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The reason those bad Yankee teams have some mystique is because they were SO unlike the franchise's norm. It's the same reason that the 1986 Mets have a similar level of mystique...because the ultimate success is SO unlike the franchise's norm, heh heh. The Mets' tumble had already started in 1991...they were actually having a pretty good season and then they collapsed big-time that year, tried to buy their way back into contention prior to 1992 and saw that fail spectacularly. Once Bobby V became the manager things started to head in the right direction, but that guy was so deeply insecure and had a major inferiority complex, he really did. It's sad because he's no dummy when it comes to baseball, but in a lot of ways I think he was absolutely his own worst enemy as a manager. He was one of those types who get on people's nerves without even really trying.

Mets showing a little fight after falling behind 4-0 and being no-hit for four innings. Now tied 5-5. Maybe Alonso goes on a HR tear at some point, but at this point, I really hope the Mets shop him around as the deadline approaches. Might be their best chance to actually get something good back. If they dare to sign him to big money and he continues to be the .220ish whiff-prone hitter who has that way of rarely getting it done when his team really needs him to (see today), they could be stuck with him a long time, and not in a good way.

Thoughts? https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10119502-every-nhl-teams-most-disappointing-player-for-the-2023-24-regular-season

Ha ha-not in the NHL. He's slow/below ave skater, soft, weak. A one trick pony-nice shot. Berube will just love him...😉 Shango -is an actual NHL player and does several things Holtz can't (skate, pk, faceoffs,size). He will be moved prior to the start of next season.

Perfect just perfect! 😆

Agreed. 1993 is when the pendulum started to swing back toward the Yankees, as that was the season in which George Steinbrenner was reinstated, and a rejuvenated Bombers squad finished second in the AL East (88-74) after acquiring Wade Boggs, Jimmy Key, Paul O’Neill, Jim Abbott, and Spike Owen during the previous offseason. The Mets, by contrast, finished 59-103 despite big years from Bobby Bonilla and Eddie Murray.

Holtz for UPL, the trade is 1 for 1... Lindy:

Really was such a crazy time for that franchise. Even though the championships haven't been coming at a rate the Yankee faithful expect over the last couple of decades, they're still respectable and competitive most seasons. They had become SUCH a joke for that relatively brief period...and even though the Mets didn't really do THAT much in the grand scheme back then (only making the playoffs in 1986 and 1988, and of course, only one WS appearance), they absolutely owned NY for about 6-7 years. They haven't since of course...not even close.

I think just about everyone that isn't a Sabres fan is pulling for Dallas.

Connor:

Yeah highly doubtful 🤣

I miss Santagovich. 😢

Well I am pretty sure he won't end up in Buffalo.

Weren’t we just talking about this, @Colorado Rockies 1976?

Poach away, Lindy. Please.

I didn't see every goal that he allowed, but from what I saw in Game 4, he might as well have been playing for the 2023-24 Devils...in that game he didn't much of a chance...Colorado was getting insane looks. But when you're under .870 in save% for the series and put up a .000 QS%, not exactly great optics to say that you were playing your best hockey, sorry Connor.

Agree with MD2020. I think Holtz's future in general is still a bit murky. He has a big shot but it's not terribly accurate, he's a bit slow, and he's still working on improving a deficient all-around game. I'm not saying that he CAN'T eventually put it together enough to become the sniper we all hoped, more that I don't feel like it's any lock for that to happen. He did take some steps forward last season, I will absolutely give him that. @nessus be careful about making a big deal about Sharangovich...his +/- was terrible compared to just about all of his teammates not named Huberdeau. He benefitted by getting minutes on a bad team where his shortcomings probably would've prevented him from getting the same playing time with a better and deeper team. He also was helped by a bloated shooting%...he did score 26 goals over his final 56 GP (that's a 38 goal pace over a full season), but on 19.7% shooting; he's a career 14.2% shooter overall. And Sharangovich fattening up in garbage time games is nothing new...he did that here too. I'm far from convinced that he's a perennial 30+ goal scorer from here on out...or that he'll ever have a good enough all-around game to be more than a guy who puts up goals for bad teams.

I have a feeling it's going to be one of those cases where we move him and he absolutely lights it up on another team

Holtz is gonna be moved. I think that’s something everyone should just get used to being okay with.

The one negative of the Devils being so close to New York is that they likely could never do something like this, as I’m sure they’ve quite a few fans who live on the other side of the Hudson.

I don’t see any way they can get an established goalie for just a pick(s). Even one in the top 10. It’s probably going to take a pick + prospect + NHL player. So something along the lines of Casey and Holtz/Mercer.

Goaltending is so fickle. We should absolutely go out and find an established veteran goalie, but I really don't want to sell the farm with multiple high picks and prospects to try to catch a hot goaltender. I believe Holtz ceiling is a defensive liability, 35ish goal scoring winger... bench him on the PK, but have him out there early to score the first goal. It is possible for the Devils to score first. I've seen it. And obviously, when we're down by a goal. Depending on the offer, of course, he can be traded. He isn't untouchable. But I would prefer to send a pick out instead of him.

I’m sure Rag fans are all up in their whiny feelings about this https://sny.tv/articles/rangers-hurricanes-playoff-tickets-pnc-arena-restricted-fans?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3yO-w22-sJUn7rO1vL5kxL4T19UULbhEj_CYjqm_Kxq6bvEQSKBh6EH04_aem_AeZ_Uw9RpfvOxnYIwdHuhZ5ZJFUbUNd4-bF9RZElhJ0ugvxRafGT9XUDE40ynlURrhA49dRchYMXy2onIZFmhsm2