Derek21 Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 (edited) Or as Clown would say, "Crook$." FYI... I have the real '86 Topps Traded #11 Barry Bonds XRC here and looked at the comparison carefully and noticed the differences. The biggest two were in the lighting on the front photo and the font size of Bonds' name at the bottom. If anyone was actually interested in acquiring that Bonds card, please let me know. http://www.beckett.com/news/index2.asp? Front Page Counterfeit Alert: 1986 Topps Traded Barry Bonds XRC 3/3/2005 11:11:54 AM The 1986 Topps Traded Barry Bonds XRC is the most popular Bonds card graded by BGS. With nearly 11,000 of them graded by BGS already, it is hard to believe we are just now seeing the first counterfeits of this card. This fake, while probably not able to fool the hobby veteran, may be good enough to fool a novice collector. At first glance the card shows some characteristics of the real card, such as the centering being slightly off both top to bottom and left to right. The imposter is printed on a thicker card stock than the original, and has a weight of 1.70 grams compared to a weight of 1.42 grams on the real card. When comparing the edges of both cards, looking straight down on the edge, the fake has a bright white stock compared to the off white, almost yellowed color of the real card. The fake also has a smooth edge with no visible striations compared to the choppier edge of the real card. Some signs to look for on the front of the counterfeit include the font of the "Topps" logo in the upper right corner being noticeably smaller than the font on the genuine card. The trademark "R", located just above the word Topps, touches the "S" in Topps on the fake, while there is a noticeable space between them on the real card. Also on the front, the font size of the name "Barry Bonds", at the bottom of the card, is visibly smaller on the fake than the genuine card. The overall fuzziness of the photo of the fake compared to the real card is another sign to look for. A good place to look to help spot the counterfeit is in the blue sky background just to the left of Barry Bonds head. On the real card the sky is made up of blue and white print dots, while on the fake the background has blue, white, red and black print dots. The fake is easy to spot if you look in this area using a 10x loupe. The back of this counterfeit is very well done, with the dark pink color on the counterfeit looking very close to that of the genuine card. If you are not sure what to look for, you could be fooled by this fake. One sign giving away the counterfeit is the bright white look of the white card stock on the back, which looks almost bleached. The real card has more of an off white color as opposed to the white card stock on the back. You will notice the card number "11T" has a diamond shaped box around it. On the real card, the corners of this diamond are rounded, while on the fake they come to a point. The diamond around the "Topps" logo on the back shares this same characteristic. Also, the font size of the card number "11T" is noticeably thinner on the fake than on the real card. One last sign on the back to help spot the counterfeit is to look on the back inside the white box which says "Talkin' Baseball". On each of the four corners in this box, there is a black line located just inside the corners. On the real card the lines are straight, while on the counterfeit card the lines are rounded. With Barry Bonds about to pass Babe Ruth's home run mark this season, and his sights set clearly on Hank Aaron's home run record, his 1986 Topps Traded card is sure to be more popular than ever. If you are in the market for one, be sure you know what to look for to make sure you are getting the real deal. Edited March 4, 2005 by Derek21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 How do you tell a Gretzky counterfeit from a real? Cause I got two of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek21 Posted March 4, 2005 Author Share Posted March 4, 2005 Man, I wonder if Beckett would know. Of course, you could always take it to a local card shop. That's if you trusted them. A good idea is probably to get your cards graded by Beckett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTCB Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 I agree with Derek21, you could get them graded by beckett or find a local card dealer and have them take a look for you (just make sure you can trust the person) Don, are your Gretzky rookie cards OPC??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 I agree with Derek21, you could get them graded by beckett or find a local card dealer and have them take a look for you (just make sure you can trust the person)Don, are your Gretzky rookie cards OPC??? Well, it just costs too much to have the cards graded by Beckett. You have to mail them to Dallas or something silly like that. Yeah, they are both OPC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek21 Posted March 4, 2005 Author Share Posted March 4, 2005 Wow, man. I wish I had one. That also is a beautiful card in its quality if that makes any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 (edited) There's a sureshot way to tell the Bonds fake from a real one, look at the size of his head, if it's as big as it is now it's a fake Though he apparently said it was just as big then as it is now in an interview with Pedro Gomez today on ESPN, what does he think everyone's the dumbest person in America? Edited March 5, 2005 by Hasan4978 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek21 Posted March 5, 2005 Author Share Posted March 5, 2005 That's pretty sad. I appreciate the kind of player Bonds is. But god. And he wants to know why people don't like him :shakeshead:. Btw... on the back of the card, as a 20-year-old, he's listed at 6-1 185. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTCB Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Yeah, they are both OPC. Don, here is a link to a 2 different kinds of counterfit Gretzky's, hope this info helps. If I were you, I wouldnt grade them either, enjoy having 2 of the greatest hockey cards ever made. Gretzky Counterfit Type II Gretzky Counterfit Type III Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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