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kovie is using kings to get the best out of devils, he will stay, but for the most money he can bargain.

This is wrong. Kovy may CHOOSE to stay with the Devils but the max offer Lou can give is less than what the Kings are giving. What do you think Kovy is saying to Lou? "Ummm Lou the Kings are offering me more so up your price if you want to keep me." NO WAY THAT"S HAPPENING. Lou has told Kovy the most he can give him and added some sentimental stuff in there like, "We would love to have you as a Devil forever" and "NJ is a great place to raise your family" Lou knows that if Kovy wants more $$$$$ then he is leaving. Kovy knows the Devils don't have a fortune to spend and knows Lou is not going to budge. Not because he doesn't want to pay Kovy more, just because after doing the calculations, he realizes that he can't.

Also, Kovy does not want to play for the Islanders.

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Also, Kovy does not want to play for the Islanders.

Just for sh!ts and giggles, how much do you think Kovalchuk would accept NOT to go to the Isles, assuming $100 million over 10 years is on the table?

Or do you think he would just bolt for Russia?

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As long as that $10M offer from the Isles is real and remains on the table, I believe we're out of it.

i think kovalchuk would've instantly taken that deal, had he really wanted it. that's not to say we're still 'in it' - we may not be.

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I tend to agree that Kovalchuk wouldn't play for the Isles @ 10 million per for the same reason he didn't take the offer from Atlanta. He does want to win. The question is, how much is it worth to him and does he think Jersey is the place to do that?

Personally, I think the Kings have a much brighter future than the Devils at least given the current milieu.

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kovie had the same 10 mil offer from atlanta, which has a far greater arena and a nicer area than nassau. he's not going to go to another non contender for the same price, it's kings or devs period.

kopitar parise is a tie.

brodeur, volchy are the edge.

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I don't know if he's using NJ, I suspect he's looking for the most lucrative deal. And if the reports are to be believed, maybe it's the Isles ponying up the most dough. You figure he wants to get as close as possible to the Atlanta offer to save face.

I hear you but if he has no intention of signing in Jersey, (something we'll never know unless he admits it after he signs somewhere), and he keeps letting Lou think he's still in on it then I think he and his agent are using Lou. I don't consider it dirty tactics, it's just the way it is in the business. I'm just annoyed that it would be our team on the sh!t end of it. I hope I'm wrong and we're still in it, but I have a strange feeling we never really were. Could be because I expected this to be over by now, but I guess it was a good idea for Kovy to be patient.

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kovie had the same 10 mil offer from atlanta, which has a far greater arena and a nicer area than nassau. he's not going to go to another non contender for the same price, it's kings or devs period.

kopitar parise is a tie.

brodeur, volchy are the edge.

Taking Kovalchuk away from either team, I have a hard time believing that you can give an "edge" to the Devils in talent.

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kovie had the same 10 mil offer from atlanta, which has a far greater arena and a nicer area than nassau. he's not going to go to another non contender for the same price, it's kings or devs period.

kopitar parise is a tie.

brodeur, volchy are the edge.

I think you're wearing the red-and-black glasses, but we'll see. It sure is fun trying to guess what's really going on, though. I love this contract stuff.

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kovie had the same 10 mil offer from atlanta, which has a far greater arena and a nicer area than nassau. he's not going to go to another non contender for the same price, it's kings or devs period.

kopitar parise is a tie.

brodeur, volchy are the edge.

the only reason anyone would take Kopitar over Parise is b/c he's a center. The guy just broke 80 for the first time this year and only has 30 goals twice. Zach's regarded as a great 2 way player too, which I'm not sure Kopitar is. And you can't say Volchenkov gives the edge since you know they have Doughty

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Listen, you can't call it "using". He's about to make the biggest decision of his life and he should take a few days at least. It's impossible to use Lou. He's not moving Lou up in price, cuz Lou doesn't do that. Lou has already told Kovy what he can give him. If anything he's negotiating hard with the Kings.

I think there had to have been at least a little back and forth or one upping between the Kings and the Devils at first. It might have come to a point where both teams stopped at a certain number which is why there is a stand still at the moment. If not this would have been settled day 1.

I agree that i don't see him going the the Isles though. Might as well go back to Atlanta.

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I hear you but if he has no intention of signing in Jersey, (something we'll never know unless he admits it after he signs somewhere), and he keeps letting Lou think he's still in on it then I think he and his agent are using Lou. I don't consider it dirty tactics, it's just the way it is in the business. I'm just annoyed that it would be our team on the sh!t end of it. I hope I'm wrong and we're still in it, but I have a strange feeling we never really were. Could be because I expected this to be over by now, but I guess it was a good idea for Kovy to be patient.

Oh, I see what you're saying. That Kovalchuk wants the Devils to think they're in the hunt when he actually has no desire to be a Devil. But like Benoors said, that probably won't drive the Devils' offer past $8 million.

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I agree that i don't see him going the the Isles though. Might as well go back to Atlanta.

I'll ask you the same question I asked Bennors. Assuming $100 million over 10 years from the Isles is real, how much less do you think he would take to anywhere else but Long Island?

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Oh, I see what you're saying. That Kovalchuk wants the Devils to think they're in the hunt when he actually has no desire to be a Devil. But like Benoors said, that probably won't drive the Devils' offer past $8 million.

Exactly, and you and Ben00rs are right about Lou not going above 8 million but that's what has me annoyed. I think they knew Lou wouldn't go past a certain amount but he used that amount to get what he wanted from LA. This is absolutely my own speculation and like I said I hope I'm wrong. It's the pessimist in me.

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I'll ask you the same question I asked Bennors. Assuming $100 million over 10 years from the Isles is real, how much less do you think he would take to anywhere else but Long Island?

Well I think this because he turned down the Atlanta deal already.

I think he'll accept an offer for around 8.5-9 on a cup contending team. The Isles offer will only be used as leverage. I think Dean bites, Lou won't.

I don't think he'll take anything less than 8 per anywhere though.

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That means Kovalchuk would turn his back on $52 million, if the Isles' offer is a real offer. I kinda doubt he would that.

But he can go the KHL and make 30 million more than the Isles would give him and pay a lot less in taxes.

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Well I think this because he turned down the Atlanta deal already.

I think he'll accept an offer for around 8.5-9 on a cup contending team. The Isles offer will only be used as leverage. I think Dean bites, Lou won't.

I don't think he'll take anything less than 8 per anywhere though.

I don't know what will happen (who does?) but I'm going to play devil's advocate again. If Lombardi thinks Kovalchuk going to the Isles is not a real threat, then why would he up the Kings' offer?

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I don't know what will happen (who does?) but I'm going to play devil's advocate again. If Lombardi thinks Kovalchuk going to the Isles is not a real threat, then why would he up the Kings' offer?

Good point. Maybe I didn't give Dean enough credit. I don't think either will up their offer because of the Isles offer.

I'd like to know what number the Devs and the Kings both froze at.

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But he can go the KHL and make 30 million more than the Isles would give him and pay a lot less in taxes.

Yes, he can certainly choose the KHL if one of those teams is making a monster offer. I wonder if he and the wife are willing to move the family to Russia.

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Yes, he can certainly choose the KHL if one of those teams is making a monster offer. I wonder if he and the wife are willing to move the family to Russia.

Point is he has already had offers for big money and big contracts and so far it seems as if he's turned those all down.

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Point is he has already had offers for big money and big contracts and so far it seems as if he's turned those all down.

Right. It appears he wants to play with a contending NHL team, and he would end up looking real good if he took less to do that. Not sure if the ego is going to allow that to happen.

I suspect that he hopes one of these contenders will "make him whole" and pay him what Atlanta would have, or pretty darn close.

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