hurricane1091 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Parise-Zajac-Henrique Zubrus-Elias-Sykora Kovalchuk-Josefson-Palmieri Tedenby-Carter-Clarkson First line is amazing, second line is extremely solid, third line is more like a second (and possibly even a first since Kovy is on it) and fourth line could actually legit score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessus Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 If Clarkson is going to play 4th line, I like yours (though I'd switch Palmieri and Tedenby), but I doubt Clarkson will play on the 4th line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane1091 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I mean with the way it's shaping up to be, the fourth line is really like a third so it doesn't matter to much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caron14 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Kovalchuk-Zajac-Zubrus Parise-Henrique-Clarkson Tedenby- Elias-Sykora 3 balance and productive line to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I don't know what's so popular about breaking up a line(Parise-Henrique-Kovalchuk) that has over a combined 40 points in the past 15 games or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devils26 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 thats what i'd go for and would scratch boulton and Janssen for the rest of the season, they are ABSOLUTELLY USELESS, i don't care that they can fight, not that im against fighting but what its bringing to a game is useless to me (especially when you fight like 2 min in the game) then they bring energy? jesus christ we have Zach, you can't bring more energy than he is, and he can actually play. At this point, it's not fair to put Janssen and Boulton in the same sentence. Really, it's not even fair to put Janssen and any NHL'er in the same sentence. Cam has been beyond awful; he looks absolutely clueless on the ice 100% of the time. On the other hand, Boulton is at least passable as a 4th liner, especially in the absence of Zajac and Josefson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caron14 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I don't know what's so popular about breaking up a line(Parise-Henrique-Kovalchuk) that has over a combined 40 points in the past 15 games or so. To have a kovalchuk who play LW and to have better deep on each line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS-SS Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I don't know what's so popular about breaking up a line(Parise-Henrique-Kovalchuk) that has over a combined 40 points in the past 15 games or so. +1 If it works don't fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Rattlehead18 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I will play. Kovalchuk-zajac-zubrus Parise-elias-henrique Sykora-josefson-clarkson Zharkov-carter-tedenby (kovie can be doubleshifted at 4th lw to get him and teddy some time together and zubs and sykora could be interchanged) Janssen Tallinder-fayne Larsson-salvador Greene-volchenkov Foster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 To have a kovalchuk who play LW and to have better deep on each line Kovalchuk and Zach are both LW, but you wouldn't be able to tell the last dozen games. Kovy has played better on this line whether or not he's playing RW or LW. But know ing New Jersey, Zajac will come back, we'll break up the lines and build chemistry again dumping like 10-12 winnable points along the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blown01NJ Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Parise Zajac Henrique Kovalchuk Elias Sykora Zubrus Josefson Clarkson Tedenby Carter Palmieri This looks good to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessus Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I mean with the way it's shaping up to be, the fourth line is really like a third so it doesn't matter to much. Yeah you're probably right, I just get the feeling Lou and DeBoer wouldn't want to place him with those guys. But you never know, Clarkson has had an above average year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newarkdev01 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Honestly, I think you will see that top line stay together till it falters at which point Zajac should be at full speed. Personally I wouldn't be surprised to see Zajac pared with Elias after a few games as that line has sputtered a bit recently. Coach seems to ride his horses till the falter so I would be suprised to see him break up the top line while its hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie McKraut Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Is it more important to preserve a "hot" line or to put Kovalchuk at his natural position? Not too long ago, "Kovalchuk at RW" was receiving a lot of criticism for misuse of a key asset who was struggling. I'm more inclined to keep that top line together, but I can see it from both angles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLL765 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 (edited) Is it more important to preserve a "hot" line or to put Kovalchuk at his natural position? Not too long ago, "Kovalchuk at RW" was receiving a lot of criticism for misuse of a key asset who was struggling. I'm more inclined to keep that top line together, but I can see it from both angles. I still think Kovy at RW is not the best idea, but as you said, with the way that line has produced the past 10 games, there's no way you break them up right now. Once they start to fall off a bit, then you put Zajac back with Parise with Henrique most likely moving to RW on that line then the 2nd line becoming Kovy-Elias-Sykora For Friday the lines I'd like to see are: Parise-Henrique-Kovy Sykora-Elias-Zubrus Teddy-Zajac-Clarkson Sestito-Carter-Whoever Depending on how Zajac looks in the 1st period and how that second line is playing, I think we may see the second line altered to Elias-Zajac-Sykora and the third line being Teddy-Zubrus-Clarkson to see if that will spark some offense from them. Once that first line starts to fall off a bit and Zajac is back playing at 100%, I think the lines will ultimately look like this: Parise-Zajac-Henrique Kovy-Elias-Sykora Teddy-Zubrus-Clarkson Sestito-Carter-Whoever I think that Henrique will more likely be moved to RW as opposed to playing center for Kovy because he, just like Parise and Zajac, plays a very simple game predicated on hard work and good forechecking down low. Kovy needs someone who can make fancier plays and can see the ice better in order to make perfect passes to him and Elias is the only guy on our team that is extremely proficient at that, so I think they're a better fit that Henrique would be with Kovy. Then once Josefson is back, they may look like this: Parise-Zajac-Henrique Kovy-Elias-Sykora Zubrus-Josefson-Clarkson Teddy-Carter-Sestito Although if Tedenby can prove he can play more more responsibly and Deboer is comfortable with him playing on the 3rd line or higher, Zubrus may become the odd man out. I know he's played relatively well so far, but if he can be traded along with a prospect or pick for a natural RW who can play on one of the top 2 lines or if we can move Salvador, a prospect and/or pick for an offensive d-man who can play in the top 4, I think either of those trades may look very attractive around the deadline. This all is dependent on where we are in the standings by then, how the team's playing and whether or not Josefson is back in the lineup and is back up to speed, playing at 100%. Edited December 15, 2011 by ATLL765 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouse Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Kovalchuk - Zajac - Zubrus Parise - Henrique - Clarkson Elias - Josefson - Sykora Tedenby - Carter - Zharkov/Palmieri Tallinder Fayne Larsson Greene Volchenkov Salvador/Foster/Tao Though I see Tedenby and maybe Greene getting traded for a better dman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anhkheg Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Sykora-Elias-Zubrus Parise-Zajac-Henrique Kovy-Josefson-Palmieri (if we get a Bernier to sign, would love to see him on this line or perhaps a trade for Gagner) Tedenby-Carter-Clarkson xtras: Janssen-Boulton Defense: Tallinder-Fayne Larsson-Green Volchenkov-Foster Extras: Salvador I would expect Tao and Urbom getting sent down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLL765 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Kovalchuk - Zajac - Zubrus Parise - Henrique - Clarkson Elias - Josefson - Sykora Tedenby - Carter - Zharkov/Palmieri Tallinder Fayne Larsson Greene Volchenkov Salvador/Foster/Tao Though I see Tedenby and maybe Greene getting traded for a better dman. Although I agree that Greene may be desirable to other teams, I don't imagine he'll get traded right after Lou signed him to a new contract. It's pretty unusual to see Lou trade a guy he just signed like that. Salvador might be possible to trade if he keeps playing the way he is now. He's played well, but if we're getting close to the deadline and a move could be made for a top d-man who can put up 35-45 points/year, he's a defensive d-man and we have enough of those with Tallinder, Volchenkov and Fayne, so I wouldn't be opposed to moving him and one of Tedenby, Zubrus or a pick/prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouse Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Although I agree that Greene may be desirable to other teams, I don't imagine he'll get traded right after Lou signed him to a new contract. It's pretty unusual to see Lou trade a guy he just signed like that. Salvador might be possible to trade if he keeps playing the way he is now. He's played well, but if we're getting close to the deadline and a move could be made for a top d-man who can put up 35-45 points/year, he's a defensive d-man and we have enough of those with Tallinder, Volchenkov and Fayne, so I wouldn't be opposed to moving him and one of Tedenby, Zubrus or a pick/prospect. He traded Oduya. I know Kovy was special, and Oduya was looking bad, but Greene has been so-so, and they need another legit top 4 d, unless Larsson's learning curve is freakishly fast (not ruling it out, but not counting on it). I think Greene and Tedenby are the most tradeable guys on the roster (both for other teams to take and for us to lose), and, while I'd normally say trade one of our d prospects (they'd probably fetch more then Greene anyway), we need to open up a roster spot since right now we have mediocre d out the ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anhkheg Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Although I agree that Greene may be desirable to other teams, I don't imagine he'll get traded right after Lou signed him to a new contract. It's pretty unusual to see Lou trade a guy he just signed like that. Salvador might be possible to trade if he keeps playing the way he is now. He's played well, but if we're getting close to the deadline and a move could be made for a top d-man who can put up 35-45 points/year, he's a defensive d-man and we have enough of those with Tallinder, Volchenkov and Fayne, so I wouldn't be opposed to moving him and one of Tedenby, Zubrus or a pick/prospect. Zubrus is a monster, he is not going anywhere and he is money in the playoffs. The only D-Man I can see moving would be Salvador, but don't be surprised if Lou sends off Greene for an upgrade. Personally, I don't think the Devils will make any trades besides role player types. We simply don't have the pieces to land a #1 D-man who can play all situations. For example, would you trade Shea Weber for Greene+Tedenby+1st if you were Nashville or would you demand an elite prospect like Larsson/Merrill (in limbo) who Lou will most likely will not move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 For example, would you trade Shea Weber for Greene+Tedenby+1st if you were Nashville or would you demand an elite prospect like Larsson/Merrill (in limbo) who Lou will most likely will not move. Greene + Tedenby + 1st? No chance, even if the team with the UFA rarely get equal value in these trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouse Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Zubrus is a monster, he is not going anywhere and he is money in the playoffs. The only D-Man I can see moving would be Salvador, but don't be surprised if Lou sends off Greene for an upgrade. Personally, I don't think the Devils will make any trades besides role player types. We simply don't have the pieces to land a #1 D-man who can play all situations. For example, would you trade Shea Weber for Greene+Tedenby+1st if you were Nashville or would you demand an elite prospect like Larsson/Merrill (in limbo) who Lou will most likely will not move. Only way we get a top pairing guy is if we realize we can't resign Zach and trade him. I would hate to see that, but getting a guy like Weber or Suter from Nashville would soften the blow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devs4LIFE Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 If the lines keep playing the way that they have I would either send Josefson down to the minors or trade him for an upgrade on Defense. Say Josefson and Salvador for Matt Greene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 If the lines keep playing the way that they have I would either send Josefson down to the minors or trade him for an upgrade on Defense. Say Josefson and Salvador for Matt Greene. Ugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devs4LIFE Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Ugh Just throwing names out there. But yeah I would send JJ down to the minors rather than mess with the chemistry of our top three lines if they stay consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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