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#21 MadDog2020

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:37 AM

So far no one has been confused maddog

It appears not. My apologies. :P Regarding the actual proposal, I agree with the majority- wouldn't do it. I'm stating the obvious when I say that I see Edmonton as our best chance of making a deal at this point.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:38 AM

What about a trade with Minnesota? Too soon?
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:38 AM

So far no one has been confused maddog

I was definitely confused, but looked into it more before going ape sh!t.

Tallinder is such a good, and underrated d-man here. I thought the playoffs showed his value.
Josefson I could see trading... but he has shown great potential, but also proven to be rather unlucky and/or fragile. Take your pick.


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#24 Chimaira_Devil_#9

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:39 AM

You do realize we gain a forward by making this deal.


Of less quality than the one we are giving up, making the little depth we have weaker.

Also we dont have any depth at center.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:40 AM

We should be getting younger. Erat doesn't help there.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:40 AM

Not interested in any deal with Nashville that isn't about acquiring Weber.

/sarcasm

Don't see much improvement from this deal
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:41 AM

Tallinder is the oldest player in the deal.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:43 AM

Tallinder is the oldest player in the deal.


And JJ is the youngest.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:44 AM

I like the idea of keeping Tallinder around to mentor Larsson for another year or two.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:45 AM

I think Tallinder is worth keeping around, and the few games Josefson got in during the playoffs, I think he improved every game. Placed on the right line like last season, and I think he can be productive.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:45 AM

Hell no
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:47 AM

Let me break this down for you because either guys are you mongos or don't understand dealing from strength.

1 We have 8 dman signed

2. Tallinder is the most tradable since Larsson will do what he does and has a better cap hit

3. Volch probably won't waive his NTC after getting to the SCF so he is staying

4. Our top 6 is weak at the moment unless you want Pesonen as our first line right winger opening night

5. We hace center depth. Henrique has passed Josefson and is our best young player by far


Hypothetical lines

Kovalchuk Zajac Erat

Zubrus Elias Sykora/Tedendby/Pesonen take your pick i'm undecided

Halischuk Henrique Clarkson

Carter Gionta Bernier
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:51 AM

I read also that Lou said that Larsson is going to be a full time player from here on out also. so a dman is expendable but i think not until Fayne is back from injury because as it is in reality right now, there are only 7 healthy right now
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:54 AM

Harrold, Urbom, and Gelinas can all split time as the extra for a week or two if need be.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:11 AM

Let me break this down for you because either guys are you mongos or don't understand dealing from strength.

1 We have 8 dman signed

2. Tallinder is the most tradable since Larsson will do what he does and has a better cap hit

3. Volch probably won't waive his NTC after getting to the SCF so he is staying

4. Our top 6 is weak at the moment unless you want Pesonen as our first line right winger opening night

5. We hace center depth. Henrique has passed Josefson and is our best young player by far


Hypothetical lines

Kovalchuk Zajac Erat

Zubrus Elias Sykora/Tedendby/Pesonen take your pick i'm undecided

Halischuk Henrique Clarkson

Carter Gionta Bernier


We don't have depth at centre.

As much as i love Henrique he has had one good year. The player he had good chemistry with has just signed for Minnesota. Zajac is 2 years away from UFA. Elias is the wrong side of 30. We only have two prospects in the organisation who are centers. I don't consider that depth.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:19 AM

I would approve if Erat was a little younger.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:21 AM

He is 30 years old.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 07:55 PM

Greene is the most valuable to trade, not Tallinder. The former is younger and did not have a blood clot issue that cost him most of the season.

Green to NSH makes sense, but all the Devils could hope for in return are draft picks...they don't really have scoring depth at forward. Even giving up Erat would hurt them.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 08:00 PM

Volcehnkov went to the SCF when he was with the Sens. I doubt him being willing to waive his NTC has much to do with the SCF.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 08:18 PM

Volcehnkov went to the SCF when he was with the Sens. I doubt him being willing to waive his NTC has much to do with the SCF.


I agree. I don't think Volchenkov is necessarily a lock not to waive. Its just that he can block it if he wants to. Erat has an NMC himself. I don't think Erat is awful though, just a tad overpaid (3 more seasons at 4.5). He could be a smarter pickup than Hemsky. Erat's been steady at about 50 points for the last 6 seasons. He has never played 82 games though.

I'm having a tough time moving Tallinder in any situation. I'd be more comfortable moving Greene or Volchenkov. I definitely think Tallinder is important for Larsson, at least until his next contract is up.

I don't know if Erat would be the right choice. Seems to me it would be more of a 2nd or 3rd choice of trade partner. Edmonton I think is more viable right now.

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