Biggie B Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 The refs / linesman use it to avoid pucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek21 Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 (edited) Cherry had something on an old shot he aired about replacing it with velcro. The league should watch it. Incidental or not, as Jones pointed out, he had time to pull up and instead shoved Bergeron face first on impact. Maybe we should be on the receiving end of one of those and see how we feel. Bergeron suffered a concussion. That shouldn't be tossed aside. Protecting defenseless players is good. They still haven't addressed the goal crease which is why you see so many collisions like the ones they aired on HNIC Coach's Corner. If the crease were bigger like the old days, attacking players wouldn't be right on top of netminders because there would be more space. You wouldn't see as many of these collisions if they addressed this area. Edited October 29, 2007 by Derek21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsfan26 Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 How would making the creases bigger do anything? Players are allowed to be in the crease now, why would they suddenly stop if they made them bigger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brodeurrocks Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 I agree with the sentiments of other posts in this thread. This looks like one of those unfortunate plays that occurs because of the physical nature of hockey. Borderline hit, but there were three or four similar to it in last night's Devils game... the difference is how far Bergeron is from the boards and how bent over he is at the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squishyx Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Cherry had something on an old shot he aired about replacing it with velcro. The league should watch it.Incidental or not, as Jones pointed out, he had time to pull up and instead shoved Bergeron face first on impact. Maybe we should be on the receiving end of one of those and see how we feel. Bergeron suffered a concussion. That shouldn't be tossed aside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsonnabend Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 (edited) yes! actually it should be tossed aside. look, if a player trips on a stick and smashes his head against the ice should we remove hockey sticks from the game? how about removing the puck because occasionally players take pucks to the face? The result should have no bearing on the punishment.Either its a penalty or its not regardless if the player walks away fine or stays on the ice for 15 minutes. I'm not trying to sound cruel, but consistent. Either you are allowed to hit players who will once a year go into the boards awkwardly and hurt themselves or we remove hitting. The same result for Bergeron could have happened on any other hit. And it's totally irrelevant to bring up the "why don't you take that hit and tell me how it feels argument" I've taken many cheap shots in my day, its the nature of the game and I'm sure a ton of former and current amateur posters here can attest to the same thing. Look it sucks he got hurt, i hope he is ok, I would love for the flyers to have another guy suspended for a quarter season, but 20 games for a freak accident is absurd and the only message it sends is you better pray that the guy you hit isn't that one in a thousand who is going to get hurt no matter how hard you hit him. Edited October 29, 2007 by jsonnabend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglejelly Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 how about removing the puck because occasionally players take pucks to the face? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squishyx Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 (edited) Except for the fact that that's text book boarding:Bergeron was facing the boards because that's where the puck was. Jones not only had time to avoid the hit, but he used his arms to force Bergeron "violently" into the boards. That's not a "freak accident", that's boarding. And for those who say Bergeron shouldn't have been facing the boards, what do you propose? Players must come from the side when playing a puck on the boards? C'mon. The boarding rule is there for a reason, and this is it. - Jeff Edited October 29, 2007 by squishyx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsonnabend Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 (edited) My problem, is that derek and others are calling for punishment to be given to him based on the results on bergeron. Edited October 29, 2007 by jsonnabend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJCroMag Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Per TSN, Jones got a two-game suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brodeurrocks Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Per TSN, Jones got a two-game suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squishyx Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 (edited) Well, that's how the rules are drafted:So there you have it. It's not "either it's a penalty or it isn't". The rules allow different incidents to be treated differently based on severity of the infraction and the severity and nature of any injury to the receiving player. If you have a problem with that, that's legit, but it's a problem with the rules themselves. - Jeff Edited October 29, 2007 by squishyx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilish34 Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 I cant's say I'm surprised. I figured 2-5 at the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdevil26 Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 I expected a larger suspension ( I guess because the Flyers have been doing this all year) but I really think something needs to be done about the Flyers coaches and management meaning they should get a slap or at least an intense lecture about this crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfsharkalligatorhalfman Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 If it had been Janssen instead of Jones it would have been ten games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsonnabend Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 It doesn't say "if the player got really hurt, you can suspend him, if the player isn't hurt, you don't". You are correct, it does not say that. I think what it does say is clear and nothing I can say at this point can make it any clearer. - Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 The host of "HNIC Radio" on SIRIUS said that Julien is telling the players to put face the boards "numbers out" so that they will draw penalties when hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njskaguy33 Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 UPDATE : Jones gets a 2 game suspension for his hit on Bergeron...here's the link : NHL suspends Flyers' Jones for two games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruins4777 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 fvcking joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek21 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 fvcking joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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