Biggie B Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 (edited) "Speaking to a luncheon crowd, Bettman said Avery’s remark offended him as a parent. “To be perfectly honest I wouldn’t want to have to explain to my 12-year-old daughter what he said,” the commissioner said." Wait, did he just say that out loud? He is worried about explaining to his daughter what "sloppy seconds" means? Hey genius, how about the fact that your daughter is watching a sport where two guys punch each other in the face till exhaustion? I hate Avery as much as the next guy, but the NHL is making a mockery of itself. This is what you justify suspending him for? Bettman does realize that people actually read what he says, right? Just sad... "Co-general manager Brett Hull said Sunday that Avery was in a 10-day, voluntary program that could be extended if counselors determine he needs a longer stay." A 10-day stay? This is just the icing on the cake. That should take care of all the anger issues that don't exist. Can this look any more like a circus act? I would just like to thank the NHL for bringing itself into the spotlight. I have heard about this Avery fiasco from what seems like the least probably sources and they are all laughing at the NHL's decision. Congrats again. Job well done! http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-b...p&type=lgns Edited December 17, 2008 by Biggie B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmigliore Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I should use that avatar again where it says the NHL is a circus act or a joke or whatever it said (dont remember)..Bettman actually said the same thing on WFAN radio last week about "having to explain what it mean to his daughter.." yatta yatta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie B Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 I should use that avatar again where it says the NHL is a circus act or a joke or whatever it said (dont remember)..Bettman actually said the same thing on WFAN radio last week about "having to explain what it mean to his daughter.." yatta yatta Now that I think about it, I probably shouldn't even have mention the whole thing about fighting. If Bettman reads this thread, he might get the wrong idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I should use that avatar again where it says the NHL is a circus act or a joke or whatever it said (dont remember)..Bettman actually said the same thing on WFAN radio last week about "having to explain what it mean to his daughter.." yatta yatta I knew what that meant when I was 8. If his daughter doesn't understand the pharase "sloppy seconds" at 12, then she needs to wake up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coorslight Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I knew what that meant when I was 8. If his daughter doesn't understand the pharase "sloppy seconds" at 12, then she needs to wake up. My daughter is 7 and she doesn't know what sloppy seconds means. Are you saying I should enlighten her on the subject? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnie Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I don't know why people keep focusing on this one incident/comment. It's pretty obvious that the league has become sick of having a 3rd liner spend his entire career lamely trying to create controversy to focus an undeserved spotlight on himself to the distraction of actually talented and charismatic players. And the Stars don't care that he said 'sloppy seconds', they just want to remove a locker room cancer at the earliest possible opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moj8681 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I don't know why people keep focusing on this one incident/comment. It's pretty obvious that the league has become sick of having a 3rd liner spend his entire career lamely trying to create controversy to focus an undeserved spotlight on himself to the distraction of actually talented and charismatic players. And the Stars don't care that he said 'sloppy seconds', they just want to remove a locker room cancer at the earliest possible opportunity. I would agree with you, Vinnie if the NHL actually made an effort to promote its talented and charismatic players. Since they don't, Avery's antics don't take away the nonexistent spotlight from anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I don't know why people keep focusing on this one incident/comment. It's pretty obvious that the league has become sick of having a 3rd liner spend his entire career lamely trying to create controversy to focus an undeserved spotlight on himself to the distraction of actually talented and charismatic players. And the Stars don't care that he said 'sloppy seconds', they just want to remove a locker room cancer at the earliest possible opportunity. Exactly. People can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie B Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 Exactly. People can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmigliore Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Exactly. People can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Thats still pathetic that THAT was the final straw.. it should've been last year in the playoffs for that bullsh!t he pulled in front of Marty and his comments. Cant disagree with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Thats still pathetic that THAT was the final straw.. it should've been last year in the playoffs for that bullsh!t he pulled in front of Marty and his comments. Technically, what Avery did in front of Marty was within the rules. It wasn't the most sportsmanlike thing to do, but it was technically legal. What was pathetic was that NO ONE in a Devils jersey (other than Marty throwing a few stick jabs while trying to watch the puck) did anything to stop him. His own teammate, Drury, had to skate over and tell him to knock it off. His comments about Marty, on the record, was that he was fat. The other stuff was behind the scenes. If you look at Avery's history, this 'sloppy seconds' thing makes sense as the final straw. He allegedly called Laraque a 'monkey', publicly berated a Kings assistant coach and Brian Heyward, injured DiPietro (not that that's difficult), publicly berated a legend in the making in Brodeur, publicly berated Jerome Iginla, who is 100 times the hockey player Avery will ever be, and then sought out a camera man to say his planned attack on Phanuef. Those were just off the top of my head, but I think when the NHL realized this wasn't going to go away, they had to do something. When he speaks, as an NHL Player, he is a representative of the league. 'Fatso' ain't so bad. Insulting an actress who supports the league by referring to her as 'sloppy seconds' is very very bad. Bringing sex into it is a big no-no when you want to market to kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutral Zone Trap Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Technically, what Avery did in front of Marty was within the rules. It wasn't the most sportsmanlike thing to do, but it was technically legal. What was pathetic was that NO ONE in a Devils jersey (other than Marty throwing a few stick jabs while trying to watch the puck) did anything to stop him. His own teammate, Drury, had to skate over and tell him to knock it off. His comments about Marty, on the record, was that he was fat. The other stuff was behind the scenes. If you look at Avery's history, this 'sloppy seconds' thing makes sense as the final straw. He allegedly called Laraque a 'monkey', publicly berated a Kings assistant coach and Brian Heyward, injured DiPietro (not that that's difficult), publicly berated a legend in the making in Brodeur, publicly berated Jerome Iginla, who is 100 times the hockey player Avery will ever be, and then sought out a camera man to say his planned attack on Phanuef. Those were just off the top of my head, but I think when the NHL realized this wasn't going to go away, they had to do something. When he speaks, as an NHL Player, he is a representative of the league. 'Fatso' ain't so bad. Insulting an actress who supports the league by referring to her as 'sloppy seconds' is very very bad. Bringing sex into it is a big no-no when you want to market to kids. IIRC that was because the Rangers were on a powerplay or 5-on-3 at the time, so the Devils couldn't do anything. However I do agree with you that the Devils should have pummelled him once it got back to 5-on-5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 My daughter is 7 and she doesn't know what sloppy seconds means. Are you saying I should enlighten her on the subject? LOL, hey I'm in no position to tell anyone how to raise their kids bro. That's all you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USAkid90 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 LOL, hey I'm in no position to tell anyone how to raise their kids bro. That's all you. LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coorslight Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 LOL, hey I'm in no position to tell anyone how to raise their kids bro. That's all you. Well, if I was Elisha's father, I'd be kicking the sh!t outta Avery right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Well, if I was Elisha's father, I'd be kicking the sh!t outta Avery right now. Me too. Same goes for her brother, if she has one. If someone said that about my sister, I'd re-arrange their face to look like my toilet bowl after a night of beer drinking and mexican food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Stevens #4 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Gary Bettman and the Nhl office are Jack a$......Bleep....The Dallas Stars organization are bigger jack a$....bleep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwindog Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 (edited) double post - hmph! Edited December 18, 2008 by Darwindog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwindog Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 OK, not a big deal, but I believe my owner was in fact 12 when she first heard the expression - from the movie Grease. "no thanks Rizzo, Sloppy second's not my style" It's the kind of comment 12 year olds love because they feel all naughty understanding it. When grown ups hear the expression they thing "Wohp - SOMEone got dumped" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfsharkalligatorhalfman Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 OK, not a big deal, but I believe my owner was in fact 12 when she first heard the expression - from the movie Grease. "no thanks Rizzo, Sloppy second's not my style" It's the kind of comment 12 year olds love because they feel all naughty understanding it. When grown ups hear the expression they thing "Wohp - SOMEone got dumped" A semen joke was in Grease? I guess what has become culturally acceptable in kids' musicals has changed over time. I don't think they would use that line today. Or maybe the true meaning of the phrase hadn't really spread though a culture. It'd be like if High School Musical 4 had a big musical number about a Rusty Trombone. Maybe it goes over enough heads to get past censors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepperkorn Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 The dog quoted the line for you. John travolta said it... I just looked it up - I dont think Grease was meant for kids I pasted a few other quotes too. Danny: You're looking good, Riz.Rizzo: Eat your heart out. Danny: But sloppy seconds ain't my style. Danny: Oh, bite the weenie, Riz. Rizzo: With relish. Rizzo: Where are you goin'? To flog your log? Danny: Much better then hanging around here with you dorks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thiswontwork Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 EH...I think bettman is just worried because his daughters are over there in Allendale hanging out with the wrong crowd over at Houilhans and maybe they are already giving sloppy seconds to someone....hehe...sorry way over the line but I think the whole thing is ridiculous anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulags Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 A semen joke was in Grease? Uhh I don't think the phrase is that specific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I'm pretty sure you can say and do things in movies that would not be acceptable in real life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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