nmigliore Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I hope Beckham stays in Milan, he can play some seriouse football, and prolong his England Career. He is still extremley effective from the bench to turn an international game around with a great free kick and set piece. I agree, it benefits my Euro team (Milan) and my American team (RBNY) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaira_Devil_#9 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I agree, it benefits my Euro team (Milan) and my American team (RBNY) Galaxy are looking at 15 million for milan to bring him to italy permanently. To much, but they will need to gain something out of him going there. Beckham was foolish in thinking going to Galaxy would mean he would still get an England place and should have signed for Milan when they were initially interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmigliore Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Galaxy are looking at 15 million for milan to bring him to italy permanently.To much, but they will need to gain something out of him going there. Beckham was foolish in thinking going to Galaxy would mean he would still get an England place and should have signed for Milan when they were initially interested. the funniest part is that Beckham did not make MLS any more popular nor did he help out that Galaxy much.. and honestly, with Landon Donovan AND Beckham they should be at least in the MLS playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaira_Devil_#9 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 the funniest part is that Beckham did not make MLS any more popular nor did he help out that Galaxy much.. and honestly, with Landon Donovan AND Beckham they should be at least in the MLS playoffs He only sucseeded in making the LA galaxy more popular. Anyway back to the red bulls, do you still have to endure the joke of a footballer who is JP Angel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmigliore Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 He only sucseeded in making the LA galaxy more popular.Anyway back to the red bulls, do you still have to endure the joke of a footballer who is JP Angel JP Angel in the MLS is like Ovechkin of the NHL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diablo Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 the funniest part is that Beckham did not make MLS any more popular nor did he help out that Galaxy much.. and honestly, with Landon Donovan AND Beckham they should be at least in the MLS playoffs Id argue w/ that .. please look at the $$ in sales and attendance figures of the Galaxy -- home AND away on the other hand they lost a golden opportunity to bring them much greater popularity and cash by making the playoffs and showcasing Beckham in the Finals... same on them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmigliore Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 (edited) Id argue w/ that .. please look at the $$ in sales and attendance figures of the Galaxy -- home AND away lol - he made the Galaxy more popular. Not the MLS. He was supposed to make the league more popular not the team (making the team more popular was a given). In fact LA already had a good star in Donovan. Check around the MLS at attendance figures; the only team that really improved was the Galaxy (duh since they got Beckham).. Its not like those people went to the game wanted to see a good MLS game, they just wanted to see David Beckham do nothing and take his shirt off at the end Team Avg. attend. % change Los Angeles Galaxy 26,009 7.20% Toronto FC 20,108 -0.10% D.C. United 19,835 -5.40% New England Revolution 17,580 5.00% Chicago Fire 17,034 3.30% Houston Dynamo 16,939 6.60% Real Salt Lake 16,179 1.40% New York Red Bulls 15,928 -3.60% Chivas USA 15,114 5.70% Columbus Crew 14,622 -4.00% San Jose Earthquakes 13,713 N/A Colorado Rapids 13,659 -7.40% FC Dallas 13,024 -14.00% Kansas City Wizards* 10,686 -7.80% Totals 16,459 -1.80% ^ http://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/article/60481, so the league averaged a drop in attendance in 2008. Obviously the only team with a big attendance gain was LA.. Now in 2009 just watch the Galaxy attendance figures go down now if he does move to Milan permanently. (Especially now that Donovan is gone too! Man, sucks for them) Edited February 9, 2009 by nmigliore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaira_Devil_#9 Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 JP Angel in the MLS is like Ovechkin of the NHL WOW that really is worrying. The guy was beyond hopeless for Aston Villa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diablo Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 lol - he made the Galaxy more popular. Not the MLS. He was supposed to make the league more popular not the team (making the team more popular was a given). In fact LA already had a good star in Donovan. Check around the MLS at attendance figures; the only team that really improved was the Galaxy (duh since they got Beckham).. Its not like those people went to the game wanted to see a good MLS game, they just wanted to see David Beckham do nothing and take his shirt off at the endTeam Avg. attend. % change Los Angeles Galaxy 26,009 7.20% Toronto FC 20,108 -0.10% D.C. United 19,835 -5.40% New England Revolution 17,580 5.00% Chicago Fire 17,034 3.30% Houston Dynamo 16,939 6.60% Real Salt Lake 16,179 1.40% New York Red Bulls 15,928 -3.60% Chivas USA 15,114 5.70% Columbus Crew 14,622 -4.00% San Jose Earthquakes 13,713 N/A Colorado Rapids 13,659 -7.40% FC Dallas 13,024 -14.00% Kansas City Wizards* 10,686 -7.80% Totals 16,459 -1.80% ^ http://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/article/60481, so the league averaged a drop in attendance in 2008. Obviously the only team with a big attendance gain was LA.. Now in 2009 just watch the Galaxy attendance figures go down now if he does move to Milan permanently. (Especially now that Donovan is gone too! Man, sucks for them) Excellent research -- did you get the attendances when Beckham visited the opponent? Im just saying where ever he went people wanted to see him play.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmigliore Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 (edited) Excellent research -- did you get the attendances when Beckham visited the opponent? Im just saying where ever he went people wanted to see him play.. Nah but Im pretty sure it was higher than usual attendance.. Me, being a NYRB fan, witnessed LA vs NY at Giants Stadium in 2007 and they PACKED the stadium to see Beckham.. It was a thrilling game too.. I'd take an educated guess that the road attendance was high in 2007 for LA but dropped in 2008 once everyone got over the fact Beckham is playing American soccer. I could be wrong though, but from that article the whole average of attendances did drop from 2007 to 2008, which really doesn't surprise me considering the only reason it was higher than usual in 2007 was because of Beckham's arrival. I believe if Beckham were to stay with LA for 2009, I'd expect the attendance to be similar to 2008 with another small step down in attendance. Hes also not really a big scoring threat in MLS, except on some free kicks obviously, I would think that got some people a bit mad.. or i shouldnt say it got them "mad", but i mean like they probably thought he would score more and be an ELITE MLS goal scorer, but he didn't edit: here's the TV stuff from 2007 and 2008 seasons (telecasts on ESPN2), same article as previously posted - 2008: 26 telecasts, 0.2 rating, 253k viewers 2007: 25 telecasts, 0.2 rating, 289k viewers 2006: 21 telecasts, 0.2 rating, 263k viewers ^ So while the ratings never changed, the viewers dropped.. Even with 1 more full telecast they didn't surpass their 2007 number of viewers.. Hell even the pre-Beckham (2006) number of viewers was better than 2008, and that was with 5 less telecasts! Now Im too lazy to actually check how many times the Galaxy played on these telecasts, but I'd assume they played quite alot in 2007 and 2008 on ESPN2 to showcase Beckham in hope of boosting the ratings and viewers. Edited February 10, 2009 by nmigliore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diablo Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I stand by my original statement- MLS is better off with Beckham than without - I did go to the LA vs RB game in both 2007 and 2008 -- the first game was packed -- the second not (but Donovan did score in extra time) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmigliore Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 (edited) I stand by my original statement- MLS is better off with Beckham than without - I dont disagree, he cant hurt it at all to be honest.. only improve it.. But again i personally rather him be on Milan, where he looks like more of an effective player, because it benefits my favorite Euro-team and make the Galaxy less stronger which is always helpful to the Redbulls when they face them 2 or so times a year.. Its not like the league turns to sh!t if Beckham leaves.. but poor Galaxy though, no Donovan or Beckham is gonna kill their attendance.. or at least i think so I did go to the LA vs RB game in both 2007 and 2008 -- the first game was packed -- the second not (but Donovan did score in extra time) Exactly; 2007 - everyone on the Beckham wagon and dieing to see him, 2008 - everyone is over it.. And most likely in 2009 the attendance would drop again for the NY/LA game. Edited February 10, 2009 by nmigliore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diablo Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I feel bad about the Galaxy too -- i dont really like the Red Bulls ... they are a tough team to root for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cachorro Louco Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Hey guys. I'm not into American soccer, but I got his question. Dallas F.C. paid $750k to Borrow a player until the end of 2009 from my soccer team in Brasil(see sig). so I just want to know if this is a high value or a low value paid for a soccer Player?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diablo Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 In this economy and in this league ... yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdevils2003champs Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 I'm going tonight to see the Red Bulls, are these games any fun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmigliore Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 they haven't even won a game yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdevils2003champs Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Tremendous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdevils2003champs Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Its nice to hear our ol' PA announcer Bob Galerstein does the PA for the Red Bulls game. I'm still expecting him to slip and say instead of John Madden instead of Juan Pablo Angel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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