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  1. Yeah I don’t want to rush to judging that kid either, but I didn’t love the pick at the time, and wonder why some have him as this future sniper. Haven’t shown much ability to find the net so far, wherever he’s been. But still way early.
  2. Yeah those final 6 seasons were rough overall…but should not have taken as long as it did for him to get in.
  3. A lot of guys to sign for next season too. But it seems like so many teams in "trouble" find ways to move expendables, to make sure that they keep the players that they really want.
  4. Admittedly the "whining" comment is not a great response. I'm not gonna harp on it though (not implying that you are, just sayin').
  5. Meh, all I think she was going for was "as soon as I have something to tell you, I'm ready to go...got my pen and pad ready to write down lines as soon as I see combos out there". Other than possibly wondering who coughed the loudest during his physical, or a few "what I did this summer" tidbits from the players, was there really much of anything worth reporting yesterday? As rookie camp (and then full camp) gets underway, I'm sure we'll be getting our "inside dope" fixes, as to who's skating with who during practices, what's being worked on, etc. This isn't even a blip on the majority of sports fans' radar anyway, really...the NFL regular season just started, and baseball is in its final stretch as division and WC races are sorting themselves out...to fans who follow multiple sports, that's more where their attention is. Day 1 of a couple of guys skating and getting physicals (and not seeing much written or mentioned about it) just isn't worth getting that worked up about (even if it's only to complain a little). I don't feel like I missed out on anything, put it that way.
  6. The 89 team really wasn't anything special...they were basically a .500 team through the end of July (53-50), had one big burst in August (going 15-4 for one stretch), and went 8-3 in their last 11 games of the year (effectively garbage time) to make their season look better than it really was. And Viola (clearly a blockbuster acquisition) just seemed kinda meh...look at his numbers as a Met and they weren't bad by any stretch, but something just seemed missing. Even when he won 20 games and had a terrific 1990, something just never felt right with him. Felt very much like he was just passing through, especially when he mailed it in during the last half of 1991 (he could not have cared less...he wasn't even trying). The 85 team was really friggin' good (that version of Carter was the best the Mets would get, really), but the Cards were just that little bit better. And one problem at times with the post-86 teams is that they carried themselves like they were the best, but it was other teams finishing ahead of them and doing it quietly. The 87, 89, and 90 teams really had a way of not getting done when they absolutely had to. They didn't carry themselves like they were soft, but in ways they kinda were.
  7. And yet another way to look at it...assuming a guy like Zetterlund even has a choice to begin with, is it a great look for a guy who's clearly now lower on the depth chart and likely running out of chances to stay in the Devils' plans to say "Nah, I don't need any extra work, not gonna bother." A guy like him really has to go the extra mile now to prove he's not just some journeyman who maybe gets 50-100 games at the NHL level, if even that many. I kinda remember Q really trying to make more of an impression at the end. So yeah, 100% in Zetterlund's best interests to do every little thing he can not to be "just another guy" and try to stand out, but being that he's four years removed from his draft season and indeed in Rookie Camp Numero Cinco, I don't kid myself about his future. But not like 3rd-rounders are ever sure things.
  8. Those Mets did come up short a lot, really...they only made the playoffs twice, and only reached the World Series the one time. I had forgotten what a really rotten start the 1990 Mets had gotten off to...just 21-26 (Davey got fired at 20-22), and then they went absolutely nuts for a while under Bud Harrelson...won 27 out of their next 32 games, and were back in business. Eventually they were 61-41 and were a game up, but only won half of their remaining games...and two five-game losing streaks in September really killed them (they went from being a 1/2 game out to 3 1/2 games out each time). Then came 1991...they fell completely apart around midseason, after starting 53-38 (they would lose an insane 23 out of 27 games, seemingly out of nowhere, though the signs were there that a "correction" of sorts was coming), and that was the end of being relevant for a while.
  9. Yeah when you think about what that 87 team went through, it was kinda miraculous that they got as close as they did. You had 12 pitchers that were used as starters, with only one of them managing to start more than 30+ games (Darling). Only two other starters managed 25 or more starts (Doc and Fernandez). Guys like John Mitchell, Terry Leach, and a very raw David Cone all made 13 or more starts that year...and Leach of all people really did a hell of a job for a while (though the metrics suggest he enjoyed some very good fortune in pulling that off). The Mets really dug themselves a hole by starting off just 44-40 (and 10.5 games back)...losing 6 out of 7 to the Cards in April also set a bad tone early. The Mets went on a nice tear for a while (40-21 from 7/9 - 9/16), but 10.5 games is so much to make up...they just couldn't stay hot enough for long enough. They went 8-9 over their final 17 games...simply couldn't sustain that good run.
  10. Yeah Davey was 100% the right guy for those 84-86 teams…I do think he eventually became a bit of a fat cat though. But there’s blame to go around for sure…starting with Cashen making a LOT of iffy deals, once the Mets had reached the top of the mountain. What’s kinda funny is that due to the Mets taking definitive steps in 84, 85, and 86, just how god-awful the Foster signing really was gets overlooked. It was an expensive signing for that time. Perlman’s book goes into some detail about Foster’s time with the Mets…the only real friend he had was Ray Knight, who said that Foster was often misunderstood. But the rest of his Met last teammates couldn’t wait to see him go.
  11. SI ran a story about Keith’s very complicated relationship with his father (think it was in 86 or 87). Yeah lots of dad issues there for sure.
  12. Re: Ojeda, that was legit…he wound up missing much of 1987 due to ulnar nerve damage in his pitching elbow. Gotta think what he went through in 1986 was related. And yeah, lots of emotion from a number of players…really was a shame that they didn’t get a second shot in 1987 relatively intact…but you had Gooden’s drug suspension, Carter’s decline beginning…even if Knight and Mitchell had stuck around, who knows what would’ve happened? There was a lefty reliever who came with McReynolds, who was even more wrong for New York…a guy named Gene Walter. I remember him because he was that classic awkward lefty, and because in his first appearance, he walked the bases loaded on 12 pitches, then blew up. Total disaster here. EDIT: the bases loaded game was actually his sixth as a Met (had to look it up), and he was a little better than I remember….he just missed so much time due to injury, and was only here a couple of seasons.
  13. One side note, regarding Once Upon A Time In Queens…for some reason, they mentioned Calvin Schiraldi as the Mets’ primary fifth starter in 1985, but he wasn’t (made only four starts), and only made 10 appearances that season (he was largely terrible). The real fifth starter to emerge that year was Rick Aguilera…and Ojeda was more brought in as a potential upgrade over Ed Lynch. But shows like this often get a couple of things wrong. Re: Schiraldi, you can tell the perception that he’s soft really gets to him, even now. But I’ve read plenty that his Met teammates thought of him as this annoying dweeb who was just easily beaten and didn’t fit in. Supposedly they loved seeing him on the mound during the World Series.
  14. Parts 3 and 4 were pretty good…obviously lots of time spent on the NLCS and World Series. Plenty of great behind-the-scenes footage and alternate camera angles of various events. I watched a TON of those games back in 86 (I was 16), and it was a lot of fun to relive those days. Mets were a damned good team, and came SO close to coming up empty in the postseason. Well-done epilogue as well, re: Cashen’s sudden desire to tear down what he’d worked so hard to build. Guess he had his reasons. The 2021 team is dead to me. All I gotta say is if Lindor and Baez are somehow supposed to be the dual leaders of this team going forward, this franchise is fvcked.
  15. Simple and silly yet highly effective...
  16. Agree with the bolded, but the way I would phrase it is that I find Chico more endearing, and Dano more annoying. Not to say that I can't stand Dano, but between the "Oh boy!"s and the general tone of his voice (it's just not meant to be on air...too grating), if he's ever replaced, I'm not going to be heartbroken.
  17. Meh, the 2021 Mets are what they are. They're 12 games under .500 since starting 35-25. There's just no reason to believe in them anymore. Apparently Cohen and my boy Alderson are going to pick a baseball ops president (or whatever they want to call the title) together. Why Sandy has ANY say in hires with his track record here is beyond baffling. As long as he manages to hire the right guy (either Theo or Beane) and gets the fvck outta the way, I'll live with it. Saw both episodes 1 and 2 of Once Upon a Time in Queens last night (yep, I'd rather watch that than the 2021 edition), and it is really well done. Much of the first episode is dedicated to the early history of the Mets, the rough beginnings, the 1969 WS Championship, how much it hurt to see Tom Seaver dealt in 1977 (about a month before the blackout riots in NYC, which was obviously a mess at the time even before that), how the Mets had been a trainwreck for years...and then the team's sold to Doubleday, Cashen comes aboard and slowly starts bringing in the pieces that would be lead to the 86 juggernaut. I really like the way they've structured the shows so far...in some cases, they show a clip of a given player coming out on to the field, from a clip of the World Series intros on TV, then delve into that player's history, with clips from the player himself (where possible obviously...Gary Carter is no longer with us). Though the shows are not necessarily presenting THAT much that's new to hardcore Mets fans who know just about everything there is to know about the 86 team, they're doing it in a highly entertaining way. What's funny is even now, you can tell that though Keith very much respected Carter's abilities on the field (for the most part...more on that in a bit), Gary's gee-whiz God-squad personality just grated on Keith in a huge way...and when you hear clips of Gary talking, you can easily see why he'd rub a lot of ballplayers the wrong way. Though Carter was a leader of sorts, it's pretty clear that Keith was tops in a lot of ways...Sid Fernandez mentioned that Gary would come to the mound to talk strategy, then as he was walking back to the plate, Keith would simply say "Screw that, just throw your fastball" or something that would completely contradict what Carter said...Sid admittedly that he deferred to Keith, who he saw as the real leader of the team. And on a side note re: Keith, I'm sorry, that guy should be in the Hall of Fame...he was a beast on the field (one of the best defensive first basemen ever...10 Gold Gloves) and even if he didn't hit a ton of home runs, he was a hell of a hitter (.296 lifetime, and his slash was .301/.391/.445 through the 1987 season), and as clutch as they come. He was dynamic and dominating, regardless of not having massive power numbers for a first baseman. The one shame about the 86 team is that it's not hard to see why they couldn't go on a true multiple-WS run. Gary and Keith were already 32, and would start their declines soon after. There was actually a lot of youth elsewhere on the team, but we know what happened with Doc and Straw...and some of the kids who were supposed to keep this thing going in the years to come (Elster, Jefferies, etc) were disappointments. And Cashen made some bad moves...Kevin McReynolds was obviously a fine player, but he didn't fit the Mets one bit. And fiery guys like Backman and Dykstra were dealt for guys who didn't help...Dykstra and McDowell for Juan Samuel was just brutal.
  18. Kinda hard to believe (mostly because he's been inconsistent and prone to maddening moments...he's also had some "fatten up" games that have blown up his numbers), but I'm pretty sure we can all live with the Lindor that's put up these numbers since 5/29: 64 GP (61 GS), 261 PA, 225 AB, .262 BA, .353 OB%, .511 SLG% (.864 OPS), 45 R, 14 HR, 43 RBI, 29 BB, 48 K (pretty good ratio these days) Of course, due to the inconsistency and occasional WTF moment, his numbers don't FEEL quite as good as they look...and when you add in that 18 of his RBI came in four games, that can help it feel like he hasn't been as productive as his overall numbers suggest. But still, I'll happily take these rate numbers over a 550 AB season.
  19. That's awesome! If anything they might be able to help you track down the remaining ones (as part of the story).
  20. And I said right in my post that I don't think the Yankees themselves are cheating, and am not trying to imply that they were. I was making the point that players and teams sometimes cheat without it paying off...meaning that a player or team not producing (in other cases, not the 2021 Yankees) doesn't mean there's absolutely zero chance of shenanigans happening. As far as cheating scandals in MLB go, you're forgetting about the 1951 Giants too, when they were apparently using a telescope from behind CF, then relaying the signals via buzzer back to the dugout. This started on July 20...the team went 51-18 from that point on (after starting 47-41). Of course the "how"s regarding how this was done came out way after the fact. And like I said, you had a HELL of a lot of players 'roiding up at one point (some guys are still getting caught even now).
  21. Yeah I remember that quite well, heh heh. And I'm quite sure HE does!
  22. I don't think the Yankees whistling to signal pitches (if that's what they were even doing) is that big of a deal...if a guy's tipping his pitches, then of course you're going to tell your teammates, and even try to do it in real time. As long as the Yankees weren't using any video or other tech to steal signs or anything like that, I can't get on them. And Walker's been bad enough in his last 10 starts (7.38 ERA and an ungodly 17 HRs allowed in his last 50 IP) that you can't help but wonder if a LOT of other teams have noticed that he's tipping his pitches, but were simply more subtle in exploiting it. That being said, cheating doesn't always lead to the intended ("positive") results. There's 'roiders who still weren't all that much better once they went on the juice. Jimmy Johnson admitted that he used to have people trying to pick up the opposition's signaling of plays, but abandoned it simply because he didn't really think it was helping him all that much. So though I'm not accusing the Yankees of cheating here, I will say that some teams who are trying to cheat simply aren't benefitting from it...but obviously doesn't mean that they're not guilty by virtue of suckage.
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