Big Fight in Yankee-Sox Game

[Satans Hockey]

Watching baseball players trying to fight is hysterical.

[Nature's Minister]

Sturtze is bleeding. He's also the only guy on the staff who'll bean someone in the head now that Brown is down.

The next time Brown starts against the Sox, you know there will be problems. The guy is a fvcking sadist.

Edited July 24, 2004 by Nature's Minister

[Satans Hockey]

Sturtze is bleeding. He's also the only guy on the staff who'll bean someone in the head now that Brown is down.

The next time Brown starts against the Sox, you know there will be problems. The guy is a fvcking sadist.

lol I can't wait to see some more fights. I get to see Kevin Brown pitch tom. because I work at the ballpark where the Staten Island Yankees play.

[Nature's Minister]

Kevin Brown has always been one of my favorite pitchers, simply because he likes to cause opposing players pain. I think he's ridiculously high on the all-time hit batters per inning pitched list.

Edited July 24, 2004 by Nature's Minister

[Derek21]

Looks like the rumble woke up the Sox. In any event, A-rod scored some points with me today. Varitek must have yapped something to get him going.

[CHICO IS GOD]

Screw the Red Sox. They are and will continue to be fvcking losers. I'm not saying Arroyo meant to hit A-rod but Varitek knew what he was doing when he started sh!t. Also, Schilling the first one out there? Maybe if he didn't pitch like sh!t yesterday he wouldn't be so eager to fight. Ortiz is a sh!thead too. Ok, he was helping his team-mate, that means he has to proceed to throw a punch while a guy is down and focused on Kapler? Ortiz shouldn't even be playing because of his 5 year old like actions a few days back but because of baseball's stupid appeals process, he gets to play in the series. Whatever, at the end of the day, the Red Sox will still be in 2nd place with the Yankees comfortably in front.

Edited July 24, 2004 by CHICO IS GOD

[Satans Hockey]

Screw the Red Sox. They are and will continue to be fvcking losers. I'm not saying Arroyo meant to hit A-rod but Varitek knew what he was doing when he started sh!t. Also, Schilling the first one out there? Maybe if he didn't pitch like sh!t yesterday he wouldn't be so eager to fight. Ortiz is a sh!thead too. Ok, he was helping his team-mate, that means he has to proceed to throw a punch while a guy is down and focused on Kapler? Ortiz shouldn't even be playing because of his 5 year old like actions a few days back but because of baseball's stupid appeals process, he gets to play in the series. Whatever, at the end of the day, the Red Sox will still be in 2nd place with the Yankees comfortably in front.

I don't think anyone here is a Red Sox fan

[Derek21]

Well, a weird game ends even weirder. The Red Sox beat the best closer Rivera to win it 11-10. I knew it too because Rivera wasn't sharp the whole inning. If he doesn't hit the targets, you can get him.

Give the Sox a lot of credit. They won a classic by beating the best. Nixon just missed but Mueller didn't.

Not the most well played ballgame. But definitely entertaining. LOL

That's definitely a Sox moment. They deserved it.

[CHICO IS GOD]

Well, a weird game ends even weirder. The Red Sox beat the best closer Rivera to win it 11-10. I knew it too because Rivera wasn't sharp the whole inning. If he doesn't hit the targets, you can get him.

Give the Sox a lot of credit. They won a classic by beating the best. Nixon just missed but Mueller didn't.

Not the most well played ballgame. But definitely entertaining. LOL

That's definitely a Sox moment. They deserved it.

Yeah, when I saw Nixon make contact the way he did, I thought it was 10-10 for sure. Rivera didn't have it but when you consider the season he's having, he's entitled to a blown save every now and then, you just wish it would be in another game. It was a hell of a game, both teams had their chances and it was just momentum shift after momentum shift. The Red Sox may have won and ended the Yankees recent winning streak over the Sox but 8 1/2 is still a large margain even if it's only the end of July. Hopefully the Yankees will come back strong tommorow and take the series.

[NJayDevil]

Red Sox are a very sorry excuse for a baseball team.

Wanna know what kind of men they are...one example is needed only...Catcher throws punches with his catcher's mask on. Can not be anymore of a P-U-S-S-Y than that.

It's like Brodeur fighting some other goalie and leaving his mask on.

What sucks though is the Yanks only have a 8 game lead over the Sox, damn...

[RowdyFan42]

  I don't think anyone here is a Red Sox fan

*raises hand*

I didn't see the game today; I was doing yard work (beautiful weather for working outside -- cool and dry -- didn't want it to go to waste), then I was out for a while, and when I got back I did a little more yard work until it started getting dark. Looks like I missed a classic.

And there's no point in responding to Chico and NJay's shots at the Sox, because all they did was prove that Yankee fans tend to be a$$holes when it comes to talking about the Red Sox. Nothing new there.

[Satans Hockey]

[NJayDevil]

  I don't think anyone here is a Red Sox fan

*raises hand*

I didn't see the game today; I was doing yard work (beautiful weather for working outside -- cool and dry -- didn't want it to go to waste), then I was out for a while, and when I got back I did a little more yard work until it started getting dark. Looks like I missed a classic.

And there's no point in responding to Chico and NJay's shots at the Sox, because all they did was prove that Yankee fans tend to be a$$holes when it comes to talking about the Red Sox. Nothing new there.

Of course you aren't going to respond to my shot at the catcher because you, or even God for that matter, can't come up with a reasonable explaination why he kept his mask on while shoving his fists into A-Rod's face.

[Derek21]

Varitek definitely should have taken off his mask when he was confronted by A-rod there. Instead, he used it as a shield giving him an unfair advantage. A-rod risked serious injury there.

Rowdy, so are you generalizing about Yankee fans? I hope not.

At this point, the stupid brawl should be secondary to the game and the series because both went down to the wire. Let's not overlook that. Looking forward to the rubber match tomorrow in what's been an exciting series.

[Chris]

  I don't think anyone here is a Red Sox fan

*raises hand*

I didn't see the game today; I was doing yard work (beautiful weather for working outside -- cool and dry -- didn't want it to go to waste), then I was out for a while, and when I got back I did a little more yard work until it started getting dark. Looks like I missed a classic.

And there's no point in responding to Chico and NJay's shots at the Sox, because all they did was prove that Yankee fans tend to be a$$holes when it comes to talking about the Red Sox. Nothing new there.

Of course you aren't going to respond to my shot at the catcher because you, or even God for that matter, can't come up with a reasonable explaination why he kept his mask on while shoving his fists into A-Rod's face.

Did you really think he was going to take off all his equipment before he punched/pushed Pay-Rod in the face? No one is that dumb.

"Hey, Alex, give me a second. I just need to remove my mask, chest protector, and maybe my pants, too. After that, I'll punch you in your twenty-million-dollar face. Hopefully, while I'm doing it, you won't be on top of me trying to end my career."

Pay-Rod deserves to be suspended. He caused the brawl. Arroyo has hit more batters per nine innings than any other pitcher in the major leagues, and he certainly didn't intentionally drill him in the arm with a changeup.

By the way, do you think Posada, in all his Yankee glory, would have taken his mask off if Manny had been hit by a pitch and greatly overreacted to it? Did he do it in the ALCS?

[NJayDevil]

Did you really think he was going to take off all his equipment before he punched/pushed Pay-Rod in the face? No one is that dumb.

"Hey, Alex, give me a second. I just need to remove my mask, chest protector, and maybe my pants, too. After that, I'll punch you in your twenty-million-dollar face. Hopefully, while I'm doing it, you won't be on top of me trying to end my career."

Pay-Rod deserves to be suspended. He caused the brawl. Arroyo has hit more batters per nine innings than any other pitcher in the major leagues, and he certainly didn't intentionally drill him in the arm with a changeup.

You sure don't know what your talking about.

The Sox catcher should have taken off his mask when he was ARGUING with A-Rod. But instead he didn't. He had plenty of time to take it off then but the puss opted out of that. Oh and who said anything about removing his chest protector and his shin guards and all of that? 'Cause I sure as hell didn't.

Pay-Rod? That's funny. What's even funnier is all that jealousy pouring out of your mouth. Cute nickname though.

And A-Rod did what a normal batter would after getting HBP, ESPECIALLY in a rivalry like the Sox and Yanks. Ever get the impression the Yanks batters are starting to get sick and tired of getting hit by a pitch thrown by a Red Sox pitcher. Notice the latest brawls are all started by the Red Sox pitchers? Notice the Yanks have the CLASSIC to not throw back, which I personally don't like (and don't be surprised if the Yanks be the first ones to start the sh!t next time, because they are long overdue to do it this time around). The only recent brawl involving a Yankee pitcher on the mound was Clemens last year when his high pitch was no where near Manny's head and the idiot that Manny is, he flipped out, but if you see the replay you will notice that ball was 2 feet+ away from Manny's body. Also if you look back at that tape, you will find Posada's mask NOT on his face, what a real catcher does when there's some rough stuff coming up, instead of hiding behind his mask.

By the way, do you think Posada, in all his Yankee glory, would have taken his mask off if Manny had been hit by a pitch and greatly overreacted to it? Did he do it in the ALCS?

As I stated before, his mask was placed on TOP of his head, exposing his face when Manny and Clemens were yelling at each other last year in the ALCS. He did that and ALSO tied the game up in the 7th game off of Pedro. Thought I would throw that in there.

[Chris]

Did you really think he was going to take off all his equipment before he punched/pushed Pay-Rod in the face? No one is that dumb.

"Hey, Alex, give me a second. I just need to remove my mask, chest protector, and maybe my pants, too. After that, I'll punch you in your twenty-million-dollar face. Hopefully, while I'm doing it, you won't be on top of me trying to end my career."

Pay-Rod deserves to be suspended. He caused the brawl. Arroyo has hit more batters per nine innings than any other pitcher in the major leagues, and he certainly didn't intentionally drill him in the arm with a changeup.

You sure don't know what your talking about.

The Sox catcher should have taken off his mask when he was ARGUING with A-Rod. But instead he didn't. He had plenty of time to take it off then but the puss opted out of that. Oh and who said anything about removing his chest protector and his shin guards and all of that? 'Cause I sure as hell didn't.

Pay-Rod? That's funny. What's even funnier is all that jealousy pouring out of your mouth. Cute nickname though.

I should probably correct you before I get too far into my response.

because Yanks have the CLASSIC to not throw back

LOL

You sure don't know what your talking about.

I don't know what I'm talking about, huh? You can assume whatever you want to assume, but I know this for a fact: you have no idea how to utilize the English language, and it certainly doesn't help your cause.

The Sox catcher should have taken off his mask when he was ARGUING with A-Rod. But instead he didn't. He had plenty of time to take it off then but the puss opted out of that. Oh and who said anything about removing his chest protector and his shin guards and all of that? 'Cause I sure as hell didn't.

If you somehow failed to notice, I was bashing your insistence that a catcher remove his mask by adding in that he may as well remove everything else, too. If he had removed it, I'd be questioning his intelligence. A-Rod is the "puss" for even starting a fight to begin with. You fight to win, period.

Pay-Rod? That's funny. What's even funnier is all that jealousy pouring out of your mouth. Cute nickname though.

What has A-Rod done in his career? How many rings does he have? He's no better than Manny Ramirez, another proven choker, and Manny is the more well-rounded hitter. By the way, how do you know that his ejection--and the subsequent brawl--didn't directly lead to the Yankees' loss? What a great team player he truly is.

Edited July 25, 2004 by Chris

[NJayDevil]

You sure don't know what your talking about.

The Sox catcher should have taken off his mask when he was ARGUING with A-Rod. But instead he didn't. He had plenty of time to take it off then but the puss opted out of that. Oh and who said anything about removing his chest protector and his shin guards and all of that? 'Cause I sure as hell didn't.

Pay-Rod? That's funny. What's even funnier is all that jealousy pouring out of your mouth. Cute nickname though.

I should probably correct you before I get too far into my response.

because Yanks have the CLASSIC to not throw back

LOL

You sure don't know what your talking about.

I don't know what I'm talking about, huh? You can assume whatever you want to assume, but I know this for a fact: you have no idea how to utilize the English language, and it certainly doesn't help your cause.

The Sox catcher should have taken off his mask when he was ARGUING with A-Rod. But instead he didn't. He had plenty of time to take it off then but the puss opted out of that. Oh and who said anything about removing his chest protector and his shin guards and all of that? 'Cause I sure as hell didn't.

If you somehow failed to notice, I was bashing your insistence that a catcher remove his mask by adding in that he may as well remove everything else, too. If he had removed it, I'd be questioning his intelligence. A-Rod is the "puss" for even starting a fight to begin with. You fight to win, period.

Pay-Rod? That's funny. What's even funnier is all that jealousy pouring out of your mouth. Cute nickname though.

What has A-Rod done in his career? How many rings does he have? He's no better than Manny Ramirez, another proven choker, and Manny is the more well-rounded hitter. By the way, how do you know that his ejection--and the subsequent brawl--didn't directly lead to the Yankees' loss? What a great team player he truly is.

[CHICO IS GOD]

And there's no point in responding to Chico and NJay's shots at the Sox, because all they did was prove that Yankee fans tend to be a$$holes when it comes to talking about the Red Sox. Nothing new there.

Oh c'mon, it's just like what happened with the Cubs-Cards. The Cubs couldn't take losing so they started trouble, that's exactly what the Red Sox did. Yes, Yankee fans can be extremely cocky, but Red Sox fans can be extremely bitter. The Red Sox deserved to win today, they overcame the Yankees big lead but I still believe the Red Sox were wrong when it came to the fight.

[CHICO IS GOD]

Pay-Rod deserves to be suspended. He caused the brawl. Arroyo has hit more batters per nine innings than any other pitcher in the major leagues, and he certainly didn't intentionally drill him in the arm with a changeup.

First of all, no one will be suspended. As far as Arroyo, yes, he's hit a lot of batters but do you think A-rod was thinking about that when he got hit? Of course not. Also, the only reason Yankees are so quick to react to getting hit by a pitch is because of Pedro. Arroyo may simply not have the control but Pedro means to hit batters so when a Yankee gets hit by a Boston pitcher, the first reaction is that was intentional.

[CHICO IS GOD]

What has A-Rod done in his career? How many rings does he have? He's no better than Manny Ramirez, another proven choker, and Manny is the more well-rounded hitter. By the way, how do you know that his ejection--and the subsequent brawl--didn't directly lead to the Yankees' loss? What a great team player he truly is.

Manny may be the more well-rounded hitter but A-rod is without doubt the better overall player. A-rod can do it all, steal bases, play good defense, and hit well. Just because A-rod not having a ring doesn't mean he's a playoff choker, A-rod has only been in the playoffs three times and he hardly got to play in 95. His playoff average? .340. Manny has been in the playoffs 6 times, his playoff average? .232. So now please tell me who's the choker. Also, yes ability is most important but at least A-rod respects and takes the game seriously. Where the hell was Manny running today? To right field? What if that ball would have been dropped? Manny can't even wear his uniform properly.

Edited July 25, 2004 by CHICO IS GOD

[Chris]

So that's your response to my statement to me saying the Yanks have Classic not to throw back by just typing "lol"? That's a sign of not knowing what to say so whenever in doubt, just type "lol". Awesome reponse. Whew.

They "have Classic," huh? I won't even try to explain it to you.

Don't know how to utilize the English language. What the FVCK are you talking about? So you don't know what to say so you rather point out that I didn't type out "Because" but rather I typed " 'Cause "? Another example for not knowing what to say so you rather make yourself feel better by correcting my grammar. Doesn't make any difference to me since I type how I talk, and if I don't speak too proper for you, I'm sincerely sorry pal.

Again, I won't even attempt to explain what was wrong with "you're" grammar in that instance.

And again you just COMPLETELY dismiss my main arguement about the Sox catcher for not taking off his mask. Give me your reason why he didn't remove it while arguing with A-Rod, and give me your reason why Posada removed his mask when Manny overreached last year? But instead of doing that you tried to side step my comments, but only Lou Lams is good at doing that, not you.

Your main "arguement" has already been responded to. The guy would have to be a total moron to take his mask off in a situation like that. Posada probably removed his mask when Manny "overreached" because he had a facial itch. Or, apparently unlike Varitek, he isn't very smart.

How was A-Rod's ejection the reason the Yanks lost? Give me a reasonable explaination. He was sticking up for himself, he was sticking up for his TEAM with his choice words to the pitcher. He's making sure the Red Sox know that his teammates nor himself will not back down from anything they throw at them, nor will they stand to CONSTANTLY be hit back a Red Sox pitcher. If he doesn't say his choice-words, what stops the pitcher from hitting another batter? And another batter?

It wasn't just his "choice-words" to the pitcher that got him into trouble. He wasn't even heading toward first base, and then he yelled something at Varitek when he was protecting his pitcher. The fight didn't need to break out, but it did, mainly due to Pay-Rod's enormous ego. You don't really think he did it for his team, do you?

And what has A-Rod done in his career? A lot more than you, I and Manny. Manny has played more games than A-Rod (115 to be exact, almost an entire season) and A-Rod only has 5 less HR's than Manny, only a touch under 200 less RBI's, only 59 fewer hits, and has more runs than Manny. So if played the same amount of games, A-Rod would be ahead of Manny in all those categories except MAYBE the RBI's. Oh and not to mention A-Rod is a FAR better defensive player than Manny can/will ever be.

Yeah, and what is Alex's career OBP? How about his career average? He's a pure home run hitter, unlike Ramirez, and he will never come close to matching his .358 rookie season. How many batting titles has he won since then? Hell, I've seen Yankees fans question his "superstar" status after they saw him play for 3-4 months. I give him his props for having a 40-40 season and being as good a power hitter and a defensive player as he is, but he isn't as amazing as some people make him out to be. The best player in baseball? Please.

Kinda funny how you wanted to compare Manny to A-Rod when just a few months ago you wanted Manny the hell out of BoTown and A-Rod coming in. Why the all-of-a-sudden change of heart?

"You"? You act like I represent the entire city of Boston. I didn't want A-Rod coming here. I didn't particularly want Manny to stay, either, but he has a long-term deal, and management kind of has an obligation to honor that.

[Chris]

What has A-Rod done in his career? How many rings does he have? He's no better than Manny Ramirez, another proven choker, and Manny is the more well-rounded hitter. By the way, how do you know that his ejection--and the subsequent brawl--didn't directly lead to the Yankees' loss? What a great team player he truly is.

Manny may be the more well-rounded hitter but A-rod is without doubt the better overall player. A-rod can do it all, steal bases, play good defense, and hit well. Just because A-rod doesn't have a ring doesn't mean he's a playoff choker, A-rod has only been in the playoffs three times and he hardly got to play in 95. His playoff average? .340. Manny has been in the playoffs 6 times, his playoff average? .232. So now please tell me who's the choker. Also, yes ability is most important but at least A-rod respects and takes the game seriously. Where the hell was Manny running today? To right field? What if that ball would have been dropped? Manny can't even wear his uniform properly.

Isn't Nomore Farciapopup's playoff average somewhere around .360? Enough said.

[Satans Hockey]

I wouldnt take my mask off either. Just like MOST of the time in hockey if 2 players are fighting and one already had his helment off the other USUALLY doesn't take it off. Im not talking about players with visors and I know that this doesn't happen all the time.

Edited July 25, 2004 by NJDEVILICEONFIRE

[CHICO IS GOD]

Isn't Nomore Farciapopup's playoff average somewhere around .360? Enough said.

.323 and what the hell does that prove?