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Fire Hynes
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That classic coach's loss where the starting goalie leaves due to injury.
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The Devils just went through a season where they had a 19 year old from Sweden who had not played in a long professional season before. Jesper Bratt was basically done by the All-Star break in 2017-18 - he was totally ineffective down the stretch run. The idea of load management for Boqvist - letting him ease into the NHL, even though he is almost certainly better than some of the players they are dressing now - is a good one. He's 20 and he's used to playing an SHL schedule - 51 games last season with much lighter travel than the NHL.
He will get his games.
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The Devils expected Smith to win a spot in training camp. They didn't not keep him in order to protect Rooney and Hayden - they wanted him to win a spot and if he had, one of those guys would've been waived. The fact that Friedman's now reporting that the Devils want to trade for a defenseman means they expected Smith to win a spot in camp and he didn't. The fact that the Devils were able to reverse their expectations once Smith didn't do the things necessary is a sign of good management - bad management would've just stuck with the prior assumption and hoped he would work his way out of the troubles he was having - bad management hopes things are true because they want them to be true.
They also get the added benefit of not starting Ty Smith's contract this year, something which will help them in 2022-23 if Smith is even a decent NHLer.
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1 hour ago, CommonDreads said:
I'm so annoyed that Rooney is going to be in this lineup to start the year. He did nothing to earn a roster spot and it's going to come at the expense of likely Smith.
Preseason CF: 38.67% (-8.38% Relative)
Preseason FF: 38.60% (-7.39% Relative)
Preseason SF: 37.21% (-8.97% Relative)
Preseason GF: 33.33% (-18.84% Relative)
Preseason SCF: 32.26% (-16.32% Relative)He sucks. He doesn't belong anywhere near an NHL roster.
The access to preseason numbers has really denigrated the quality of conversation about these matters - 3 or 4 preseason games means nothing. Rooney is probably a territorial drag, but his role is to sit in the press box and work real hard in practice. He shouldn't play more than 40 games, and he shouldn't play more than a few shifts above the 4th line all season long. As long as the Devils recognize what this guy is, there shouldn't be any issues.
You could try to build an NHL roster without these players but it would be tough - a 13th forward should be, almost definitionally, not a player who should be playing in the league regularly.
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54 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said:
Saw some comments on hf boards that Hughes might have gotten hurt in this game, didn't see anything confirming that though.
I saw this, it happened with about 5 minutes left; he went off favoring one side and didn't come back, but odds are it's nothing.
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So glad for preseason to be over.
Devils didn't play great but Cory did and they got some real huge chances - Columbus's only real big chance was that early breakaway from Atkinson. Devils had a 3 on 0 and another breakaway besides.
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2 minutes ago, titans04 said:
in regards to TY and others anybody else find it beyond alarming when a coach says they need to see more urgency in their games? I mean that should be the last thing that's missing for guys trying to make it at this level, no?
Lack of urgency may be the fear of making a mistake and not laziness. If you read anything at all about Smith, his commitment to the game seems pretty total.
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NHL player visas do not typically take a week or more to obtain. Otherwise we would see European players miss a week when they are traded from Canadian to American teams but that does not happen.
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1 hour ago, Devil Dan 56 said:
Yeah that's a bit ridiculous. How does that not get taken care of long before camp?
This is customary for players who are not on signed contracts.
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I don't think a lot needs to be said about Hughes, who has an incredible sense of where pucks should be going.
Simmonds and Hall both looked rusty at times. Would've been nice if Simmonds could've avoided fighting one of the Rangers' AHL crew but so be it, he made it through the game.
McLeod's goal was obviously lucky and he didn't have a great game otherwise. He does look better than last season so far, goals aside.
Jacobs didn't look like an NHL player tonight.
Blackwood looked decent, although he didn't appear to be tracking the puck great.
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Gusev is world-class at deceiving a defense/goalie about his intentions. His other skills might not all translate to the NHL, but his pass to Hischier tonight was something that only a handful of guys in this league can pull off regularly. He got me twice in the game against Boston too. Defenders will figure this out eventually but it will still give him time and space to shoot instead of pass.
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3 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:
It's older than that.
I remember going to games with a friend of my wife's (then girlfriend/fiancé), who had season tix in 225 in CAA...started going with him in 2003 or so, and he and some other people were already doing the YS...I remember being very surprised by it, because that was the first time I'd ever heard it...up until that point, it had always been "HEY!" and that was that. I don't remember exactly when it became more widespread (it definitely was NOT an overnight thing), but it was well before 2009.
McLeod doing anything would be a huge bonus...he's one of those guys that I don't really even think about anymore, as far as being a significant part of the Devils goes.
The Devils stopped using Rock n Roll Part 2 somewhere in the mid 00s decade - here's a youtube video of them using Ole in 2007:
But yeah here's the You Suck from 2006:
I didn't see many games in 2004 and Youtube wasn't around. But yeah I would've said 2008-09 as the real peak of awareness of You Suck but it did come earlier.
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You suck is not 20-25 years old, c'mon now. It's 10 years old. And it sucks. It's a tradition 'stolen' from hockey hotbed Nashville (and maybe some college teams or something).
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3 hours ago, mfitz804 said:
If that’s the case, I think they should fold.
It's a preseason hockey game. The audience for that is tiny.
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1 hour ago, mfitz804 said:
Doesn’t make any sense given there are so many MSG channels. MSG2 and MSG+ are going to be signed off with zero programming instead of showing our preseason game.
I don’t see how that makes sense.
It costs money to pay everyone involved with producing a hockey broadcast. It may be cheaper to have nothing on instead of the game.
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3 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:
Yeah, but shouldn't he have a "training camp" number then? Or does having your #1 OA wearing #86 just blow that out of the water?
He's wearing the number he will wear in Binghamton. And he might make the team if there's multiple injuries on D.
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I mean, yeah, Zacha probably doesn't finish out this contract with the Devils, but that's in part because players get traded all the time.
Looking at the 2010 draft, only 7 players are still with the team that drafted them, but I would count 21 of them as locks to make an NHL roster this coming season.
2011 has been more stable - 8 players are still with their drafting team and only 20 of them are locks to make an NHL roster.
2012: 12 picks still with their drafting team, 19 NHL locks.
You can basically see the trend - if you're not a star or even if you are, it's pretty easy for another team to value a former 1st round pick higher and want to make a deal.
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1 hour ago, Nicomo said:
Yep. We’ve seen it countless times across the league. Even with the GOAT.
Where is Hall’s gf from?
Gretzky was traded because his owner was broke. It's not clear whether he would've been dealt if he hadn't been - she made an easy scapegoat though.
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4 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:
As far as retiring Luongo’s number goes...I guess that I’m simply indifferent. I don’t feel any real passion one way or the other.
With him, his career was kinda odd. True, he definitely played on his share of bad teams, and as Chico Resch can tell you, playing on bad teams can wreak havoc on a goaltender’s numbers...but in spite of that, Luongo did manage some nice glamour numbers...plenty of very good save%s. And almost won 500 games (and played in over 1000 regular season games, which puts him in extremely rare company). Like Marty and Roy, he had an insanely long prime. Lou is obviously going to the HHoF.
But something just seems missing when it comes to him...and I’m not just talking about championships. I can’t quite put my finger on it...his career never quite felt as good to me as his numbers suggest. Like I said, not opposed to the Panthers retiring his number, but I don’t know why I’m not much more strongly in favor of it than I am. I guess I’d like to feel like DD56 and many others do, but for some reason I don’t.
Luongo played 19 seasons and got to the semifinals once. He played in the playoffs only 7 seasons. This is going to be more normal as more teams enter the league without expanding the number of teams who make the playoffs.
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35 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said:
Lol what a pathetic franchise. Roberto has a grand total of 2 playoff wins WITH Florida and only made the playoffs one time. He had 230 wins with Florida and 195 of them were meaingless(he had 35 wins in 15-16 when they made the playoffs once with him)
We should have a higher standard for player numbers getting retired and I would be ashamed if we did something like this as a franchise.
Luongo is a Hall of Fame goalie who played for a Hall of Shame franchise. He did everything he could.
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54 minutes ago, Neb00rs said:
Imagine interviewing Ray Shero for ten minutes and not asking him about Taylor Hall.
https://www.nhl.com/devils/video/nhl-tonight-ray-shero/t-277437418/c-68692603
I had wondered why he decided to break his silence with the NHL network and that's probably why. He could ask them not to ask him about Taylor Hall and they would oblige.
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3 hours ago, Devilsfan118 said:
So Butcher's arbitration hearing is coming up on Friday.. curious to see if we get a deal done beforehand.
This situation has been really quiet - not sure where either side is at the moment.
Wonder if Butcher wants term? Or just to get taken to UFA? I'm not honestly sure when he becomes UFA eligible, having only signed his ELC at 22.
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UFA in only 3 years.
These NHL reporters don't really speculate on salary/AAV stuff like this very often, so this makes me think that this is leaked from the Devils front office. I think it would be huge to get Butcher at that kind of number but I could see why he might resist - he'd be 30 when the deal is over and it might be hard to get another long-term deal after that, depending on how his career goes.
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7 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:
I did, I looked it up.
Above the 50th percentile is not “relatively high”.
In any event, if you are excited by a guy having 3 short handed points, I’m happy for you.
Above the 75th percentile, which is where Zacha was last season, is relatively high, but that was a fun goalpost switch. I mean, I know it's something I said, but then I also clarified. This discussion started with you taking issue with the article posted and claiming that 'goals' and 'assists' means he sucks. Well, when it comes to being short-handed, he doesn't suck at that.
Zacha is an excellent penalty killer both offensively and defensively. I'd bet on him having 3 or more points short handed if he gets the same amount of PK time next season. Offense on the PK being what it is - largely controlled by randomness - it's hard to expect much more.
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1 minute ago, mfitz804 said:
He had three points, the league leader had 9. A few dozen guys had equal or better scoring stats than Zacha short handed. If you consider that a "relatively high level of offense", then I guess you're right. I don't.
I'm sure you knew that the league leader had 9 before you started spouting off about what is and isn't a relatively high level of offense. 3 points shorthanded in a season is a lot. It's above the 50th percentile for sure - in points/60, it's just short of the 80th percentile. Which is ... relatively high. It's more than 75% of the forwards who killed penalties. Relatively high.
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There is absolutely no way you will hold to this. Like, why even say something so obviously false?