nmigliore Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 (edited) Yeah, pretty much. I really wish the Mets had someone else (youth) to take his place in the rotation...overall he's been decent for a #5, but he doesn't fit into the Mets' plans beyond this year...his starts are just a waste of time at this point. Maybe someone will trade for him, but it's not going to be for anything more than a bag of balls. Parnell starting should be interesting... I still think he ends up as the setup man next year, and I only say that because: a) hes only shown confidence in throwing 2 pitches - slider, fastball .. and b) his numbers as a starter in the minors are pretty pedestrian. He'll be starting in place of Pelfrey (who is in NY b/c of the birth of his son Chase Pelf') and his pitch limit will be 60-75 pitches Edited August 7, 2009 by nmigliore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH26 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 mets to trade wagner/delgado? wagner could certainly help somebody in the bullpen if healthy and I'm sure somebody could use a power hitting 1B that is IF they're healthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmigliore Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 mets to trade wagner/delgado? wagner could certainly help somebody in the bullpen if healthy and I'm sure somebody could use a power hitting 1B that is IF they're healthy its better than offering them arbitration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH26 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 its better than offering them arbitration god knows wagner would accept it since he'll probably get peanuts since he hasn't pitched but they can either take probably a low, low, low caliber prospect or just let them leave. They're not going to get anything for Wagner since he's coming off major surgery but they could get a little something for Delgado if he comes back and plays well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmigliore Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 (edited) ahhh the wonderful wonders of oliver perez... absolute domination through 6 innings and then he falls apart in the 7th (who didn't see it coming though? its kinda funny, i was gonna post how great perez was looking after he finished that 6 inning but i just knew he was DUE to collapse, and so i never bothered to post).. anyway, brian stokes really saved his ass. Edited August 8, 2009 by nmigliore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmigliore Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 (edited) lol another blown save for K-Rod .... the word overrated is just about right around the corner. i wonder what everyone will be saying when he does this in a meaningful game next year...... or in a playoff game.... Edited August 8, 2009 by nmigliore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Poster Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 If only my Padres could play this way against other teams. The Padres have their number over the last two seasons for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Pride 26 Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 omar has a mangina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmigliore Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 omar has a mangina i literally 'lol'ed at this since it was so random but so funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 (edited) lol another blown save for K-Rod .... the word overrated is just about right around the corner. i wonder what everyone will be saying when he does this in a meaningful game next year...... or in a playoff game.... You really think the Mets will be playing in meaningful games next year? And you know what Jim Mora would say about playoffs... Seriously though, not that I trust the Mets' medical staff in the slightest, but if there's anything even a little wrong with K-Rod physically, then he needs to be shut down right now. There's absolutely no reason to keep throwing him out there when this season's already gone up in flames. Edited August 8, 2009 by Colorado Rockies 1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prucenterrules Posted August 8, 2009 Author Share Posted August 8, 2009 Seriously though, not that I trust the Mets' medical staff in the slightest, but if there's anything even a little wrong with K-Rod physically, then he needs to be shut down right now. There's absolutely no reason to keep throwing him out there when this season's already gone up in flames. With the way this season has gone I wouldn't be surprized if K-Rod was injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmigliore Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 K-Rod's groundball/fyball ratio is the lowest its been his entire career, his line-drive percentage is the highest its been in his entire career .. his K-rate is a career low and his BB-rate is a career high .. his 3.31 ERA hides the fact hes not been as good as he should be. ..I can only hope this is just a flukey not-so-great season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Pride 26 Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 i literally 'lol'ed at this since it was so random but so funny Inspired by Step Brothers when Dale jumps on the drums and his CEO brother starts chanting DALE HAS A MANGINA (clap clap, clap clap clap) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prucenterrules Posted August 9, 2009 Author Share Posted August 9, 2009 Mets NEED a win tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 (edited) Mets NEED a win tonight. For what, to get six games under .500 instead of eight? Any meaningful connotation for wins and losses sailed when they lost three of four to Arizona. And Parnell's first 'start' was as ugly as Joba's last year. Switching these guys from relievers to starters mid-stream is so problematic. Edited August 9, 2009 by Hasan4978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmigliore Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 64 pitches for Parnell as he is pulled leaving a bases load jam for figgy with 1 out in the 3rd... i hate judging pitchers on pitch counts like this but i wasn't really impressed at all.. he threw a ton of fastballs with a few sliders here and there, and only 1 changeup.. if parnell wants to have any thought of being a starter hes going to need a dependable 3rd pitch. his control was also not very good. he sort of reminds me of john maine but with lesser control.. deep counts, bunch of fouled off pitches, struggling to put hitter's away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prucenterrules Posted August 9, 2009 Author Share Posted August 9, 2009 Hopefully the Mets can get a win tonight and avoid being swept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 64 pitches for Parnell as he is pulled leaving a bases load jam for figgy with 1 out in the 3rd... i hate judging pitchers on pitch counts like this but i wasn't really impressed at all.. he threw a ton of fastballs with a few sliders here and there, and only 1 changeup.. if parnell wants to have any thought of being a starter hes going to need a dependable 3rd pitch. his control was also not very good. he sort of reminds me of john maine but with lesser control.. deep counts, bunch of fouled off pitches, struggling to put hitter's away. You can't make anything out of that. He's got to stretch his arm out. He'd probably be a little better off making this adjustment in the minors, but with the Mets being where they are I guess it doesn't make that much difference. Speaking of Maine, I hope he doesn't fit into the Mets' plans for next season. He had his career year two years ago (you may remember me saying that after the '07 season...I felt the same way about Ollie). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmigliore Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 (edited) You can't make anything out of that. He's got to stretch his arm out. He'd probably be a little better off making this adjustment in the minors, but with the Mets being where they are I guess it doesn't make that much difference. i know thats why i said i dont like judging these kind of outings.. but my point was i wanted see him use his secondary pitches (changeup, 2-seamer, and a splitter if he has one) more opposed to just tossing fastballs and sliders with no game plan and making no adjustments. he doesn't have the command to live off just 2 pitches as a starter so his other offering(s) are pretty essential if he wants to make it as a starter. joba chamberlain was mostly fastball/slider when he was in the yankees' bullpen i believe, but when they converted him back into a starter he eventually utilized his curveball and changeup and hes had success. but im not that worried about Parnell's first outing, im sure he'll use his other offerings more and more.. hasan noted it was as ugly as chamberlain's first start; in fact checking the pitchFX data from that joba start, they were both similar starts: Basic Line Chamberlain : 2.1 IP, 1 hit, 1 ER, 4 BB, 3 K .. 62 pitches (32 strikes) Parnell : 2.1 IP, 4 hits, 2 ER, 3 BB, 1 K .. 68 pitches (42 strikes) PitchFX (Ignore movement, release points, etc) Chamberlain : Parnell : -- Ignoring the movement etc. you could see Joba only threw 2 pitches that weren't a slider or four-seam fastball - 2 curveballs .. Parnell also only threw 2 pitches that weren't a slider or four-seam fastball - 1 two-seam fastball, 1 changeup... Yeah they had pretty similar first outings.. both guys really didn't have a gameplan nor did they make any adjustments, and both guys struggled to throw strikes. Speaking of Maine, I hope he doesn't fit into the Mets' plans for next season. He had his career year two years ago (you may remember me saying that after the '07 season...I felt the same way about Ollie). the mets could non-tender him but that would be foolish.. i dont think he should be a starter since he cant seem to stay healthy the past couple years but i would like for them to stick him in the bullpen. if worse comes to worst they could always trade him since he's only on year-to-year arbitration contracts. Edited August 9, 2009 by nmigliore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prucenterrules Posted August 10, 2009 Author Share Posted August 10, 2009 Great job by Johan today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prucenterrules Posted August 11, 2009 Author Share Posted August 11, 2009 Well lets see what Mets team shows up today. The one that can't get a hit or the one that scores runs and plays good D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmigliore Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) Rubin believes Ricco will eventually take over as GM post-Minaya Its pretty much impossible to judge guys that have never been past GMs, I mean really his only track record was bringing up the Francoeur-for-Church deal.. but with that said Im sure he wouldn't make messes that Minaya makes with his terrible public speaking. Here is a cool John Ricco profile that Rubin had posted: The John Ricco fileAGE: 41 HIRED BY METS: April 15, 2004 HOMETOWN: Cedar Grove, N.J. FAMILY: Married with three children COLLEGE: Villanova University, B.A. in Communications, minor in Business MET DUTIES: Point man in the Mets' front office for rules compliance and statistical analysis and the financial ramifications of maneuvers. BACKGROUND: Worked for MLB Commissioner's office from 1996-2004. Served as director, contract and salary administration. Other duties included conducting salary analysis. GOT HIS START: Was director of waivers and records for American League from 1992-96. Served as assistant public relations director in 1992. Rubin also mentions the Mets' payroll figures to decrease.. -------------- and Parnell worked on his changeup in his bullpen session: http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/11/parnells-transition-to-starter/ Edited August 11, 2009 by nmigliore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) Wow, tonight's lineup is fun for the masochistic side of us: Sullivan - CF Castillo - 2B Tatis - 3B (Wright's under the weather) Murphy - 1B Francoeur - RF Reed - CF Cora - SS Schnieder - C Livan - P So let's see, we have about fifteen HR's in the entire lineup aside from Francoeur, Schnieder and his sub .200 average, a .250 hitter batting cleanup and a Rockies castoff hitting leadoff. Edited August 11, 2009 by Hasan4978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmigliore Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Wow, tonight's lineup is fun for the masochistic side of us: Sullivan - CF Castillo - 2B Tatis - 3B (Wright's under the weather) Murphy - 1B Francoeur - RF Reed - CF Cora - SS Schnieder - C Livan - P So let's see, we have about fifteen HR's in the entire lineup aside from Francoeur, Schnieder and his sub .200 average, a .250 hitter batting cleanup and a Rockies castoff hitting leadoff. yet this lineup will probably manage to somehow win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Pride 26 Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I HATE the sac bunt with no outs to move the runner to thrid, especially with guys hitting .230 and .243 behind him. Dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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