BFett Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 No, it's still a good trade because we won the cup.Morrison for Mogs = good trade, we won the cup Souray for Malacough = great trade, we won the cup Rolston for Lemieux = awesome trade, we won the cup The object in hockey is to win the Stanley cup. When you make three signifgant deals during a season, and win the Stanley cup, you won all three deals. you can't lump all those transactions together first of all Souray and Rolsotn have done nothing compared to BreMo or AlMo. Who's to say we don't win the cup with BreMo instead of AlMo? It's not like AlMo set the playoffs on fire or won any awards or anything. the trade was a good one as long as AlMo was here, onve he left it became a bad trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGoDevils Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Mogilny deal was a good one was right up until 2 summers ago when Lou refused to give Mogilny a new contract. Lou offered him a contract. Mogilny decided to go for more money with the Leafs is all. Would Lou have offered more if he didn't disappear in the Finals? Perhaps. Mogilny is gone. Move on people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFett Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Mogilny deal was a good one was right up until 2 summers ago when Lou refused to give Mogilny a new contract. Lou offered him a contract. Mogilny decided to go for more money with the Leafs is all. Would Lou have offered more if he didn't disappear in the Finals? Perhaps. Mogilny is gone. Move on people. don't know where you got your info from but it is totalyl incorrect. Lamorillo did not offer AlMo a contract, this is even after AlMo publicly stated he would take less to remain in NJ where he wasn't counted on as being the "main guy". toronto gave him about a $500,000 raise, that is it. Lou didn't even offer the guy a contract, this is a fact If he did an dhe still left, a la Holik, then I could live with that, but that is not what happened. AlMo left NJ al la, Malakhov, Housley, Gilmour, Andreychuk, etc. and any other big name rental that Lamorillo refused to even make an offer to after their then current contracts expired. the guy cannot continue to trade away youth(Morrison, Souray, Sullivan, McCAuley, Hulse, and soon to be Commodore and Damphousse) for older players and then just let those older players walk after tehir contracts up. sooner or later its going to come back and bite us in the butt and it's only just begun to this year how would AlMo's 40+ points look on the Devils this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Ah yes, I see the purveyor of bad logic is back.. nice to have you in town, BFett. The Devils didn't have the money to sign AlMo, so they didn't. They also didn't have the desire, seeing as he decided to go through a cold streak when they needed him most. You may use the Devils' increase in budget to refute this.. but Lou will never spend the maximum he can spend.. or else he's stuck when it comes to trade time.. Lou has never made a salary dump trade, and I don't think he will for a while. Morrison had to go, so going for #89 was the perfect deal.. and it worked out. I'd love to see you judge every deal made in the NHL by your standards. The Avs must've lost the Bourque deal, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 how would AlMo's 40+ points look on the Devils this year? I don't know, but that Stanley Cup sure looks nice. I'm glad Lou made the right moves to win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFett Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 The Devils didn't have the money to sign AlMo, so they didn't. naivity at its finest. the guy got a $500,000 raise. I guess teh $45 mil offered to Holik 2 years later appeared out of thin air. They also didn't have the desire, seeing as he decided to go through a cold streak when they needed him most. along with teh rest of the entire roster Morrison had to go, so going for #89 was the perfect deal.. and it worked out. BreMo did not have to go anywhere. at teh time I loved teh trade, but you cannot trade a player of BreMo's talent and then let what you got in return walk a season and a half later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFett Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 how would AlMo's 40+ points look on the Devils this year? I don't know, but that Stanley Cup sure looks nice. I agree 100000000000000000%, it's just such a shame what might have been had BreMo or AlMo stayed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueNJ97 Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Morrison had to go, so going for #89 was the perfect deal.. and it worked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck27 Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Trading Morrison for Almo was one of Lou's better moves. Without it there is no Cup in 2000. Gomez made Morrison expandable by proving was the better player at the time, and he still is. Put Gomez between Naslund and Bertuzzi and he'd probably put up 100+ points a year. Morrison is a good player, but he's also a baby and clearly benefits from his superstar linemates. I'm glad he's gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge18 Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 The Devils didn't have the money to sign AlMo, so they didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek21 Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Beck: "Gomez made Morrison expandable by proving was the better player at the time, and he still is. Put Gomez between Naslund and Bertuzzi and he'd probably put up 100+ points a year." Pure speculation on your part. Personally, from some of the Nucks' games I've caught, Morrison plays bigger and stronger than Gomez. I don't think Gomez is as good as Mo. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGoDevils Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 You do remember that Vancouver was still paying part of Almo's current salary when we had him. That is true. So it would have been way more than just $500,000 out of Lou to sign Mogilny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Morrison is 4 years older than Gomez. Even out of college, the Devils had him in the minors for a year.. Gomez stepped right into the NHL. Gomez will end up being the better player. When the Devils get him a scorer to play with, his career will take off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARENA2005 Posted December 31, 2002 Author Share Posted December 31, 2002 What I've learned from this post: We won a Cup with AlMo. AlMo is gone but Toronto still has their head up the arses. Morrison is solid, but Mog's and the rest of the Devs have their names on the Cup. Vancouver is a force to be reckoned with this year because of Morrison. WE STILL HAVE MARTY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 Math formula for evaluating players Players still with Devils - Points divided by number of cups won equals players value. Former Devils - Points plus current salary multiplied by 5 equals players value. Players who fight with Lou - Games sat out multiplied by 5000 equals player value. Players Devils get in a trade - 30 minus the players age multiplied by 6. So as we can see Morrison is one of the top players in the NHL and Gomez stinks so we can put that arguement to rest. Also, any player the Devils get over the age of 30 is horrible. All former Devils get better as soon as they leave NJ and any player who fights with Lou is in the right because they are so valuable and Lou doesn't realize it. I'm sure there are more formulas but those are the simplest. -Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 No good ever came from speculating about what could have been. Focus on the here and now, people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Grendel Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 All former Devils get better as soon as they leave NJ How about these guy's Vadim Sharijanov? Eric Bertrand? Steve Brule? Mike Commodor? Pierre Dagenais? Andreas Salomonsson? Their all doing much better now? Yeah right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 MG, he was being sarcastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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