SC Devs Fan Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 http://www.ottawasun.com/Sports/Senators/2...141231-sun.html Time flies, except at Continental Airlines Arena, apparently. The Senators said they got burned by a timekeeper's slow finger at the end of the first period in Game 2 in East Rutherford, allowing New Jersey's Sergei Brylin to score with .2 of a second left in the period to give the Devils a 2-0 lead. The Senators wound up losing the game, 3-2 in double overtime, to tie the series 1-1 heading into Game 3 tonight at Scotiabank Place. Senators coach Bryan Murray said the timekeeper was slow starting the clock on a faceoff in the Ottawa zone with 2.7 seconds left, slow by at least half a second by the Senators' reckoning. From their point of view, the buzzer should have gone before the puck entered the net. REFEREE CALLED OVER "We knew immediately that the clock didn't start. That's why I called the referee over. Basically what the referee told me was there was an allowance for human error and that's what happened," said Murray. "We can't do anything about it. The guy didn't start the clock. That's the bottom line. He didn't start the clock right away and they scored on it." The off-ice officials were from New Jersey. The NHL used to move its off-ice officials in from other cities for the playoffs, but stopped the practice last year. After the puck was dropped, there was a scramble between Ottawa's Jason Spezza and Brylin. Spezza dropped down, Brylin stepped around and snapped a shot by Senators goaltender Ray Emery, who looked like he got caught napping on the play. "It's kind of a fishy one," said Spezza. "I had enough time to tie him up and go down on my knees. He still found time to get the shot off in 2.7 seconds. We don't feel like they started the clock on time. That's the breaks, I guess, in hockey. You don't see those things happen very often." The Devils, as you might expect, just shrugged their shoulders. 'PLAY TO THE BUZZER' "I wasn't thinking about that," said Brylin when asked about the timing of the play. "Anyway, you play to the buzzer." Exactly. Devils coach and GM Lou Lamoriello said human error is always going to be part of the equation. "If you can come up with any suggestion (for a better system), I'd like to hear it because it's a human hand that's dropping the puck and a human hand that's putting the clock on ... if there's a better way of doing it, I don't have the answer right now." Murray conceded it was a good shot by Brylin, but wondered if there shouldn't be a better way of making sure the clock is accurate. "They got a great shot off. Things do happen in hockey. I say that all the time. We complain and moan about it. Hockey is a game where you hit the post or it goes in the net or you start the clock a fraction late, whatever it may be," he said. "We understand you live with that, but probably we shouldn't be worrying about goal judges anymore. We should be worried about timers and people of that nature and having the technology to know when things take place. "It probably happens quite often. You just don't get goals scored on them. "That doesn't mean I have to accept it, but that's the way it is." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJD Jester Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 I'm sure Murray would be just as outraged if Emery had made the save. <JESTER> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hattrick Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 I'm sure Murray would be just as outraged if Emery had made the save.<JESTER> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 it would be really keen of Murray if he had noticed that a HALF SECOND EXTRA ticked off after the whistle on the Langenbrunner shot that lead to the whistle BEFORE the goal... I was busy screaming about that until brylin scored..... Murray can dine on my left nut and stop being a bitch about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJD Jester Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 Murray can dine on my left nut and stop being a bitch about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msweet Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hattrick Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravisZajac Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 We knew immediately that the clock didn't start. That's why I called the referee over. Basically what the referee told me was there was an allowance for human error and that's what happened," said Murray. "We can't do anything about it. The guy didn't start the clock. That's the bottom line. He didn't start the clock right away and they scored on it." ........................What ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 Crasher's saving his right one for either Tom Renney or Lindy Ruff...I'm not even going to get into what he's doing for the Finals. <JESTER> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizDevil30 Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 And the NHL admits that a goal was scored. I don't remember the exact line, but we all remember 2003. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 (edited) I don't remember the exact line, but we all remember 2003. Edited April 30, 2007 by CRASHER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hattrick Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 And the NHL admits that a goal was scored.I don't remember the exact line, but we all remember 2003. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Leeds Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 it would be really keen of Murray if he had noticed that a HALF SECOND EXTRA ticked off after the whistle on the Langenbrunner shot that lead to the whistle BEFORE the goal... I was busy screaming about that until brylin scored..... Murray can dine on my left nut and stop being a bitch about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatansDevils Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 Ahhhh EXCUSES, EXCUSES, EXCUSES. Murray should just shut up and take the loss. Really sounds dumb when you make such an excuse like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
langsgirl Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 (edited) it would be really keen of Murray if he had noticed that a HALF SECOND EXTRA ticked off after the whistle on the Langenbrunner shot that lead to the whistle BEFORE the goal... I was busy screaming about that until brylin scored..... Murray can dine on my left nut and stop being a bitch about it Edited April 30, 2007 by langsgirl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralous Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 This is really a non issue. If Brylin's goal didn't count the Senators would have never have the goalie pulled and scored their second. The only difference is that it would have gone into OT 1-1 instead of 2-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaDevsFan Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 (edited) it would be really keen of Murray if he had noticed that a HALF SECOND EXTRA ticked off after the whistle on the Langenbrunner shot that lead to the whistle BEFORE the goal... I was busy screaming about that until brylin scored..... Murray can dine on my left nut and stop being a bitch about it Edited April 30, 2007 by PaDevsFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrdevil Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 Murray sounds like a guy who has never been past hte second round of the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptynet Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 (edited) it would be really keen of Murray if he had noticed that a HALF SECOND EXTRA ticked off after the whistle on the Langenbrunner shot that lead to the whistle BEFORE the goal... I was busy screaming about that until brylin scored..... Murray can dine on my left nut and stop being a bitch about it Edited April 30, 2007 by emptynet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagwood Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 And if the skate were on the other foot.... I could only imagine the "Oh Canada" conspiracy remarks coming out of the US cities everywhere... Murray has a point...If video review is still a useless way to determine if goals are good or not, and that "human error" is taken into account, then get rid of the process alltogether. I mean isn't that the exact reason the Video review was brought in to begin with? To review goals that Refs may have missed, or to disallow them based on kicking motions that the Refs didn't see to start with? It seems to be a double standard that we as fans bitch about concerning the Refs now anyway. As for the goal itself, that's not the issue...the failure of video review is the problem despite the fact a Coach brought up the issue before the Ref even made his way to the Goal Judge and Phone. And yes, Murray does chirp a lot but at least he doesn't throw Water Bottles on the bench and stuff into the crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 And if the skate were on the other foot....I could only imagine the "Oh Canada" conspiracy remarks coming out of the US cities everywhere... Murray has a point...If video review is still a useless way to determine if goals are good or not, and that "human error" is taken into account, then get rid of the process alltogether. I mean isn't that the exact reason the Video review was brought in to begin with? To review goals that Refs may have missed, or to disallow them based on kicking motions that the Refs didn't see to start with? It seems to be a double standard that we as fans bitch about concerning the Refs now anyway. As for the goal itself, that's not the issue...the failure of video review is the problem despite the fact a Coach brought up the issue before the Ref even made his way to the Goal Judge and Phone. And yes, Murray does chirp a lot but at least he doesn't throw Water Bottles on the bench and stuff into the crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueNJ97 Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 And if the skate were on the other foot....I could only imagine the "Oh Canada" conspiracy remarks coming out of the US cities everywhere... Murray has a point...If video review is still a useless way to determine if goals are good or not, and that "human error" is taken into account, then get rid of the process alltogether. I mean isn't that the exact reason the Video review was brought in to begin with? To review goals that Refs may have missed, or to disallow them based on kicking motions that the Refs didn't see to start with? It seems to be a double standard that we as fans bitch about concerning the Refs now anyway. As for the goal itself, that's not the issue...the failure of video review is the problem despite the fact a Coach brought up the issue before the Ref even made his way to the Goal Judge and Phone. And yes, Murray does chirp a lot but at least he doesn't throw Water Bottles on the bench and stuff into the crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagwood Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 and if they go and replay the puck drop I am assuming they will go back and miss the .5 seconds missed on the Langenbrunner shot and add that and we are back where we are right??these things do even out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueNJ97 Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 But I'm also annoyed because all WFAN did on hockey now was whine about the Sabres getting all the calls against the Rangers and Islanders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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