bg. Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 (edited) hossa is lucky to be in the league. he stinks - the sooner the rangers toss him aside, the better off they'll be. Generally speaking I agree...however for whatever reason (reason is the guy has talent) Renney really likes him. Hossa had 2 goals and 3 assists in the first 49 games...then Renney puts him with Jagr and he scored 8 goals 5 assists in 15 games before getting hurt. This is a big season for Hossa. Is he is 10 point a year stiff...or is he actually a player - someone you could put with Jagr (and probably Gomez) who will score 20-25 just by keeping his stick on the ice? Either way...that is why I say he should take his qualifier, then kick the thing back to Renney so he can play with Jagr. He does that, puts up 20-25 goals...next year he makes 2.5 million. Edited July 9, 2007 by bg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMONPETEYD Posted July 9, 2007 Author Share Posted July 9, 2007 there's a huge difference and everyone knows it.hossa is lucky to be in the league. he stinks - the sooner the rangers toss him aside, the better off they'll be. I was kind of being sarcastic, but also pointing out that goals don't always matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 Generally speaking I agree...however for whatever reason (reason is the guy has talent) Renney really likes him. Hossa had 2 goals and 3 assists in the first 49 games...then Renney puts him with Jagr and he scored 8 goals 5 assists in 15 games before getting hurt. This is a big season for Hossa. Is he is 10 point a year stiff...or is he actually a player - someone you could put with Jagr (and probably Gomez) who will score 20-25 just by keeping his stick on the ice? I honestly don't see the difference between the two. Just about any moderately skilled player should be able to do that with Gomez and Jagr. Hossa has some skills but he's too slow, his shot isn't good enough, he's not a good enough passer, etc. He's what they'd call in baseball a quadruple A player. Either way...that is why I say he should take his qualifier, then kick the thing back to Renney so he can play with Jagr. He does that, puts up 20-25 goals...next year he makes 2.5 million. Hopefully for the Rangers, he does it with some other team. Marcel Hossa is waiver wire trash. The Rangers could find similar bargains to play on that line and do just as well. Anaheim did it with Chris Kunitz these past two years - I think Burke is smart enough to let him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricoche Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 this is definitely the year the rangers have the best chance if all works out well for them.. I still think it will take at least a quarter of the season for all the players to mold and if they don't get going by the all star game, its not going to happen and thats when I'd start worrying if I were a rangers fan.. the team's going to very different next year just because of the cap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueNJ97 Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 While I'm sort of interested in how this all works out for the Rangers, just because I find the cap mechanics interesting, I really don't care what they do all that much, unless they sign an RFA (not a UFA, an RFA) to an insane contract - like the offer sheet for Vanek - it doesn't impact the remaining NJ payscale that has to be dealt with this summer all that much and their cap issues are their business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestevens Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 there's a huge difference and everyone knows it.hossa is lucky to be in the league. he stinks - the sooner the rangers toss him aside, the better off they'll be. Hossa isnt that bad. He just needs a good supporting cast which isnt always easy to do, i mean if you can have Straka or Hossa with 2 big players, you put Straka. Hossa needs to show he is a playmaker or can work with the ones he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek21 Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 (edited) Thats garbage..... Isn't there another team out there that needs a goalie. How about the Crapitals!!I have not seen any report of the Rangers taking him to Arbitration. please send the link Edited July 10, 2007 by Derek21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek21 Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 I honestly don't see the difference between the two. Just about any moderately skilled player should be able to do that with Gomez and Jagr. Hossa has some skills but he's too slow, his shot isn't good enough, he's not a good enough passer, etc. He's what they'd call in baseball a quadruple A player.Hopefully for the Rangers, he does it with some other team. Marcel Hossa is waiver wire trash. The Rangers could find similar bargains to play on that line and do just as well. Anaheim did it with Chris Kunitz these past two years - I think Burke is smart enough to let him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsadvoc8 Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 Anyone ever hear of Warren Young? He put up 40 goals playing aside Mario Lemieux in 84-85. Was never successful again when he moved on. Stiffs can succeed next to big time talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek21 Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 I've heard of Rob Brown. Similar kind of player. Though you could say anyone would benefit from playing alongside No.66. The difference is I don't believe Hossa's a stiff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestevens Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 Hossa isnt a stiff, i agree. He jsut needs starpower around him to give me a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizDevil30 Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 What's wrong with a stiff? Oops, my bad. Wrong thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHICO IS GOD Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 That's because you don't want to see a report Tomm. You are worried about my team and you should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsfan26 Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 Didn't Hossa not even score one goal until like January last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsadvoc8 Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 Didn't Hossa not even score one goal until like January last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 Rob Brown wasn't quite a stiff either - he had some decent scoring seasons without Mario Lemieux. That said, Hossa just doesn't provide all that much value. He is a decent forechecker and decent backchecker - but there are lots of players around the league who could do what Marcel will end up doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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