Jerzey Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I am the only one that wants to see what Josefson can do with more minutes and on the 1st or 2nd line? I mean, the guy has been a work in progress for like 5 years now, and he's really only one of the young prospects we have left that has actually had some significant NHL time, just not enough to really gauge his ability and potential if he were surrounded by better linemates. I think it's great to see Zubrus on the 4th line finally, his play doesn't warrant anything other than that. Is it confirmed Ryder is back in the lineup and on the 4th as well? Also, what is Havlat scratched? http://fireandice.northjersey.com/fire-ice-1.174987/looks-like-gelinas-ryder-back-in-devils-lineup-tonight-in-chicago-1.1271300 No confirmation on anything really but it "looks like" that's the 4th line and Gelinas is in. No reason given on why Havlats out yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsrule33 Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Well, Fraser and Havlat look to be out, which are good choices to scratch, and Zubrus looks to be on the 4th line. NJ has remarkably created 4 3rd lines which I imagine is difficult to do. Seriously. Elias/Zajac/Tootoo.... Ryder is in for Havlat, and instead of putting him in that spot, they have Tootoo there, and Ryder playing in an absolutely useless role on the 4th line. There is no value added by playing him there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Seriously. Elias/Zajac/Tootoo.... Ryder is in for Havlat, and instead of putting him in that spot, they have Tootoo there, and Ryder playing in an absolutely useless role on the 4th line. There is no value added by playing him there. But he's playing with two guys who aren't idiots with the puck. Zubrus and Josefson aren't your standard 4th liners. I actually don't mind this - I think Elias-Zajac-Ryder is too slow and would go nowhere anyway. Problem is that Tootoo is one of their fastest forwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsrule33 Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) Camm-Zajac-Jagr Elias-Gomez-Ryder Henrique-Josefson-Bernier Ruutu-Zubrus-Tootoo or Camm-Gomez-Jagr Henrique-Elias-Ryder Ruutu-Zajac-Bernier Zubrus-Josefson-Tootoo Thoughts? Anything is better than the mess in morning skate. Edited February 13, 2015 by devilsrule33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 We now have the leagues most expensive locker room fluffer onboard for this trip. At least Clowe is contributing now in some capacity. Lou sees some value there, he's been missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsrule33 Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) Schneider in tonight should put to rest any talk of tanking. The coaching staff are just idiots. Glad that mystery is solved. Edited February 14, 2015 by devilsrule33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) Schneider in tonight should put to rest any talk of tanking. The coaching staff are just idiots. Glad that mystery is solved.Perhaps the latter is by design. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Edited February 15, 2015 by Daniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Eco Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Schneider in tonight should put to rest any talk of tanking. The coaching staff are just idiots. Glad that mystery is solved. Idiotic. And I love Schneider, but what's the freaking point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 If they're not tanking then where the hell is the accountability for just flat-out taking nights off? Lou can be the cheerful granddad behind the bench if he wants but when the team's getting outshot 21-3 in a period that's the time to put your shoe up someone's butt. You'd figure between Lou and Stevens ONE of them would at least blow a gasket but that hasn't happened any of the other times they've no-showed games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Yeah, so it's not our biggest problem but Cammalleri taking faceoffs is just not going to work. Gomez is already bad enough. Heh, I guess as long as it's not Elias; if it wasn't for Gionta, he'd be the most dreadful of all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Nobody taking faceoffs other than Zajac is really a good option anyway...but Cammalleri at center PERIOD is just another villiage idiot move by this staff. Other than the Kotite Jet fan days I've literally never seen a nuttier staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsrule33 Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 If they're not tanking then where the hell is the accountability for just flat-out taking nights off? Lou can be the cheerful granddad behind the bench if he wants but when the team's getting outshot 21-3 in a period that's the time to put your shoe up someone's butt. You'd figure between Lou and Stevens ONE of them would at least blow a gasket but that hasn't happened any of the other times they've no-showed games. It's a really bad team Has. That's all. Just a garbage team. It's not about accountability, but a few players might have checked out, and that's fine. The season is over, and a bunch of guys know they will be shipped out soon. What do they care? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) Zubrus must be scratched, hes embarassing himself out there. Sad to see, he was a good Devil until the shortened season. Edited February 15, 2015 by Zubie#8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 You'd figure between Lou and Stevens ONE of them would at least blow a gasket but that hasn't happened any of the other times they've no-showed games. Thanks for the report, can you tell us what else is going on in the room? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 If they're not tanking then where the hell is the accountability for just flat-out taking nights off? Lou can be the cheerful granddad behind the bench if he wants but when the team's getting outshot 21-3 in a period that's the time to put your shoe up someone's butt. You'd figure between Lou and Stevens ONE of them would at least blow a gasket but that hasn't happened any of the other times they've no-showed games. Thing is, Lou has always been known as a player's coach, and more of a hard ass in the GM role. But as DR33 said, I think he realizes what the team is, so there's nothing to be gained with a tantrum. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerzey Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Looks like some of you will get your wish and Rutuu will get a chance to play with some talent... Here is the breakdown of the players practicing today: Forwards: Tuomo Ruutu-Scott Gomez-Jaromir Jagr; Patrik Elias-Adam Henrique-Steve Bernier/Michael Ryder; Mike Cammalleri-Travis Zajac-Jordin Tootoo; Dainius Zubrus-Jacob Josefson/Stephen Gionta-Martin Havlat. http://fireandice.northjersey.com/fire-ice-1.174987/cammalleri-back-at-left-wing-elias-at-center-as-devils-shuffle-line-combinations-again-1.1272418 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLL765 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) Looks like some of you will get your wish and Rutuu will get a chance to play with some talent... http://fireandice.northjersey.com/fire-ice-1.174987/cammalleri-back-at-left-wing-elias-at-center-as-devils-shuffle-line-combinations-again-1.1272418 I'm really not a fan of Henrique at center. I'd much rather put Elias back at center than force Henrique to play a position he clearly isn't capable of, especially knowing that line is going to get tough assignments. And once again, we're leaving two quality players stuck with Tootoo as their RW. I'd much rather see either Ryder as the RW there and give them soft matchups or put Josefson at LW there and switch Cammalleri to the right side. Of course Oates has some serious fixation on handedness that borders on compulsion. I'd like to see something like this tried out for the forward lines: Cammalleri-Gomez-Jagr Elias-Zajac-Bernier Henrique-Josefson-Ryder/Havlat Ruutu-Zubrus-Tootoo Edited February 16, 2015 by ATLL765 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonNala370 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) Yeah, so it's not our biggest problem but Cammalleri taking faceoffs is just not going to work. Gomez is already bad enough. Heh, I guess as long as it's not Elias; if it wasn't for Gionta, he'd be the most dreadful of all. Yeah, so it's not our biggest problem but Cammalleri taking faceoffs is just not going to work. Gomez is already bad enough. Heh, I guess as long as it's not Elias; if it wasn't for Gionta, he'd be the most dreadful of all. Elias, Cammalleri are not centers but forced to play that position because Lou can't do his job. Gomez has been good for this team overall. Gionta doesn't belong in the NHL, heis on this team because Lou can't do the GM job anymore. Edited February 16, 2015 by BostonNala370 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLL765 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Elias, Cammalleri are not centers but forced to play that position because Lou can't do his job. Gomez has been good for this team overall. Gionta doesn't belong in the NHL, heis on this team because Lou can't do the GM job anymore. You're right that neither of them are. Personally, I feel like it's a complete waste of Cammalleri's talent to play him at center. With him at LW, at least then we can occasionally be excited to see Cammaleri utilize his great shot. I really like the idea of having Cammalleri-Gomez-Jagr as a line. Gomez is a pass first guy, but Cammalleri and Jagr are more shoot first types, so I wonder what kind of chemistry they could build together. Might see some pretty slick passing plays between those three. Then having Elias/Henrique-Zajac-Bernier as a 2nd line isn't bad either. You have Zjac and Bernier who are both great down low with the cycle, then I think Henrique might even be better than Elias here as he could kinda float around, trying to get open for a shot since he's not the best along the boards. A 3rd line of Elias-Josefson-Ryder/Havlat/Ruutu could be a solid line as well. And then you have Tootoo-Zubrus-Ruutu/Gionta to make up a competent 4th line. I think this best consolidates our offensive talents while still giving us 2 good scoring lines, one that might manage to chip in as a 3rd line and you have Tootoo and Zubrus where they belong, on the 4th line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I'm really not a fan of Henrique at center. I'd much rather put Elias back at center than force Henrique to play a position he clearly isn't capable of, especially knowing that line is going to get tough assignments. Elias can't win offensive zone faceoffs (or faceoffs in general) and that's a problem. Henrique can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Why are we combing this over? The Devils shouldn't ice an optimal lineup. Not because they're trying to lose, but because they need to see what they have for next year. Playing Henrique at center is totally fine. They'll see that he's not a center and perhaps can address it in the coming months/years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Why are we combing this over? The Devils shouldn't ice an optimal lineup. Not because they're trying to lose, but because they need to see what they have for next year. Playing Henrique at center is totally fine. They'll see that he's not a center and perhaps can address it in the coming months/years. This is a good point. But more than anything, the Devils shouldn't ice an optimal lineup because that is what they have been trying to do, and they have lost 4 straight anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsrule33 Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 If they haven't figured out that Henrique isn't a center (which I suppose they have not already), I don't know what to say (their just not able to see what's right in front of them, and it's been a serious problem over the last few years). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) If they haven't figured out that Henrique isn't a center (which I suppose they have not already), I don't know what to say (their just not able to see what's right in front of them, and it's been a serious problem over the last few years). He can't carry a line. I do think it's possible that if NJ had a shot generator/puck carrier on his line that he could play a decent 3rd line role, maybe. Like if they got Tyler Kennedy. Cammalleri's definitely not a center, though. Edited February 17, 2015 by Triumph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) This team knows Henrique can't play center. They also realize on this team he has to. Geez it's time for the Devils to get a real center. Edited February 17, 2015 by Neb00rs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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