MantaRay Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 If a labor deal isn't reached by March, Brown is a RFA and under contract to the Dolphins for another season at (I believe) $5 mil. If they do strike a labor deal, then he would be a UFA. And considering Ricky is 32 years old and was beginning to wear down towards the end of the season- not to mention the fact that he has already announced that 2010 will be his last season before retiring- chances are Ronnie is going nowhere. Parcells isn't going to let Brown go anywhere, but I could see the Fins draft another RB as Ricky is slowing down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi, I'm VALUE! Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Parcells isn't going to let Brown go anywhere, but I could see the Fins draft another RB as Ricky is slowing down. I don't know about that. In limited time, both Cobbs and Hilliard have done very well for Miami. If Cobbs comes back healthy I can see them standing pat with those three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 I don't know about that. In limited time, both Cobbs and Hilliard have done very well for Miami. If Cobbs comes back healthy I can see them standing pat with those three. Cobbs is tiny and doesn't give the Dolphins the kind of power that Brown or Williams does. Hillard from what I see lacks the speed of Brown. I wouldn't be surprised if the Dolphins look at a RB in the first or second round in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezer34 Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 ...how sad is it that Vincent Jackson has more TD receptions this season, than: Braylon Edwards.. Jericho Cotchery.. Brad Smith.. David Clowney (the entire Jets WR corps) all have combined? Open up the ball through the air this Sunday. SD is going to be expecting the running game to be used by the Jets (and that doesn't mean give up on the ground) but don't overuse it. Surprise them, throw the ball 20+ times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Since the Leon Washington injury and the fact that Sanchez is a rookie pretty much forces the Jets to be a run first offense and with that O--Line why wouldn't they be. If SD had a running game Jackson would have less catches too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ThreeCups Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 That is hilarious. I thought he was deserving of Defensive POY. He could never put up the flashy stats that Woodson did because the opposition will never throw to his side of the field enough times to give him the chance to. SHUTDOWN CORNER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeCups Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Jim Rome's show is echoing exactly what I said earlier today about Revis... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Jim Rome's show is echoing exactly what I said earlier today about Revis... Who is Jim Rome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnderDogX Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 ^ of "Rome is Burning" on ESPN....an analyst... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeCups Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Rome himself was playing Devils Advocate and seemed to side with the Woodson pick, and that Revis will get his in the future. One of his guest was adamant that Revis deserved Defensive POY and could not post the numbers Woodson does because no QBs try to test him. I will officially predict now: 2010 NFL DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR: DARRELLE REVIS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Rome himself was playing Devils Advocate and seemed to side with the Woodson pick, and that Revis will get his in the future. One of his guest was adamant that Revis deserved Defensive POY and could not post the numbers Woodson does because no QBs try to test him. I will officially predict now: 2010 NFL DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR: DARRELLE REVIS Aside from NFL Gameday and NFL Live I don't watch ANYTHING on espn. That being said I loved Rex Ryans comments on the Revis rip-off: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted January 15, 2010 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 I've love to ask Rex Ryan how much Charles Woodson film HE watched to say that Revis was that much better then him at this point.... it's a silly typical overblown Ryan comment that people use to get excited like poor man's Viagra instead of wondering on the validity of the baseless and dumb statement yes it's cute and funny :blahblah:, but what's he gonna back it up with really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 (edited) You honestly think Woodson's a better shutdown corner? He makes some big plays fine, but Revis has shut down basically every all-pro receiver in the league this year and does play man on man much of the time. Moss twice, TO twice, Ochocinco twice, Andre Johnson, Colston, Reggie Wayne, Roddy White, Steve Smith the original, none of these guys did much of anything. I don't think Woodson has that on his resume, the only quality receivers in that division all play on Minnesota and the Vikings skunked the Packer defense twice. Face it, you've been pimping the Packer defense all year and they came up small in the biggest spots (two Viking games and the playoffs). Besides Rex's dig is true, the Packers gave up like five TD's passing as a team last week and we've given up eight all season. Edited January 15, 2010 by Hasan4978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted January 15, 2010 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 You honestly think Woodson's a better shutdown corner? He makes some big plays fine, but Revis has shut down basically every all-pro receiver in the league this year and does play man on man much of the time. I don't think Woodson has that on his resume, the only quality receivers in that division all play on Minnesota and the Vikings skunked the Packer defense twice. Face it, you've been pimping the Packer defense all year and they came up small in the biggest spots (two Viking games and the playoffs). Besides Rex's dig is true, the Packers gave up like five TD's passing as a team last week and we've given up eight all season. I'm not asking that I'm asking if mister bravado has anything to back his claims besides his big mouth?? it's the problem with being all bark and no bite... now then you get a good bite in but no one takes it seriously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeCups Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 I'm not asking that I'm asking if mister bravado has anything to back his claims besides his big mouth?? it's the problem with being all bark and no bite... now then you get a good bite in but no one takes it seriously Anything to back what claims? Look at the numbers for the opposition's best receiver week after week. They ain't pretty.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted January 15, 2010 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 Aside from NFL Gameday and NFL Live I don't watch ANYTHING on espn. That being said I loved Rex Ryans comments on the Revis rip-off: "I wasn't going to comment on it, but I would like to congratulate the people that voted for Darrelle Revis. These guys obviously really know the game. And you've got to look at all the numbers, not just a number about this, or this stat or that stat." Ryan sarcastically proclaimed, "A number I think is interesting would be eight. And no, that's not the amount of touchdown passes Green Bay gave up against Arizona. That is the number of touchdown passes we gave up all season. And the biggest reason for that is Darrelle Revis." Anything to back what claims? Look at the numbers for the opposition's best receiver week after week. They ain't pretty.... so your coach says don't go by stats and you back the guy by using stats?? Whattttt??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeCups Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 so your coach says don't go by stats and you back the guy by using stats?? Whattttt??? I am NOT a Jets fan. RR is NOT my coach. I am saying instead of using Revis' stats, use the LACK of stats by the guys he is covering. He cannot post the glamorous numbers that Woodson does because he simply does not get enough opportunities. QBs don't want to throw anywhere near him. He is the best corner in the league HANDS DOWN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 I am NOT a Jets fan. RR is NOT my coach. I am saying instead of using Revis' stats, use the LACK of stats by the guys he is covering. He cannot post the glamorous numbers that Woodson does because he simply does not get enough opportunities. QBs don't want to throw anywhere near him. He is the best corner in the league HANDS DOWN. +1 Woodson is good, but Revis is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted January 15, 2010 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 you're not reading my point I'm asking if coach fat boy doesn't want to base on stats AND he's in no way gonna have the time to go over the game film of each and every play Woodson makes or is in on, how in the blue hell does he have ANY basis to open his big, stupid mouth?? it's the problem when you talk as big as he does (and the only thing bigger then his mouth is his gut, which is ironically mouth-related)... even when you DO say something valid... you've drowned it out in such a pool of sh!t it's hard to take serious!!! There's a DB in Oakland who's pretty damn good too ya know..... My point was Ryan is NOT QUALIFIED to asses the defensive POY based on the simple fact his job is to focus on two teams... his and his opponent's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaneykoIsGod Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Rome himself was playing Devils Advocate and seemed to side with the Woodson pick, and that Revis will get his in the future. One of his guest was adamant that Revis deserved Defensive POY and could not post the numbers Woodson does because no QBs try to test him. I will officially predict now: 2010 NFL DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR: DARRELLE REVIS I've heard this said about 1,000 times on WFAN lately, but just read something that, unless I'd reading it incorrectly, seems to contradict that statement: Stats Inc. tracked every pass attempt during the season and found Revis was targeted 108 times. Only four cornerbacks were thrown at more frequently: Arizona's Bryant McFadden (113), Pittsburgh's Ike Taylor (110), Arizona's Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (109) and Cincinnati's Johnathan Joseph (109). http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/9203/versus-revis-all-wrs-in-elimination-game The whole "QBs don't throw at Revis" argument doesn't seem to actually hold up, statistically speaking. That said ... dude is insanely good. And CRASH, Rex is Rex. The guy, week after week, has been doing nothing but talking up his players and team. It's his motivational tactic, building an "Us Against Them" kind of attitude, and so far it's working. I wouldn't look too far into it as a slight against Woodson or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeCups Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 (edited) I've heard this said about 1,000 times on WFAN lately, but just read something that, unless I'd reading it incorrectly, seems to contradict that statement: http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/9203/versus-revis-all-wrs-in-elimination-game The whole "QBs don't throw at Revis" argument doesn't seem to actually hold up, statistically speaking. That said ... dude is insanely good. And CRASH, Rex is Rex. The guy, week after week, has been doing nothing but talking up his players and team. It's his motivational tactic, building an "Us Against Them" kind of attitude, and so far it's working. I wouldn't look too far into it as a slight against Woodson or anything. Great article DIG. Everytime I have watched the Jets it seems as you don't hear too much about Revis/see him because he is quietly shutting down the other team's best guy. With that being said, I was SHOCKED to read the stat of how many times he was targeted. I have to think that a good amount of the balls being thrown towards him are going to be in a spot where "only his receiver can catch it" and that would be by making an unbelievable play. The QBs on opposing teams have to obviously be alot more careful when balls are thrown to a receiver covered by Revis. Other stats that were interesting in the article: "He led the NFL in passes defensed." The one most impressive to me is the ridiculous numbers for his gameday battle opponents: "Randy Moss twice, Terrell Owens twice, Ochocinco twice, Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Marques Colston, Steve Smith, Roddy White, Mike Sims-Walker ... They averaged 2.9 receptions and 26.4 yards against Revis." To me, that is the "checkmate" so to speak. I would LOVE to see any other DB in the league hold these ELITE receivers to those paltry numbers. Everything aside, if my team could get one defensive player in the NFL, my pick is WITHOUT A DOUBT/SLIGHTEST BIT OF HESITATION: DARRELLE REVIS. EDIT: CRASH: I do not take anything Rex says seriously. He said the Jets should be the FAVORITE to win the whole thing! He also handed a schedule to his players that went through the Super Bowl and included a parade! He is off his rocker! Edited January 15, 2010 by ThreeCups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaneykoIsGod Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 (edited) Great article DIG. Everytime I have watched the Jets it seems as you don't hear too much about Revis/see him because he is quietly shutting down the other team's best guy. With that being said, I was SHOCKED to read the stat of how many times he was targeted. I have to think that a good amount of the balls being thrown towards him are going to be in a spot where "only his receiver can catch it" and that would be by making an unbelievable play. The QBs on opposing teams have to obviously be alot more careful when balls are thrown to a receiver covered by Revis. Because I'm bored, here are some more Revis numbers: Times thrown to - 108 Passes defended - 37 Interceptions - 6 Receptions - 32 Other - 33 Revis defended more passes than the WRs he covered had receptions. I don't know what the league average is, but that seems pretty nuts to me. That "other" number could be a bunch of things ... dropped balls, bad throws, whatever. But, looking at the numbers, it looks like if you threw toward Revis you had about a 30% chance it would actually get caught. Also nuts. Jeez ... why didn't I like math this much when I was in school? Edit: Disregard all of that. I added up the receiving stats against Revis from the graph in that ESPN article before realizing it was only for 11 games. Whoops! Edited January 15, 2010 by DaneykoIsGod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 you're not reading my point I'm asking if coach fat boy doesn't want to base on stats AND he's in no way gonna have the time to go over the game film of each and every play Woodson makes or is in on, how in the blue hell does he have ANY basis to open his big, stupid mouth?? it's the problem when you talk as big as he does (and the only thing bigger then his mouth is his gut, which is ironically mouth-related)... even when you DO say something valid... you've drowned it out in such a pool of sh!t it's hard to take serious!!! There's a DB in Oakland who's pretty damn good too ya know..... My point was Ryan is NOT QUALIFIED to asses the defensive POY based on the simple fact his job is to focus on two teams... his and his opponent's The guy is a defensive genius, his dad built the 46 defense, he grew up on football---HE KNOWS THE GAME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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