for more. Maybe he's asking for the deal Kyle Palmieri got with an AAV of $4,650,000. I can't believe that he is holding out over $500k, that just can't be right.
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Poor Ottawa, lmfao... https://streamable.com/6as08
