Rock Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Check out this picture from MSG Network of Dryden in a Canada Cup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 If anyone would try to play dressed like that nowdays, the chance of surviving a couple of games would be small Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek21 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 If goalies were still dressed like that, I guarantee there would be a lot more goals scored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizDevil30 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 If it weren't for the leg pads, I'd swear he was going to participate in a wet tee shirt contest, not a hockey game. It looks as if he has NO chest protection whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Puddy Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 If goalies were still dressed like that, I guarantee there would be a lot more goals scored. A lot more goalies with the wind knocked out of them, too. You want to take a Sheldon Souray slapshot in the chest dressed like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepperkorn Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 check out the face mask only too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammyk Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 If goalies were still dressed like that, I guarantee there would be a lot more goals scored. A lot more goalies with the wind knocked out of them, too. You want to take a Sheldon Souray slapshot in the chest dressed like that? Well, that's just it. They may not try to stop it with their chest and try a different way and possibly fail...and possibly allow a goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 If goalies were still dressed like that, I guarantee there would be a lot more goals scored. A lot more goalies with the wind knocked out of them, too. You want to take a Sheldon Souray slapshot in the chest dressed like that? Well, that's just it. They may not try to stop it with their chest and try a different way and possibly fail...and possibly allow a goal. Should forwards be forced to avoid using a certain part of their sticks, so they can try to score a goal and..."possibly fail"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarDew Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Check out this picture from MSG Network of Dryden in a Canada Cup! Rock...remember the days of no padding and no MASKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek21 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 A lot more goalies with the wind knocked out of them, too. You want to take a Sheldon Souray slapshot in the chest dressed like that? That wasn't my point. I was thinking more in terms of how much more net players would have to shoot at. They wouldn't think twice about firing a long slapper from a sharp angle. There's just no room anymore for shooters. You're dead on about the lack of chest protection though in that era. Just to think that goalies used to not even wear masks is daunting. Those guys had guts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammyk Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 If goalies were still dressed like that, I guarantee there would be a lot more goals scored. A lot more goalies with the wind knocked out of them, too. You want to take a Sheldon Souray slapshot in the chest dressed like that? Well, that's just it. They may not try to stop it with their chest and try a different way and possibly fail...and possibly allow a goal. Should forwards be forced to avoid using a certain part of their sticks, so they can try to score a goal and..."possibly fail"? Say what? I meant making a save in another way and fail...not changing the way a skater shoots...perhaps I'm missing something here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 (edited) A lot more goalies with the wind knocked out of them, too. You want to take a Sheldon Souray slapshot in the chest dressed like that? That wasn't my point. I was thinking more in terms of how much more net players would have to shoot at. They wouldn't think twice about firing a long slapper from a sharp angle. There's just no room anymore for shooters. You're dead on about the lack of chest protection though in that era. Just to think that goalies used to not even wear masks is daunting. Those guys had guts. Would prefer to see goalies with 3.00 rather than 2.00 GAAs? I know some people consider offense "exciting," but goalies are players, too--and they wouldn't enjoy seeing all their training and hard work amount to nothing. Edited June 30, 2004 by Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Dryden would still be considered huge for this era, he was 6'4-6'5. And I'm sure he took his share of shots up high, remember there was no limit to the curve on sticks back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Would you rather have goalies with 3.20 rather than 2.00 GAAs? I know some people consider offense "exciting," but goalies are players, too--and they're not going to enjoy seeing all their training and hard work amount to nothing. boo hoo, we want to see goalies work for there saves. It should be more than just getting in position and letting the puck hit your equipment. We don't see nearly as many great sprawling saves. Everybody just drops to there knees and 9/10 of the net is still covered. That's boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 (edited) Would you rather have goalies with 3.20 rather than 2.00 GAAs? I know some people consider offense "exciting," but goalies are players, too--and they're not going to enjoy seeing all their training and hard work amount to nothing. boo hoo, we want to see goalies work for there saves. It should be more than just getting in position and letting the puck hit your equipment. We don't see nearly as many great sprawling saves. Everybody just drops to there knees and 9/10 of the net is still covered. That's boring. Do you want to see a forward take some weak slapshot or wrister only to see it get past the goaltender simply because he had too much net to shoot at? The '80s were horrible. Edited June 30, 2004 by Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Posted June 30, 2004 Author Share Posted June 30, 2004 Dryden would still be considered huge for this era, he was 6'4-6'5.And I'm sure he took his share of shots up high, remember there was no limit to the curve on sticks back then. Funny I thought the curve restrictions were put into place in the early '60's well before Dryden's time in the NHL. edit turns out I knew, while it doesn't give the exact year this site puts the curve restrictions around 1961 with Hull and Mikita. virtual museum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammyk Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Hey 7, if they eliminated the trap and reduced goalie equipment and scoring still didnt go up, what would blame then, or complain about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matteau#32 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 That looks like a picture from the 72 Summit Series. I have the 8 game DVD set, Dryden, Esposito, and Tretiak looked like they were wearing catchers equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Hey 7, if they eliminated the trap and reduced goalie equipment and scoring still didnt go up, what would blame then, or complain about? What if they cut your heart out but you didn't die??? it's impossible, scoring would go up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Puddy Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 The only way goalie equipment should be reduced drastically is if players were restricted to wooden sticks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammyk Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 (edited) Hey 7, if they eliminated the trap and reduced goalie equipment and scoring still didnt go up, what would blame then, or complain about? What if they cut your heart out but you didn't die??? it's impossible, scoring would go up. Hey just asking. EDIT: Edited June 30, 2004 by sammyk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devildude Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 no padding means an increase in injury and more problems for the NHL. I dont care if goals sell, I enjoy the goalie duel. Watch Brodure play is amazing, because he makes it entertaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 no padding means an increase in injury and more problems for the NHL. I dont care if goals sell, I enjoy the goalie duel. Watch Brodure play is amazing, because he makes it entertaining. What does Brodeur have to do with goalie equipement size? I put goalie equipment growth as the #1 factor causing goals to go down. It's simple. You put a bigger obstacle in front of the net, it's gonna block more shots. I think that what they should do is measure a goalie's gear and have a formula dictating that if you wear X amount of gear, you have to play with X size net. If you want to wear Y amount of gear, you play with Y size net. And you start with that size goal and that size gear. I heard Brodeur whine last year that he didn't like making the nets bigger because it screws up all the records in the record book. As if his larger gear (larger than Dryden's) hasn't helped HIM set any of his records. Trash excuse. Give the goalies the choice. Either Snow cuts down his gear, or he plays in a soccer net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 I heard Brodeur whine last year that he didn't like making the nets bigger because it screws up all the records in the record book. As if his larger gear (larger than Dryden's) hasn't helped HIM set any of his records. Trash excuse. Whoa bad comparison, Marty's gear is actually small for 'these' days and you know that. He wasn't making an excuse he was stating fact. It would artificially screw up the record book to change the dimensions of the net that have been in place since Lord Stanley's Cup was first created. Just like it would screw up all the records if you shortened or lengthened the season. Goalies 'should' have chest protectors and pads, my issue is with the amount of pads and the football-sized shoulder pads guys like Snow have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Posted July 1, 2004 Author Share Posted July 1, 2004 Obviously it should be somewhere in the middle of Giguere's Michelin Man and Dryden's "Thiefing Giraffe*" *What Espo called him when the Habs beat the Bruins in the playoffs in Dryden's first playoff year. BTW I think Dryden is around Marty's height. Shows you how big the players have gotten. Marty's height is considered normal nowadays, and I've never heard him called a giraffe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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