Beezer34 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Who cares what Rangers fans try to say?!?!? That is totally irrelevant. ...it's not irrelevant at all. It's an analogy based on fans trying to discredit a goalie, with the team playing in front of him used as their argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeCups Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 ...it's not irrelevant at all. It's an analogy based on fans trying to discredit a goalie, with the team playing in front of him used as their argument. Yes it is. You are comparing what irrational RANGERS fans say to discredit Marty to what people are saying about Luongo with Canada now? Please show me where the Devils averaged 7.33 goals/game for. It is obvious that Luongo did not see the competition Brodeur did, AND he got nearly TRIPLE the goal support on top of it! 7.33 GOALS/FOR GAME > 2.5 GOALS/FOR GAME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickman Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 ...............yes......I do......... because I'm the one typing it as I write it......................... then I post it. Do you actually look at the computer after you turn it on? You should have read the 23 11 save shutout post more carefully then. You're way off and its not even close, unless Brodeur posted 22 of those shutouts between 1994 and 2001. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezer34 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) Yes it is. You are comparing what irrational RANGERS fans say to discredit Marty to what people are saying about Luongo with Canada now? Please show me where the Devils averaged 7.33 goals/game for. It is obvious that Luongo did not see the competition Brodeur did, AND he got nearly TRIPLE the goal support on top of it! 7.33 GOALS/FOR GAME > 2.5 GOALS/FOR GAME It's a substitutive argument based on success Anthony. Luongo's statistics are being torn down based on Canada's bread & butter; goal scoring. Replace *goal-scoring with *neutral-zone-trap, and you have the exact same argument, in why Brodeur was neglected all those Vezina's. Edited February 25, 2010 by Beezer34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Did anyone see what Boyle just did to Semin? If he did that in an NHL game, he'd be scheduled for reconstructive facial surgery about a half an hour from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSC Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) That Boyle is only getting a minor after that slew foot is a joke, imo. That is ridiculously dangerous... Edited February 25, 2010 by RSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TackleDummy Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Does Boyle get a suspension for that? I missed it and don't know if the puck was anywhere near Semin when Boyle took him down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSC Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Does Boyle get a suspension for that? I missed it and don't know if the puck was anywhere near Semin when Boyle took him down. Probably not. If he was given a game misconduct for that then yes, he would get suspended, but since it was only an offsetting minor, I doubt there will be any repercussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 I swear, I hope the Swedes just embaress these a$$holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Does Boyle get a suspension for that? I missed it and don't know if the puck was anywhere near Semin when Boyle took him down. It wasn't. Really dirty play, I'll be surprised if Boyle doesn't get suspended, he made that play completely just to do something illegal to Semin, and do a play that is dangerous enough that it can cause a lot of harm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeCups Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 It's a substitutive argument based on success Anthony. Luongo's statistics are being torn down based on Canada's bread & butter; goal scoring. Replace *goal-scoring with *neutral-zone-trap, and you have the exact same argument, in why Brodeur was neglected all those Vezina's. Terrible argument. You cannot associate any NUMBERS with the stupid NZT argument. You can DEFINE Canada's goal scoring in the games Luongo played, and it is 23 total over 3 games. (8, 8, 7) 7.66 GOALS/GAME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezer34 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) 3-0 record, with a 1.65 GAA. vs 1-1 record, with a 3.00 GAA. The Canadians are one victory away from playing in the Gold Medal game... Babcock aint lamenting benching Marty, trust me. Those are some seriously flawed stats. ...the games over, are my stats okay now? btw, I read this post prior to posting. Edited February 25, 2010 by Beezer34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njmar Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Boyle thought Semin's hit on him was late, so he slew footed him. I didn't think Boyle was a dirty player, but he sure was on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Boyle thought Semin's hit on him was late, so he slew footed him. I didn't think Boyle was a dirty player, but he sure was on that one. If he did that to Ovechkin, he'd be choking on his teeth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeCups Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 If he did that to Ovechkin, he'd be choking on his teeth. Too bad Semin is a huge puss and just took it....I was hoping for some type of entertaining scrap there after I watched a terrible game.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
American_Psycho Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Semin's hit on Boyle wasn't late at all. This is a late hit: Boyle should be reprimanded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezer34 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Terrible argument. You cannot associate any NUMBERS with the stupid NZT argument. You can DEFINE Canada's goal scoring in the games Luongo played, and it is 23 total over 3 games. (8, 8, 7) 7.66 GOALS/GAME ...the analogy was perfect. It's the same argument. A fan taking the point-of-view that the goalie position is that of a passenger, based on being a product of their teams scoring, defense, scheme, whatever. At the end of the day, bellyaching is bellyaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Oh, Semin was chippy at the end? Wasn't that the same type of hits Canada was throwing earlier in the game along with praise? Oh, right, Semin is supposed to not do legal things because the score of the game is out of hand. I agree it's probably not needed for Semin to have killed Boyle but I can't kill him like he did something illegal and then excuse a pretty dangerous play afterward because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njmar Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Semin's hit on Boyle wasn't late at all. This is a late hit: Boyle should be reprimanded. I didn't say it was late, I agree with you. I said Boyle thought it was late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msweet Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Did anyone see what Boyle just did to Semin? If he did that in an NHL game, he'd be scheduled for reconstructive facial surgery about a half an hour from now. first of all the announcers were such homers it was almost impossible to listen to The Semin hit was legal The Boyle slew foot should result in his death... pos Millbury just called the Russians Euro trash... OMG.. and Roenick agreed.. said the Russians were intimidated from the beginning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
American_Psycho Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 I didn't say it was late, I agree with you. I said Boyle thought it was late. Yeah, I know, the announcers thought it was late too. Wasn't replying to your comment. At least Kovalchuk gets some rest in, hopefully he can refocus on his role with the Devils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Too bad Semin is a huge puss and just took it....I was hoping for some type of entertaining scrap there after I watched a terrible game.... I'm honestly surprised no one else from their team went after Boyle. I would've broken his fvcking eye sockets for pulling a bullsh!t move like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeCups Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) ...the analogy was perfect. It's the same argument. A fan taking the point-of-view that the goalie position is that of a passenger, based on being a product of their teams scoring, defense, scheme, whatever. At the end of the day, bellyaching is bellyaching. They are NOT analogous as much as you want us to believe that they are. This whole thing started when people pointed out that A. Brodeur played much tougher opposition than Luongo did up until this point and B. They scored ALOT more goals for Lu than Marty. (7.66/game vs 2.5/game) YOU tried to incorporate all of these other arguments that have NOTHING to do with what we were talking about. People are praising Luongo as if he is some savior. Marty could have done EXACTLY what he did in those 3 games. (all he had to do was allow 7 goals or less in each of the first 2 games, and 6 goals or less tonight) EDIT: You may be able to get an application for the Official "He Man Brodeur Haters Club" from LucifersDog... Edited February 25, 2010 by ThreeCups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Milbury and Roenick are f'n jokes. So, slew footing is perfectly acceptable if you felt the hit you just took was unnecessary late in a hockey game? Absolute bull. That's as bad as when Crosby cheapshotted and low-blowed that guy in a fight last year because he thought he may have tweaked his knee when the guy hit him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 first of all the announcers were such homers it was almost impossible to listen to The Semin hit was legal The Boyle slew foot should result in his death... pos Millbury just called the Russians Euro trash... OMG.. and Roenick agreed.. said the Russians were intimidated from the beginning Yeah, when the fvck did "Edzo" become a Canadian? There was absolutely nothing wrong with Semin's hit on Boyle, but to listen to Olczyk talk about it you would've thought Semin stabbed Boyle in the face with a machete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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