sammyk Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 "Just give them a fvcking team already." Umm wouldn't someone WANT a team in Canada, like a team owner? Several US teams were sold in the past few years. Why didn't anyone from Canada buy a team and relocate? If someone can say they'll by the Pens and relocate them to Kansas City or wherever, why not someone from Canada? What stopped them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnie Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Shrug, I'd much rather see the Devils play any western team than round 8 against the Rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek21 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 if it were up to me, i would structure the schedule:2x vs. each opposing conference team (30 games) 3x vs. other two divisions in own conference (30 games) 6x vs own division teams (24 games) 84 games theres no reason why we shouldnt see every team atleast once. and preferably twice. i would also get rid of the netting over the glass at the ends of the arena. it kills the view from alot of seats, alot of on tv camera angles, and pretty much eliminates the chance of getting a puck at a game. i remember the first puck i got in the stands and it was thrilling. Why do we want to see every team once? Or twice?!? I don't get it! Did people really like 3 out of 4 against Edmonton, Calgary, and Vancouver every year! Those games are almost always poorly played by both teams and feel like exhibition games. They're bad games. If you want to see those other teams, watch them on the Center Ice package when they're playing a rival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnie Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Why do we want to see every team once? Or twice?!? I don't get it! Did people really like 3 out of 4 against Edmonton, Calgary, and Vancouver every year! Those games are almost always poorly played by both teams and feel like exhibition games. They're bad games. If you want to see those other teams, watch them on the Center Ice package when they're playing a rival. Why play outside the division at all? What makes NJ/Florida better than NJ/Phoenix? Because it's a "4 point" game? I don't buy that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJD Jester Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Why play outside the division at all? What makes NJ/Florida better than NJ/Phoenix? Because it's a "4 point" game? I don't buy that. What can I sell you, then? It's like in the NFL -- a Giants/Lions game is just going to carry more weight than a Giants/Browns game, even if both games are going to blow. <JESTER> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTCB Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I agree with supporting more division games. Winning the division means more when you beat more teams in your own division, but also, let$ be honest here, we all know why the NHL wants more division games...would a team like the Devils or Sabres prefer 4 guarantees sellouts against the Rags and Leafs, or 13000 against the Blues on a Wednesday night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrdevil Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 (edited) 10.Rivalry games but too many- no, NO and NO!!!!! Put me in the minority who love the increased rivalry games. By playing 8 times, it puts more emphasis on division play. That's good. There's nothing like the energy of 8 Ranger-Isles, Ranger-Devils, Rangers-Flyers games. And the Pens are coming. So it's only going to get better. If only the Caps still were in the old Patrick. I am for old divisions. That's something he didn't address. But a lot would have to be looked at. I agree I like the new divisional emphasis. I wish they would go back to the old playoff format of a divisional playoff, then conference finals, then Stanley Cup Finals. That was the perfect system because it nearly guaranteed you rivalries in the first 2 rounds. There would be instant bad blood for the first round and it would make that playoffs much more fun for the fans. Sure there rare case like 94 with the Devils-Rangers meeting for the right to play for the cup would be eliminated but there would be more chances of rivalries overall in the playoffs. Plus teams would be playing the same teams every year in the playoff which build rivalries. Remember in 00 and 01 we played Toronto in the playoffs both years and had a nice rivalry building but we didn't play them in 02, 03, 04, and this year they didn't even make the playoffs and that has dropped off. It can be done with this current lineup of teams. Realign back into 4 divisions each conference has 15 teams. 2 Divisions have 8 teams 2 have 7. Top 4 teams in each division make the playoffs. Wales Conference: Patrick Division: New Jersey Devils New York Rangers New York Islanders Philadelphia Flyers Pittsbugh Penguins Washington Capitals Columbus Blue Jackets Adams Division: Boston Bruins Montreal Canadiens Toronto Maple Leafs Ottawa Senators Buffalo Sabres Detroit Red Wings Chicago Blackhawks Minnesota Wild Campbell Conference: Norris Division: Atlanta Thrashers Carolina Hurricanes Tampa Bay Lightning Florida Panthers Nashville Predators St. Louis Blues Dallas Stars Smythe Division: Vancouver Canucks Edmonton Oilers Calgary Flames Colorado Avalanche Phoenix Coyotes Los Angeles Kings Anaheim Ducks San Jose Sharks Key: Orange- Patrick Blue- Adams Green- Norris Red- Smythe The only semi-long rivarly I can think of that is broken up is Detroit-St. Louis. But this also brings all 6 Original 6 teams into the same conference with 5 of them being in the same division. As the playoff format would be divisional base Tampa and Florida being in the same conference as the California teams isn't a big problem. After all Toronto was in the Campbell for many years and that was where Tampa originally was. Edited July 14, 2006 by jkrdevil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forfelix Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 how about the fact that two teams may meet in the finals, and then not even play each other the next year? there have been some great rivalries between teams of opposite conferences throughout the years. and look and detroit and toronto...they were both original six teams and in the same division up until a few years ago, and they may not even meet each year. wouldnt you like to see the devils face all their stanley cup final opponents each year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 how about the fact that two teams may meet in the finals, and then not even play each other the next year? Doesn't bother me in the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnie Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 What can I sell you, then? It's like in the NFL -- a Giants/Lions game is just going to carry more weight than a Giants/Browns game, even if both games are going to blow. <JESTER> A schedule with some variety. I didn't realize so many people supported 32 divisional games, around here almost everyone hates it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Doesn't bother me in the least. Me either. It's commonplace in the NFL and virtually assured in MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrdevil Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I think the new schedule format is more popular in east becasue the teams are so close to each other. The closer the teams are the more of a rivalry there is because you have crossover areas that are split amongst fan base. The more games there are the more times you can trash talk your nieghbot who is a fan of the rival team. Take the Devils for example they have 24 games against the Rangers, Islanders, and Flyers. All 3 teams are within a 3 hour driving distance of each other. There are plenty of areas where there are both Devils and Flyers fans and Devils and Rangers fan. An area out west which isn't as close to another team is pretty much 100 for that team. There are less rivalries there and thus they would like to see every team more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJD Jester Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Oh, now this is fun. It can be done with this current lineup of teams. Realign back into 4 divisions each conference has 15 teams. 2 Divisions have 8 teams 2 have 7. Top 4 teams in each division make the playoffs. I'm not thrilled with the unbalanced divisions, but that wouldn't be the end-all. Wales Conference:Patrick Division: New Jersey Devils New York Rangers New York Islanders Philadelphia Flyers Pittsbugh Penguins Washington Capitals Columbus Blue Jackets The Blue Jackets don't belong here at all. They're a midwest team that needs to build rivalries with Detroit, Nashville and St. Louis to survive. Their fans don't give two sh!ts about these teams. Adams Division:Boston Bruins Montreal Canadiens Toronto Maple Leafs Ottawa Senators Buffalo Sabres Detroit Red Wings Chicago Blackhawks Minnesota Wild I love the idea of the Wings and Leafs back in the same division. I don't like the idea of taking Chicago and Detroit away from St. Louis. Why not make this a seven-teamer? Campbell Conference:Norris Division: Atlanta Thrashers Carolina Hurricanes Tampa Bay Lightning Florida Panthers Nashville Predators St. Louis Blues Dallas Stars OK, so what we've done here is take the Southeast and added Nashville, St. Louis and Dallas, while taking away Chicago and Detroit. This might actually work if there was ever a team in Kansas City or OKC, save for the fact that... Smythe Division:Vancouver Canucks Edmonton Oilers Calgary Flames Colorado Avalanche Phoenix Coyotes Los Angeles Kings Anaheim Ducks San Jose Sharks ...you've just blown up the league's transportation budget. Florida and Tampa in the same conference as Vancouver and the California teams? As a Wales Conference/Patrick Division fan, congrats on making it the best damn conference in the history of hockey. As a Campbell Conference guy, I'd be telling you to get back on your meds. Taking Detroit away from St. Louis, Colorado, Dallas, Nashville and the California teams hurts the league, even if it would bring the original six back together. <JESTER> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepy steve Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Personally I like the playoff format. I'd prefer a 70 game season though. 6x vs division 3x vs conference 2x vs 1 out-of-conference division (divisions match-ups will rotate) 1x vs another out-of-conference (ditto) Technically that's 69 games but they can't have a 69 game season just cuz of all the bad jokes that would result. The reason for 2 games against 1 out of conference division is to build a little rivalry. I know 2 games against columbus isn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek21 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Nice effort jkr on the new divisions under the old format. Both Detroit and Columbus belong on the other side cause of where they play. Meaning I think Detroit should be in the same division as Buffalo. Columbus can shift East to. The idea of putting the Southeast teams with midwest ones such as St. Louis and Dallas is not bad. I definitely am a fan of going back to the old ormat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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