Sharifijanov2099 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I say all Gionta rumors go into a unified thread. I think most people are tired of seeing the same unfounded (Eklundian) rumors over and over again about Brian Gionta, rumored to be a Canuck for what seems like years. Personally, knowing NJ, doing this well, they'd rather lose him for nothing rather than upset chemistry going into the playoffs. Doesn't make any sense to trade a guy as a salary dump when you're a contender. Only makes sense if they're upgrading somehow in a deficient area, but that's not generally the theme of Gionta rumors. A more interesting (and likely) rumor will be how NJ resolves having 3 goaltenders. Looks to me like they have to trade Weekes. I'd assume for something like a draft pick, but probably not higher than 3rd round, but I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 (edited) the devils can easily carry three goalies - when brodeur comes back, they can send leach, brookbank, or pandolfo to the minors to keep the third one on the roster. if brodeur comes back after the trade deadline, rosters expand then and so the devils won't even need to do that. kevin weekes isn't going to draw much interest in trade, i'd be surprised if the devils could get a 4th round pick for him. Edited February 2, 2009 by Triumph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devils26 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 the devils can easily carry three goalies - when brodeur comes back, they can send leach, brookbank, or pandolfo to the minors to keep the third one on the roster. if brodeur comes back after the trade deadline, rosters expand then and so the devils won't even need to do that. kevin weekes isn't going to draw much interest in trade, i'd be surprised if the devils could get a 4th round pick for him. They can, but why would they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsrule33 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 (edited) but clemmer can. and why keep clemmer with Marty? Weekesie is a perfectly capable backup, and Clemmer could land us something nice, like a 2nd (or maybe a 1st if anyone gets desperate) round pick. Who needs Scott Clemmensen right now, and would dare give a 1st or a 2nd for him. Huet went for a 2nd last year, but the Caps needed more goaltending to compete down the stretch and into the playoffs. GMs around the league aren't jumping to get a goalie who has benefited immensely from the system. Teams give up a 1st round pick for guys like Hossa, and Bouwmeester. Edited February 2, 2009 by devilsrule33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Who needs Scott Clemmensen right now, and would dare give a 1st or a 2nd for him. Huet went for a 2nd last year, but the Caps needed more goaltending to compete down the stretch and into the playoffs.GMs around the league aren't jumping to get a goalie who has benefited immensely from the system. Teams give up a 1st round pick for guys like Hossa, and Bouwmeester. the comparison is Dwayne Roloson - both in career arc and what was given up to get them at the deadline. The Oilers gave up a 1st to get him in 2006, but the Oilers have never been known to be prudent. The fact is that goaltending has decreased significantly in value between then and now in my view. And, fwiw, the Capitals shipped Montreal a 2009 2nd round pick, which is worth significantly less than a 2008 pick - for 1 year you have no asset at all. why would they, 26? in case brodeur gets re-injured or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the cyknus Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 gionta thread or goalie tandem thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilNurn Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Guarantee we don't trade Weekes, Clemmensen or Gionta this year before the deadline. If we trade anything/one, it's gonna involve D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaneykoIsGod Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 History has proven that Lou won't trade a guy if he thinks the player in question is key to team chemistry when they are contenders (see also: Scott Gomez). Let Єklund (2.3% accurate) (2.3% accurate) and those peckers at the Ottawa Sun make up all the rumors they want ... Gio ain't going anywhere. Clemmer, on the other hand, is a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Pride 26 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Lou doesn't trade players for picks; he trades picks for players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prucenterrules Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Yeah Lou will do what is gonna help the team win and thats all I care about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Clemmer, on the other hand, is a possibility. I suppose anything's possible, but if we win the Cup, I want Clemmensen carrying it. And that's all I have to say about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfsharkalligatorhalfman Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Clemmenson is worse than Huet, no one is dumb enough to trade a 2nd for him. Besides I'd rather have him the rest of year in case Broduer retweaks his injury. I think Weekes will be traded for absolutely anything or waived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CADevilsFan Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 but clemmer can. and why keep clemmer with Marty? I get nervous about statements like this. Granted, I would love to be wrong but, what happens if Marty isn't in "Marty" Mode for a while?Or at all this season? That was a pretty major injury. I just don't think Marty will come back and immediately not be rusty. But again, I would love to be wrong. And No, Gio will not be traded. The mere fact that he's being mentioned proves he won't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Or clemmer and marty, because obviously it will be Marty WINNING it, and clemmer HELPING to get us there. That's exactly the point. If there's any playoff glory, he has to be in a Devil uniform. Without him, the team is not where it is right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulags Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 OMG I JUS HERD WE GONNA TRADE GIANTA 4 BOWMISYTER ugh, there are actually people in this world who think that will happen. they make comparable amounts of money (gionta 4 mil a season, bouwmeester 4.8) but it's a matter of rising and falling stock. gionta will not be able to command 4 mil this off-season, period. he only got that much this go round because lucked out and had to renegotiate the summer after he scored those 48 goals. he hasn't even cracked 30 in the seasons since and is projected to have deposited 18 by the end of this one bouwmeester is also projected to score 18, and he's a defenseman. There's little question that teams are going to be throwing money at him this summer. he'll rake at least $6 million a season wherever he goes. he'd be a rental, and let's be serious, if we were to go after one of those it would be claude lemieux. obviously. makes more sense to keep gio and either sign him this offseason for somewhere in the langs/zubes range (about $3 mil) or let him walk if he doesn't produce down the stretch and the playoffs. the thing i like about keeping him is that he'll have extra motivation to produce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Crowder Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 the devils can easily carry three goalies - when brodeur comes back, they can send leach, brookbank, or pandolfo to the minors to keep the third one on the roster. if brodeur comes back after the trade deadline, rosters expand then and so the devils won't even need to do that. kevin weekes isn't going to draw much interest in trade, i'd be surprised if the devils could get a 4th round pick for him. Pando would have to clear wavers, that would never happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeford Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Pando would have to clear wavers, that would never happen How sure are we of this? Pando has a pretty damn brutal contract for a player of his marginal (and diminishing) skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouse Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 I get your point now, and happen to agree. I went back and read the "Devils sign G SCOTT CLEMMENSON" thread and it made me smile I did that like a week ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devils26 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 why would they, 26? in case brodeur gets re-injured or something like that. Is there a limit to how many players can travel with a team but be scratched? Because if that's the case, couldn't they just carry 3 goalies with them but only dress Marty and the likely backup? And then if Broduer gets re-injured they'll have 2 goalies already in the NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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