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Another banner day for Wright.  And the idiot manager can't pencil him into the third hole fast enough.  Another fun day in Metland.

 

Mets are 5-10 in their last 15 GP. 

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Check out Niese's 2013 and 2014 seasons...trad stats are very similar after 24 starts (a little better this season):

 

http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/stats/_/id/29219/jonathon-niese

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Another banner day for Wright.  And the idiot manager can't pencil him into the third hole fast enough.  Another fun day in Metland.

 

Mets are 5-10 in their last 15 GP. 

 

Phillies may pass them and dump the Mets into last place soon.

 

Wright should've been shut down for the year. He is clearly hurt. Next rung on the Mets karmic wheel is him getting more hurt from being constantly run out there (just like the Yanks are going to get burned with Tanaka as they rush him back)

 

Murphy on the DL...Dilson Herrera coming up. If he impresses, we'll see increasing chatter of a Murph trade this offseason. But this time it may actually happen.

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Wow, re:  Herrera...I love it.  The Mets should bring up Matt Reynolds while they're at it, though I guess Flores and Tejada will still get time over there for the next few days. 

 

And yeah, let's face it, Murph is going to become a $10-$12 million per year player very soon...we've discussed that in detail, as well as his strengths and weaknesses.  The Mets need to think VERY long and hard before tying up what for them (sadly) is big money in a player like Murph, especially if Herrera looks like he can man the position at the major-league level soon.  Admittedly, I'm not expecting much from Herrera in 2014...AA is a long way from the majors, and it wouldn't surprise me if Herrera is overwhelmed initially...in baseball years he's not even a baby yet...he's still a fetus.  So if he struggles mightily, I'm not going to worry about him, and if anything, I don't think it will hurt for him to get a taste of the majors. 

 

This is interesting:

 

http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2014/08/mets_considering_moving_travis_darnaud_to_outfield_report_says.html

 

It's not like it's unheard of for young catchers to switch positions, but as we've seen, not everyone can handle the switch...see Hundley, Todd. 

 

Anyway, it's looking more and more like the 2015 Mets are going to do what we all thought they would:  not spend money and try to field a team on the cheap.  And it looks like they're going to do it with in-house options (I'd rather that than Sandy bringing in another Chris Young-type stiff):

 

LF:  d'Arnaud

CF:  Lagares

RF:  Granderson

1B:  Duda

2B:  Herrera (Murph will get dealt)

SS:  Reynolds

3B:  Wright

C:  Plawecki

 

I wonder if the Mets send d'Arnaud to winter ball to get him as much experience in the outfield as possible.  If anything, they can at least figure out whether or not they should nip this idea in the bud right away. 

 

CF, RF, 1B and 3B are probably locked...can't see anyone taking on Granderson or Wright with their contracts. 

 

I can't see the Mets going with Tejada or Flores in short next season...they can't be THAT cheap and THAT stupid.  And they don't have enough offense at the other positions to bring in a defensive specialist who doesn't hit, especially if Wright is going to be an average player from here on out.  I hope Reynolds gets September to get his feet wet. 

 

Of course, the problem with the above is that now it's about 2016 unless the kids contribute immediately in 2015.  But if the Mets are going to go the route I'm expecting them to, at least it's not going to be about wondering about what all of these kids can do...we're going to find out VERY soon about these names at the major-league level.   

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Not a crazy idea with d'Arnaud. He's 25 and I believe Hundley was 29 when he switched to being a left field butcher. d'Arnaud is more athletic than Hundley ever was, but has been abominable behind the plate. Sure this reeks of Mets "save a buck anyway we can" thinking by trying to solve the LF issue in house, but I think d'Arnaud is capable of providing corner OF power. Plus you have Lagares roaming around out there to help him.

 

It can also be an outright failure as it was with Duda, and Murphy.

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I'm not against d'Arnaud getting a shot in LF, but if the Mets really want to do this, they need to do it the right way.  Get him in winter ball.  Have him play games at the position in September and bring up Plawecki. 

 

And Travis is still a bit iffy with the bat, even with the sudden power.  He's been stuck in the .220s for a while now, after his initial return surge.  If the Met OF is d'Arnaud, Lagares, and Granderson, you're looking at a potential OB% of less than .320, a combined BA of less than .250, and some HR, but not tons of them (Lagares and Grandy will rack up the Ks). 

 

I think Grandy is what he is now and will have some good stretches and some flat-out black holes, which means we're banking on Lagares and d'Arnaud becoming better hitters.  Lagares' glove is so damned good that he doesn't have to improve THAT much, but if d'Arnaud never gets that much better at the plate AND can't field left...ouch.

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Citi and some good D really helping out Colon tonight.  Looks like his luck is starting to run out though.

 

Ugh, of course he has one of his poorer starts before Deadline #2.  Oh well...I think by now people know that Colon has some bad ones here and there.

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Yea that was wretched. 6 hits in a row? Just insane...but he has those sometimes. Then he could rattle 4-5 good one's in a row. If anything it's better for his trade value since he got his sh!tty start out of the way and now will be great all of September :P

 

Wright continues to do zilch. And please no more Matsuzaka. He has allowed 22 runs and 32 hits in his last 30 innings for a reason. He's hot garbage.

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I should be amazed that Amateur Terry still hasn't figured out that Wright should be dropped in the lineup, but TC is a simply a bad manager.  I just hope he keeps making his idiotic decisions so I don't have to endure him next season.  Mets will go either 11-18 or 12-17 for the month of August...if they do about the same in September, how do the Mets possibly keep him in 2015, unless they're willing to punt that season too?

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I should be amazed that Amateur Terry still hasn't figured out that Wright should be dropped in the lineup, but TC is a simply a bad manager.  I just hope he keeps making his idiotic decisions so I don't have to endure him next season.  Mets will go either 11-18 or 12-17 for the month of August...if they do about the same in September, how do the Mets possibly keep him in 2015, unless they're willing to punt that season too?

 

yea they are having a bad august...but in reality since the All Star break they've played pretty much in line with what they've done all year, 18-23

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yea they are having a bad august...but in reality since the All Star break they've played pretty much in line with what they've done all year, 18-23

 

Mets have been pulling disappearing acts in the second half for a while now...if they do it again, I'm sorry, Passive can't allow Amateur to come back. 

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Mets have been pulling disappearing acts in the second half for a while now...if they do it again, I'm sorry, Passive can't allow Amateur to come back. 

 

Poor in game manager, pushes prized arms, takes him forever to realize what pitchers can and can't do (hey let's run Dillon Gee out for the 7th up 2-1 with 105 pitches what can possibly go wrong?)

 

We've got Backman sitting in the PCL, he just won manager of the year in that league. Now does that mean he's the answer...he has sort of a sketchy past but unlike Terry...he is a winner. But I don't know if he's a Wilpon guy at the major league level.

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Supposedly Sandy doesn't like Wally.  I know Terry hasn't been given awesome talent to work with, but yeah, people seem to be catching on more than ever that this guy is simply not a very good in-game manager.  At this point, I'd gladly give Wally a shot at the job. 

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I can't wait until Gee is gone for good. Throws too many BP fastballs with no movement. His velocity is ok, not great. Just too much fat stuff that hangs over the middle of the plate. He's effective for exactly 2 innings and the rest of the time it's "pray all the hard hit balls find gloves

 

and just now he was bailed out by Lagares to end the 6th. Hopefully he's done for the day because the Phillies pounded him that inning.

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Lagares made a spectacular play in the middle innings to bail out Gee. David Wright had an...RBI!?!?!? And great late game defense by Herrera and Flores on a deep in the hole DP by Howard saves the Mets butts. A win is a win and it's always good to beat the Phillies.

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Not for nothing but it's kind of ridiculous the Mets are playing a day home game on Labor Day weekend when the US Open is still in the first week. Trying to get out of the monsoon with double the traffic was a nightmare (I was actually AT the Open, not a Met game lol).

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Not for nothing but it's kind of ridiculous the Mets are playing a day home game on Labor Day weekend when the US Open is still in the first week. Trying to get out of the monsoon with double the traffic was a nightmare (I was actually AT the Open, not a Met game lol).

Yea that is perplexing...Mets at this point are clearly 2nd fiddle to the open and the traffic situation it can create is nightmarish.

It also bugs me whenever Mets/Jets games during September overlap in any way, granted it only happens 4 times and the Mets have been out of it in Sept since 2008...but if the Jets are playing at 1 next week there is no way the Mets should be on until 4:15

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Another solid (though short) start for Logan Verrett.  5 HP, 2 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 5 K.  He's only allowed 16 BB and 45 H in his last 63 IP. 

 

Sandy of course couldn't find a taker for Colon (wonder if he even bothered to try), so now the Mets are stuck with his $11 million on next year's (sure to be limited) payroll.  Also means that unless Gee or Niese are taken out of the rotation (neither is pitching great, but neither has been awful enough to be yanked either), that there's no room for guys like Verett, Syndergaard or Montero to get looks.  Maybe deGrom gets shut down.

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Zack running up the pitch count and getting hit hard by the Marlins.  Guess the Marlins were due...Zack has owned them so far.

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Wow, nice shot by Herrera!  I wonder if Wright remembers what hitting a dinger feels like.

 

Actual RBIs by Wright.  Bizarro world baseball. 

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Zack is always laboring, really. 

 

Zack has his share of Al Leiter moments.  He's improved on some fronts for sure (he's inducing more swings and misses than last season), but the Met announcers have been rightly getting on him for only being a 6-7 inning pitcher.  The pitch counts seem like they're always going to be an Achilles heel for him...always at 100 pitches by the 6th inning. 

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