sundstrom Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 (edited) I was thinking about the Elias/Hejduk conversation some of us were having the other day and it dawned on me that the Devils really should get something worked out soon with Patrik (whether it be him accepting the qualifier or agreeing on a long term deal) because I think we're gonna see teams try to steal RFA's with big offers that teams close to the cap can't match. I think Columbus knew what they were doing getting Nash signed long term. Here's a list of some important RFA's that could get big offers: Dany Heatly Ilya Kovalchuck Nick Boyton Joe Thorton Jay Bouwmeester Stephen Weiss Patrik Elias Martin Havlat Marian Hossa Jason Spezza Robert Esche Martin St. Louis Vincent Lecavalier Pavel Datsyuk Henrik Zetterberg David Legwand Patrick Marleau Brad Stuart Marco Sturm It's not Lou's style AT ALL, but at the present time, the cap number is about $24M with truly important guys to sign (Gomez, White, Langenbrunner, Elias, Martin). Perhaps Lou presents an offer sheet to one of the young offensive players and steals a guy. I think it's one of the Ottawa kids, if anyone as Atlanta has plenty of room to match both Kovalchuk and Heatley. Of course, if we did it, we'd have to dump someone to make room, but Havlat or Hossa are upgrades over any of our forwards not named Elias. Thoughts? Edited August 9, 2005 by sundstrom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 (edited) Don't you also have to give up a bunch of draft picks to sign a RFA (if the qualifying offer is high enough)? I know some RFA's like Esche have a qualifying offer that's low enough you can get him for a third-rounder but obviously ones that are higher, you're talking first-round pick(s). So that would be more like a trade than actually stealing a guy. The Devils can't do anything like that this year anyway, they'd have to dump like two or three players to make room for one big offer sheet and they can't really afford to dump depth. Edited August 9, 2005 by Hasan4978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voros19 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 (edited) Don't you also have to give up a bunch of draft picks to sign a RFA (if the qualifying offer is high enough)? I know some RFA's like Esche have a qualifying offer that's low enough you can get him for a third-rounder but obviously ones that are higher, you're talking first-round pick(s). So that would be more like a trade than actually stealing a guy.The Devils can't do anything like that this year anyway, they'd have to dump like two or three players to make room for one big offer sheet and they can't really afford to dump depth. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> $660,000 or below --None Over $660,000-$1 million --3rd-round choice Over $1M-$2M --2nd-round choice Over $2M-$3M --1st-round choice and 3rd-round choice Over $3M-$4M --1st-, 2nd- and 3rd-round choices Over $4M-$5M --Two 1st-round choices, one 2nd- and one 3rd-round choice Over $5 million --Four 1st-round choices Edited August 9, 2005 by Voros19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Ah thanks for the list, so anyone under $2 million is a possiblity I suppose for a lot of teams. Any list of THOSE players? (ones who's qualifying offers are under $2 million) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdub Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 whose been offered 660K-2 mil?? i kinda like the team we are putting up this year.. ill like it even more when Elias comes back.. but i wouldnt mind giving up a 3rd or 2nd rounder for some-one who could do something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted August 9, 2005 Author Share Posted August 9, 2005 i'll admit that i thought that the compensation rules for signing an RFA were much looser than that. i suppose my original thought really isn't as valid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 I like it on paper but in reality I think the GMs have a gentleman's agreement not to steal RFAs from one another - I don't know what the draft pick penalty is in this CBA and I'm sure it's less than in the previous one, still - Lou won't be doing that anytime soon. It is an interesting thought, making your division or conference rival struggle to free up enough cap room to keep the guy. But the Devils really don't have that room to play around with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 I would sign Kovalchuk in a second giving up 4 first rounders. That guy is the fastest big man in NHL history. Imagine: Elias - Gomez - Gionta Kovalchuk - Parise - Suglobov /me wakes up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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