'7' Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 ...and the Devils to win in 4. I'd say Devils in 5 same for a series vs. the Rags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickman Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 (edited) Redden and Morris in the same defensive unit Over hyped and overpaid. Edited March 4, 2009 by SickMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Fan Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 The rags make me laugh as those acquisitions won't push them on top, plus their playoff hopes are slim because they will face the Flyers 4 more times. Their schedule is tough and there is a good chance they'll miss the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBDEVSFAN Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 You guys are kinda missing the point on carcillo though he's not a huge pickup, however If he can be a "Clarkson" for them that's an upgrade for them. Upshall wasn't great partly because John Stevens held him back. Clarkson has made a real big impact on our team this year. 30+ points top tier in Scaps. He does it all a grinder with offense. Philly does have 4 - "Middleweights" and I don't really a centerman out of those 4. I think this move may put Cote in the same place as Rupp is now which is on the outside looking in. Cote is turned useless, he gets the tar beat out of him and doesn't really fight or hit much which was the only way he was effective. For many teams this is an upgrade but for Philly eh it's alright. BTW the diffrence between Carcillo and Avery is Avery is a bitch, Carcillo isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Fan Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 You guys are kinda missing the point on carcillo though he's not a huge pickup, however If he can be a "Clarkson" for them that's an upgrade for them. Upshall wasn't great partly because John Stevens held him back. Clarkson has made a real big impact on our team this year. 30+ points top tier in Scaps. He does it all a grinder with offense. Philly does have 4 - "Middleweights" and I don't really a centerman out of those 4. I think this move may put Cote in the same place as Rupp is now which is on the outside looking in. Cote is turned useless, he gets the tar beat out of him and doesn't really fight or hit much which was the only way he was effective. For many teams this is an upgrade but for Philly eh it's alright.BTW the diffrence between Carcillo and Avery is Avery is a bitch, Carcillo isn't. But their goalie chokes anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBDEVSFAN Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 lol yeah I guess it don't really matter then plus those 4th liners Asham-Carcillo-Cote aren't very Intimidating defensively, with a sh!t goalie to boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockingTheRed81 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 So now that the tradeline has come and gone and Clemmer is still a Devil does that mean they will call him up and send Weekes down or can Weekes still be claimed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Fan Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 So now that the tradeline has come and gone and Clemmer is still a Devil does that mean they will call him up and send Weekes down or can Weekes still be claimed? Lou won't do it because what is the point of bringing Clemmer back up??? Brodeur is gonna play majority of the remaining games and Weekes won his last 5 starts with a GAA lower than 2.00. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouse Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Carcillo and McLaren were born to be Flyers. That team is going to hurt some people...but these trades really didn't make them better on the ice. But if we see them in the playoffs, prepare for a lot of Devils getting run from behind, hit up high, elbowed. We still have Sal, Clarkie and Rupp. I know fighting dies down in the playoffs, but theyre not gonna run us at will without payback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceThief Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 So now that the tradeline has come and gone and Clemmer is still a Devil does that mean they will call him up and send Weekes down or can Weekes still be claimed? Clem is stuck in the minors. He won't be back up unless Marty or Weekes is injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolkoreankid23 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 I really hope Clemmer gets himself a nice contract in the off-season. The guy deserves it. I feel bad that he has to rot in the minors after playing so well to keep the Devils right in the mix for the top spot in the Eastern Conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallidevils Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 There's a fine line between an early round exit and winning the cup. Standing still on trading deadline has NOT proved to be a successful strategy for us the past 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilNurn Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 There's a fine line between an early round exit and winning the cup. Standing still on trading deadline has NOT proved to be a successful strategy for us the past 5 years. Neither has being overly active. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilinLA Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 There's a fine line between an early round exit and winning the cup. Standing still on trading deadline has NOT proved to be a successful strategy for us the past 5 years. I'm sorry, it just grates me. Its like a Droopy Dog cartoon with the pessimism no matter waht the situation. Amazing after the season we've had, players stepping up, success despite pitfalls, adding a nice depth defensman....and people like you and El Diablo still running your mouths and bitching about Lou. We haven't seen a team with depth like this in 5 years. You should be ashamed you sound like spoiled brats. What did you really want? Pronger, Neids, J-Bou? What were you willing to part with?..... A 5th round conditional pick?....please Come On. Sorry your stuck with an elite TEAM that plays like a TEAM. It'll have to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaira_Devil_#9 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 I have gotta say i was dissapointed with the whole thing, and i can see this happening pretty much every year now, its going to be really really difficult to move anyone mid season. The best time of the year for movement from now on is going to be in the Summer and around the draft. There were far to many MEH trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 There's a fine line between an early round exit and winning the cup. Standing still on trading deadline has NOT proved to be a successful strategy for us the past 5 years. that reasoning is so poor - i'm not sure why you think that that statement reveals anything at all (besdies the fallacy that new jersey has stood still on deadline day when the only year they didn't make a move was 2007). besides, it was successful in 2003. and if you think 'the devils didn't stand still, they got marshall, etc.', go read the archives. everyone here, i think me included, were disappointed with the haul. where does this team need an upgrade and how could it have gotten one? nowhere. no one traded yesterday would have helped new jersey win more games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdevil26 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 There's a fine line between an early round exit and winning the cup. Standing still on trading deadline has NOT proved to be a successful strategy for us the past 5 years. The Devils didn't exactly stand still. They got a 35 year old defensive rental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hattrick Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 The Devils didn't exactly stand still. They got a 35 year old defensive rental. The best acquistion the Devils got was MB30 returning in net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatansDevils Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 The best acquistion the Devils got was MB30 returning in net. Not just getting Brodeur back and signing Havelid, who may sign a year or two deal in the off season like Salvador did. Lou went out and got Shanahan, Holik and Rolston. It may not be at the TDL, but he did go out and get players to make this team a lot better than it was the last few seasons. I am fine that Lou stood pat at the TDL yesterday. havelid was a big pick up and will help this team the rest of the way. There were many other teams going after Havelid and Lou got him sooner than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevRickus Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 What does this mean for Gionta? Is he gone after the season? He might not even score 20 goals this season but do you think some team will be crazy enough to give him 4-5 million per because they think they can get more out of him? At what price would you be willing to bring him back? Same for Madden? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallidevils Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 The Devils didn't exactly stand still. They got a 35 year old defensive rental. I mean why just have a pretty old team, we may as well have a REALLY old team! What bothers me about this is that we traded a young player with probably a decent potential, for someone who is 35 and clearly a rental. If we're making an obvious cup run this year, we should have made a bit more of an effort at the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 I mean why just have a pretty old team, we may as well have a REALLY old team!What bothers me about this is that we traded a young player with probably a decent potential, for someone who is 35 and clearly a rental. If we're making an obvious cup run this year, we should have made a bit more of an effort at the deadline. Like what? I don't see any amazing moves that the Devils should have made. Maybe Jokinen? I guess, but I don't see him making enough difference to the Devils to trade what it would have taken to get the deal done. The Devils semi-recently added Marty, Shanny, and Havelid as all additions to the roster with no substractions. That seems like a pretty good haul for just giving up a prospect defenseman who probably has 2 other prospects at about the same level of worth with the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 I mean why just have a pretty old team, we may as well have a REALLY old team!What bothers me about this is that we traded a young player with probably a decent potential, for someone who is 35 and clearly a rental. If we're making an obvious cup run this year, we should have made a bit more of an effort at the deadline. WHAT???? Alexander Suglobov was supposed have pretty decent potential too. We traded a player who probably won't make our roster even next year for a guy how is built for the playoffs. You play to win the Cup. Lou acquired a player that makes THIS TEAM better RIGHT in the quest to win the ultimate prize. Hats off to Lou for once again putting us in a position to win this thing again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Like what? I don't see any amazing moves that the Devils should have made. Maybe Jokinen? I guess, but I don't see him making enough difference to the Devils to trade what it would have taken to get the deal done.The Devils semi-recently added Marty, Shanny, and Havelid as all additions to the roster with no substractions. That seems like a pretty good haul for just giving up a prospect defenseman who probably has 2 other prospects at about the same level of worth with the team. don't you see? new jersey gave up a young player, and that's bad, so clearly the solution is to give up more young players. i can't even imagine what a jokinen to new jersey package looks like - clarkson, greene, 1st, zharkov? probably, and even then, new jersey doesn't have anyone as overrated as matthew lombardi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdevil26 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 I mean why just have a pretty old team, we may as well have a REALLY old team!What bothers me about this is that we traded a young player with probably a decent potential, for someone who is 35 and clearly a rental. If we're making an obvious cup run this year, we should have made a bit more of an effort at the deadline. Yeah but it's not like we are looking for a future in Havelid. The Devils gave up a defenseman that looks completely lost in his own zone. I liked Salmela's offense and was sad to see him go but Anssi is not going to help the Devils in the playoffs this year. Havelid will. The farm system has a few promising guys in Corrente, Eckford, Fraser, and others. Martin is a keeper as is Oduya. White and Salvador are signed long term. This trade was a depth move and can only help the team. Yeah it makes us even older, but only for two months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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