completely agree RD, even with your post in the beginning that we would get embarrassed...i think im a "realist", i know no game is a guarentee. dont want to ruffle feathers but i dont know that marty would have played any better whan clemmy. madden, langs, and friesen need to pick it up bottom line. gomer, gio, and patty playing well but we all know not to rely on one line...and when we do burns seems to change things up