Jas0nMacIsaac Posted September 27, 2003 Author Share Posted September 27, 2003 Can I have an example to an equation with 4 unknows, I may be thinking of something differnt then you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammyk Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 Math only makes sense to me if it's accomplishing something If I think of it as numbers I'm screwed So what you're saying is you're better at Physics than Calculus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nieuwy25 Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 What was Morrow, in his first year with Dallas when they won the cup, It was a reduced role but Rookies give life to a team, Spezza almost beat us out last year. Morrow wasn't on the Cup team. 2000 was his rookie year, and he had a good year on a team that was woefully short on talented/healthy wingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanity_gallops Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 ...Rookies give life to a team, Spezza almost beat us out last year. I personally disagree here. Spezza really didn't beat us out last year. He performed well in one game when the Devils had not had a look at him previously... check out his performance in Game 7 when the Devils D knew to key in on him and not just take him for granted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted September 27, 2003 Author Share Posted September 27, 2003 Did you ewxpect him to lead the team by himself, thats asking alot from anyone on the planet except fot Lemieux or Forsberg. Hossa, Havlet, adn Alfie have to step it up in those big games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weekes Head Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 You kinda just cancelled yourself out there...first you say that he almost single handidly beat us, and then you say he couldn't lead the team by himself? Hm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted September 27, 2003 Author Share Posted September 27, 2003 I meant he was one of the big reasons that they almost beat us, expecting him to get 4 points in game 7 just isn't fair. The guy is amazing and changed the series to make it a series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weekes Head Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 It was a series before he even made an impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek21 Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 I personally disagree here. Spezza really didn't beat us out last year. He performed well in one game when the Devils had not had a look at him previously... check out his performance in Game 7 when the Devils D knew to key in on him and not just take him for granted.Of course, it's hard for a player to beat a team when he only got into 3 games. However, I disagree with you on Game 7. In his limited ice-time, Spezza's line buzzed during portions of that game. You could see the instincts he has. I think Spezza is going to have a big year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 Watch Games 6 and 7 again, you'll not only see Spezza make bad decisions with the puck, you'll see him unwilling to sacrifice the body to make plays as well. Bottom line, he wasn't ready. Martin only left him in because he did well in Game 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepperkorn Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 Math only makes sense to me if it's accomplishing something If I think of it as numbers I'm screwed So what you're saying is you're better at Physics than Calculus? hardy har har... that's the second time you've made me write that sammy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted September 27, 2003 Author Share Posted September 27, 2003 Spezza is either going to be #1 line center or #2 line center with Alfi or Hossa. I expect over 55 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted September 27, 2003 Author Share Posted September 27, 2003 Spezza bulks up, impresses Ottawa teammates OTTAWA -- For every goal Jason Spezza scores this season, credit Maple Leafs forward Gary Roberts with an assist. When Spezza arrived at the Ottawa Senators' training camp several weeks ago, his teammates discovered the stringbean had bulked up during the summer. The kid obviously was taking his vitamins. "He is in much better shape overall," Senators captain Daniel Alfredsson said. "He's a lot stronger ... he looks good." Spezza, 20, credits his newfound physique to hours of workouts at Station Seven Reebok, the downtown Toronto gym opened by Roberts. And on those days when the muscles ached, Spezza only had to glance at the well-known faces scattered around the facility to regain his motivation. "Gary, Doug Gilmour, Jeff O'Neill, Chris Gratton, Tie Domi ... there were a ton of NHL guys there training," Spezza said yesterday. "And the trainer I worked with, Dave Ablack, was just unbelievable." A number of tests conducted on Spezza by the Sens early in camp certainly made coach Jacques Martin a believer. The results indicated Spezza had made vast improvements in both strength and quickness. A year ago, Martin was pelted with criticism for shipping Spezza to the minors to start the season. Even Don Cherry got into the act, questioning the logic of not keeping the kid with the parent club. There is no such debate this time around. Spezza, barring injury, will be a major cog in the Sens' arsenal when the regular season opens in two weeks. "The bottom line is, I came to a good hockey club when I came here," Spezza said. "I didn't want to be cut but it made me a better person and a better player." Spezza's coming-out party occurred against the New Jersey Devils in Game 5 of the Eastern Conference final. Playing in his first playoff game, Spezza assisted on the winning goal and then produced the insurance marker as the Sens staved off elimination. He instantly became a media darling in Ottawa, holding interview sessions in which reporters were packed three deep. "Obviously that was a great game for me," Spezza said. "But playing in the last 10 games of the regular season is where I really got a lot of confidence. "I don't think all the hype that follows me bugs me. I expect more out of myself than anyone else does, that's for sure." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe B Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 you don't see this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe B Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 "The bottom line is, I came to a good hockey club when I came here," Spezza said. "I didn't want to be cut but it made me a better person and a better player." I think that quote is what many people have been saying here when talking about not putting prospects in the bigs too early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted September 27, 2003 Author Share Posted September 27, 2003 I don't care is Martin still thinks he did the right decision, I agree with grapes that he should have made the team las year for the full season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weekes Head Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 You're not a believer in actual development, are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheeps Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 I don't care is Martin still thinks he did the right decision, I agree with grapes that he should have made the team las year for the full season. Don't believe everything Cherry says, though. I love him, but man sometimes he can be an idiot, he jumps to conclusions. He's very quick to jump on the ship of a young player and claim they'll be the next Gretzky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted September 27, 2003 Author Share Posted September 27, 2003 I still think he should have been playing, I think he would have done a better job then Bonk last year. I don't know why they havn't traded Bonk yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 You DON'T put rookies in pressure situations. Spezza choked after his game 5 "coming out". He blew two open nets and showed no tenacity in the final two games. If they have to, they will probably deal Todd White, since White is nowhere near Spezza in terms of skill. Spezza is still behind White and Bonk on the depth chart. He is still 20 years old. There is plenty of time for him to develop. The Senators organization has learned this the hard way. Radek Bonk took YEARS to develop, and still isn't the player they thought he could be. They didn't give him any time in the minors, and if the team weren't so awful in the mid 90s, he would've been dealt from Ottawa a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted September 27, 2003 Author Share Posted September 27, 2003 Oh no, he didn't score, I guess Gomez won't be ready for the NHL unill he is 32 or something. Spezza is a playmaker not a goal scorer, that isn't choking. He didn't give up any goals which was the most important thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 Believe what you want. As I have said multiple times in this thread, you will be continually baffled by the decisions of managements around the NHL until you understand the developmental process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted September 28, 2003 Author Share Posted September 28, 2003 I understand it, players with faults in their game like consistancy, confidence, size, defensive liabilities, unseasoned plays all go to the AHL, Parise doesn't need any of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanity_gallops Posted September 28, 2003 Share Posted September 28, 2003 Hm, this thread and debate obviously isn't going anywhere. To each his own, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weekes Head Posted September 28, 2003 Share Posted September 28, 2003 all that damn math, giggy. its just ruined everythin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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