Elias26 Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 TheHockeyNews 5. Bryce Salvador, D, New Jersey (Four years, $11.6 million). People mercilessly ripped Leafs interim GM Cliff Fletcher for signing 28-year-old former Avs defenseman Finger to a four-year deal, one that may yet come to haunt Toronto. But nobody said much when the Devils shelled out nearly $3 million a season for 32-year-old Salvador, a Blues castoff who has never amassed more than 12 points in a single season.Granted, putting up points isn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theamazingtiny Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Was it really that bad of a signing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellOnICE Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 I'm not sure what the point is. Is it the length of the contract? If so, these writers have to realize you can dump these contracts in the minors, or this contract won't be a huge buyout if it comes to that. There's ways out this contract. It's not that carzy, considering the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deek_1969 Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 sure it was a lot of money for a non scoring D man, but Lou probably gave him the extra $$$ to get that crazy NMC idea out of his head. Bryce will probably play 60-65 games, so how is $2.9per not a bad signing for a guy with his skill level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 4 of the 5 players are defenseman. I think the guy who wrote the article just doesn't get that since there are so few quality defenseman that they get more of a premium than forwards do. BTW, I thought the general concensus was that the Finger signing was probably the most out there, even if not for the largest dollars, but that only made honorable mention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaneykoIsGod Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Blues castoff? He makes it sound as if he was ridden out of town on a rail. It must be nice to get paid to make stuff up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squishyx Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 sure it was a lot of money for a non scoring D man, but Lou probably gave him the extra $$$ to get that crazy NMC idea out of his head. Bryce will probably play 60-65 games, so how is $2.9per not a bad signing for a guy with his skill level? what skill? I don't understand the fascination with this guy when we have 3-4 D just like him. An upgrade is an upgrade I suppose but it was too much for too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmigliore Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 no more than 12 points per season? i dunno if i could possibly be right but last time i checked defense is supposed to play DEFENSE. Why is this bum critizing Salvador's offensive skills? Hes not a forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deek_1969 Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 what skill? I don't understand the fascination with this guy when we have 3-4 D just like him. An upgrade is an upgrade I suppose but it was too much for too long. Exactly what I said. So how is 2.9 for a guy who will play 3/4 of the year NOT a bad signing. Of course it is a lot for his skill level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeeter Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Oh this guy just takes whatever Holland says as gospel now, because he's the GM of the Stanley Cup Champions and has managed to now sign Hossa. Holland is the genius of the month, much like Lou used to be. I heard Holland's comments on XM and he basically said that he doesn't believe in paying guys like defensive defensemen a lot because that's all they do, they defend. They can only offer one thing to the team. I guess in his eyes Johnny Oduya should get paid more than a Scott Stevens then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatansDevils Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Not suprised here by the Salvador contract being in the top 5. Lou paid too much to keep Salvador. I thought Redden would be #1 but #2 is just as bad I guess. Suprised to see Hainsey there at #1. I like Hainsey and he will do good for Atlanta. Naslund should have been in the top 5 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 guess in his eyes Johnny Oduya should get paid more than a Scott Stevens then. Well no, because as great as Stevens defense was his offense was tremendous as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanity_gallops Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Surprised that the Finger deal only gets dishonorable mention here, while Salvador makes the list. Other deals that need to be mentioned: Niklas Hagman (4 years, $12mil for a guy who'll be lucky to crack 20 goals on the Leafs) Steve Avery (4 years, $15.5mil with a no-movement clause) Kristian Huselieus (4 years, $19 mil... but I guess they had to replace the streakiness of Zherdev somehow, eh?) Miroslav Satan (1 year for... $3.5 million? Really? The 2007-2008 version of Satan?), Arron Asham (multi-year deal... who's got the $ numbers?) Oh yeah, and how about the RYAN MALONE signing, hm? No? No disdain for throwing that much money at a complementary player? Good deals/bargains: Brooks Orpik (6 years, $22.5 million) Mark Eaton (2 years, $4m) Olaf Kolzig (1 year, $1.5m + bonuses) Patrick Lalime (2 years, $2mil) Todd Bertuzzi (1 year, $1.95 mil) Deal that I still can't quite figure out: Blackhawks signing of Huet. So... for this upcoming season they have $12m committed to their goaltending rotation? What, are they just praying Khabibulan gets hurt badly enough to go on LTIR? I know Huet is a puck-stopper and all, but did they really feel that no other good goalie will come along after Khabi and a stop-gap for another year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squishyx Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Trade habby at the deadline to a team in dire need for a playoff goalie (there's always one or more). Sure he has another year left in him but what makes you think there would be a Huet available next year? i think it was a smart move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brodeurrocks Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Oh this guy just takes whatever Holland says as gospel now, because he's the GM of the Stanley Cup Champions and has managed to now sign Hossa. Holland is the genius of the month, much like Lou used to be. I heard Holland's comments on XM and he basically said that he doesn't believe in paying guys like defensive defensemen a lot because that's all they do, they defend. They can only offer one thing to the team. I guess in his eyes Johnny Oduya should get paid more than a Scott Stevens then. Well put Skeeter. Add to this the chemistry and make up of a team. Would Lou have rathered he had a offensive minded puck moving D-Man to throw money at? My guess would be yes but you need Bryce Salvadors on your team to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 The Salvador signing is still pretty terrible, all things considered. However, when you compare it to deals like the McKee or Mitchell deal of years past, or even the Finger deal of this season, it's not all that bad. I suspect the Devils value Salvador a bit too highly, but they shopped at the Vishnevski aisle before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansz15 Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 (edited) Not sure if I agree with how much Lou shelled out a season for Salvador (no better than a 4 at best?), but I think the signing makes sense for this reason: Martin, Greene, and Salmela are all offensive minded. Having White, Salvador, and whoever else helps anchor that with the more defensive mindset in the third pair. I do like it somewhat, it will help allow each pair to fully exploit their assets. Edited July 11, 2008 by dansz15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanity_gallops Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Trade habby at the deadline to a team in dire need for a playoff goalie (there's always one or more). Sure he has another year left in him but what makes you think there would be a Huet available next year? i think it was a smart move. Another Huet, no. But next year's top UFA goalies include Ryan Miller, Niklas Backstrom, and Mike Smith. Again, maybe it was a smart move, but it left me scratching my head a bit, 's all I'm sayin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squishyx Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Another Huet, no.But next year's top UFA goalies include Ryan Miller, Niklas Backstrom, and Mike Smith. Again, maybe it was a smart move, but it left me scratching my head a bit, 's all I'm sayin'. I'd be surprised if any of those made it to july 1st unless they collapse, in which case no one would want them anyway Besides by trading Habby this year they basically can get something for nothing even if its just a 2nd or 3rd pick at the expense of 6m instead of loosing him for nothing. That seems like a lot but its also extra security in case Huet gets hurt or has a bad season etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelastonealive Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Arron Asham (multi-year deal... who's got the $ numbers?) I'm going off the top of my head here but I believe I read that the Asham deal was around $655,000 per season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yort44 Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 [5. Bryce Salvador, D, New Jersey (Four years, $11.6 million). People mercilessly ripped Leafs interim GM Cliff Fletcher for signing 28-year-old former Avs defenseman Finger to a four-year deal, one that may yet come to haunt Toronto. But nobody said much when the Devils shelled out nearly $3 million a season for 32-year-old Salvador, a Blues castoff who has never amassed more than 12 points in a single season. Granted, putting up points isn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prucenterrules Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 (edited) I think the Salvador deal was a good deal that will help the team. It is a bit to much money but hey this is the NEW NHL which I thought was supposed to prevent players making rediculous amounts of money Anyway, last season we didn't have someone that could move guys out of the front of the net. Salvador is a big guy who can hit and move guys out of the way of Brodeur. So that all Marty or Kevin has to think about is stoping the puck. Edited July 13, 2008 by Prucenterrules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestevens Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Salvadors deal is a year or two more than what it should have been. Luckily, at worst he gets dumped to the minors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adavid Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Quite honestly, I dont think I ever got a feel for how Salvador plays in his games for the Devs to know whether it was a good deal or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxpower Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Jason Smith getting $2.6M twice was worse. The writer should have waited a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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