LOULAM1 Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 The death penalty actually cost just as much or more then it dose to imprison them for life. ? explain and get some stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senators Advocate Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Some people are just oxygen thieves and do not deserve to live. They're called oil companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGoDevils Posted December 15, 2007 Author Share Posted December 15, 2007 If an age of CSI tech, balistics, DNA, "Big Brother" cameras, and witnesses all place a person at the scene of a horrible slaughter, I think I'd have no worry about a suspects "innocence" on Death Row. If DNA has cleared those mistakenly convicted in the past, then it can also be the reason to keep the death penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Leeds Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 They're called oil companies. Where would you be without them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 If an age of CSI tech, balistics, DNA, "Big Brother" cameras, and witnesses all place a person at the scene of a horrible slaughter, I think I'd have no worry about a suspects "innocence" on Death Row.If DNA has cleared those mistakenly convicted in the past, then it can also be the reason to keep the death penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepperkorn Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 The whole thing is so weird... it's all so awful. Last month the guy on death row in texas was pardoned. He gets to live... BUT the past I guess 15-20 years he's been on death row -- he has no real jail experience. He's now going into regular jail society -- which seems pretty brutal to me. I was happy for him but felt like his trouble was just begining. These guys that rape and murder little girls -- they admit it - I feel like their lives have no value - part of me wants to just cull them like a bad pitbull. It's no consolation - it's not vengance - nothing brings back the murdered - it's just cleaning up. Like I always say Dead Man Walking sort of made me feel like the death penalty may be a good thing. The criminal had no remorse, refused all accountability, UNTIL he was on his death bed. He had the be on the bed, needle in arm before he would accept accountability. I felt like his life was a success, he died with honor. he never would have had that integrity without going through the actual death. I admit that's me liking life to be a nice story -- though I know it's more than just that. I don't approve of the death penalty - and I dont approve of abortion. But I don't support the abolition of either I did vote that I'm glad NJ got rid of it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Leeds Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 As Jimmy would be pleased to tell you, real life is nothing like a CSI episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilish34 Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 I don't approve of the death penalty - and I dont approve of abortion. But I don't support the abolition of either I did vote that I'm glad NJ got rid of it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Leeds Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 People "claim" that the death penalty is not a deterrent. WHO CARES. It's a punishment and a deserved one for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oofrostonoo Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 People "claim" that the death penalty is not a deterrent.WHO CARES. It's a punishment and a deserved one for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilish34 Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 I would rather die than live in prison the rest of my life. I think they should make prisons sh!ttier however. Perhaps no privlages for those serving life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestevens Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 ? explain and get some stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilish34 Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 http://www.deathpenalty.org/index.php?pid=cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestevens Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 http://www.fnsa.org/v1n1/dieter1.html Theres another. There are probably thousands going to each side of the argument. The death penalty hasnt been used in decades, its expensive so whats the point of keeping the law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsfan26 Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 People "claim" that the death penalty is not a deterrent.WHO CARES. It's a punishment and a deserved one for some. I agree 100%. That's like saying 20-game suspensions aren't stopping the Flyers from knocking people out so we might as well just suspend them for 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comandante Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 In which way does the death Penalty serve a purpose? It's an uneffective method.. I'm reliefed that the result went yes.. And terrefied that the supporters of the deat-penalty was that high :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Leeds Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 In which way does the death Penalty serve a purpose? It's an uneffective method.. I'm reliefed that the result went yes.. And terrefied that the supporters of the deat-penalty was that high :S Terrified. You scare easy. It's serves it purpose as punishment. And it's quite effective when the perp's dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diablo Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Lets see - 3 square meals a day - free cable and dvd rental - free health and dental insurance - free gym and workout facilities - Saturday night dates (if you're not particular) - free housing - free clothing - free bedding - possibilty of fan mail and marriage proposals from various sources - the perks are unending... Sweet ! Not bad for murdering someone. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nature's Minister Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 It's not a deterrent. Factors such as extreme poverty, emotional distress, desperation, mental illness, drug addiction, etc. will often prevent the murderer from rationally considering the ramifications of his decision. Am I likely to ever murder another human being? But I've never had to eat out of a dumpster or risk starvation, either. Nor do I have an insatiable heroin addiction to feed. Not every killer is a manifestation of Rashkolnikov. Furthermore, the potential for the execution of innocent people is far too great. There are numerous instances where people have been sent to death row only to have new evidence exonerate them. There are also cases where innocent men have died. So in its current incarnation, I cannot agree with the death penalty. I can't, however, disagree that there are some people who deserve to die. There are some people who are monsters, plain and simple. But can you really risk executing an innocent, or a person who, after rehabilitation, could one day contribute to society? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilish34 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 It's not a deterrent. Factors such as extreme poverty, emotional distress, desperation, mental illness, drug addiction, etc. will often prevent the murderer from rationally considering the ramifications of his decision. Am I likely to ever murder another human being? But I've never had to eat out of a dumpster or risk starvation, either. Nor do I have an insatiable heroin addiction to feed. Not every killer is a manifestation of Rashkolnikov. Furthermore, the potential for the execution of innocent people is far too great. There are numerous instances where people have been sent to death row only to have new evidence exonerate them. There are also cases where innocent men have died. So in its current incarnation, I cannot agree with the death penalty. I can't, however, disagree that there are some people who deserve to die. There are some people who are monsters, plain and simple. But can you really risk executing an innocent, or a person who, after rehabilitation, could one day contribute to society? This is none the less a decision that should of been left to the people not the politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGoDevils Posted December 18, 2007 Author Share Posted December 18, 2007 So, New Jersey can put down a dog that bites people but not a person who willfully murders an innocent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oofrostonoo Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Lets see - 3 square meals a day - free cable and dvd rental - free health and dental insurance - free gym and workout facilities - Saturday night dates (if you're not particular) - free housing - free clothing - free bedding - possibilty of fan mail and marriage proposals from various sources - the perks are unending...Sweet ! Not bad for murdering someone. . You forgot getting ass raped. If your a fan of that this place if for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camden28 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 So, New Jersey can put down a dog that bites people but not a person who willfully murders an innocent. Isn't every sperm sacred? even convicts have a right to life according to the National Right to Life lobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comandante Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 (edited) Terrified.You scare easy. It's serves it purpose as punishment. And it's quite effective when the perp's dead. Terrified was a strong word i guess but I hope you get my point! There are a hole lot of disadvantages while there isn't that much positive to say about death penalty! My opinion is that the state never, NEVER, shall be able to do the same as the prosecuted once did, KILL... And that bullsh!t about scaring people so that they don't kill.. that's really naive, Those people who can be possible murders won't be hindered by the fact that they could get death penalty.. The states/poeples/countries with/supporting death penalty should glance at the reason why people kill eachother for once.. Instead of triyng to put tough against tough.. It only makes it worse. Look at Texas.. They've executed alot througout the years.. Do they manage to put the crimes down? Don't think so.. They've got sky high statestics! Edited December 18, 2007 by Comandante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptynet Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 It shouldnt be done away with...it should be used more frequently. The problem is the appeal process SLOWS everything down. Prisons are over crowded as it is now, it's costs alot to keep someone in prison who is a threat to society...why keep them around. Maybe they should let some corrections officers let the general public know just how sick some of these people are and then let them make a decision. I have alot of friends who are CO's...some of the stories they tell me about inmates and what they do to get a good rep is crazy, but you wont hear about it in the papers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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