Pepperkorn Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 wtf???? 17 years? are you aware this guy is 27? just what we need, a 44 year old dead weight. anyone see shades of larionov in this? Now what do we say to patty? (you know lou is going to let him walk in 2 years) or to the bevy of centers we have laying in wait in our farm system? Hey I love the guy, but I'd have taken him for 5 years, 10 mil/per. Lou I think has gone insane. why the heck do we need another left wing? If we dont win the cup in the next two years, I see this coming back to bite us. Where have you been? Read the board - read how the contract hits the books - read about the little out clause Lou snuck in there. and -- I think he was being facetious with that 17 years to perfect it thing Kick back, have a cold frosty There'll be plenty to get your panties in a bunch about soon enough I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainScotty Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 elias has underperformed in any role other than left wing. i think parise is better on the right than elias. I think he played right wing with gomer his first two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Hey I love the guy, but I'd have taken him for 5 years, 10 mil/per. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteyNice Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 wtf???? 17 years? are you aware this guy is 27? just what we need, a 44 year old dead weight. anyone see shades of larionov in this? Now what do we say to patty? (you know lou is going to let him walk in 2 years) or to the bevy of centers we have laying in wait in our farm system? Hey I love the guy, but I'd have taken him for 5 years, 10 mil/per. Lou I think has gone insane. why the heck do we need another left wing? If we dont win the cup in the next two years, I see this coming back to bite us. You understand that he won't be playing then right? If anything it is a 10 year/60M (cap hit) deal. After that his salary drops considerably and he will likely retire. It is still a long time but for the money it is excellent. As for Elias you re-sign for a lot less since it would be an over 35 deal or you let him walk. There is no way he commands a similar contract at that age, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amberite Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Wow you just keep them coming. lou has effectively mortgaged the future. You do realize that Kovalchuk's cap hit is $6M right? As Brooks pointed out, that would only be the 5th highest salary on the NYR. if josefson and tedenby turn out to be all that, no way we keep all of these guys. By that time, Langs, Elias, Zubrus, Rolston and a bevy of other players will be off the books. secondly, parise was a way way higher priority. how the heck does uncle lou top this? By signing Parise to an identical 17 year contract? or does he shortchange parise? or maybe he lowballs the guy because he cant put up the points kovy can? Parise can produce the same points Kovalchuk can, and will get a similar contract. at 17 years we cant jettison this guy either. Right, because no team would want a 90+ pointer at $6M/year. Definitely not the Rangers. let me reiterate, I love kovy on the team. But we gotta think bigger things. a number one dman, a number one center, a decent right wing not named langenbrunner. (A replacement for MARTY??) And I'd like to have a million dollars. There is no perfect team in the league. or maybe we intend to win every game 10-9. That's funny, I thought our defense (which already had the lowest GA last year) got better this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 lou has effectively mortgaged the future. if josefson and tedenby turn out to be all that, no way we keep all of these guys. secondly, parise was a way way higher priority. how the heck does uncle lou top this? or does he shortchange parise? or maybe he lowballs the guy because he cant put up the points kovy can? at 17 years we cant jettison this guy either. let me reiterate, I love kovy on the team. But we gotta think bigger things. a number one dman, a number one center, a decent right wing not named langenbrunner. (A replacement for MARTY??) or maybe we intend to win every game 10-9. What in god's holy name are you blathering about? The whole point of the long term deal like this is that you have the cap space and don't have to low ball players in the future. Josefson/Tedenby? You do realize they don't hit unrestricted free agency for something like SEVEN YEARS. They've got some time to figure that one out. I could go on, but I'll let Joe Clark do the talking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepperkorn Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 (edited) Here -- check this out Captain Scotty -- I love your handle so I'll never speak ill of you. Plus you obviously haven't been here in a while and this is all on you like a ton of bricks -- so check out Tri's post : Tri's salary breakdown Edited July 20, 2010 by Pepperkorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainScotty Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 k, ill admit, i havent done my homework.., I just saw the bloomberg ticker, there were no contract details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepperkorn Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 k, ill admit, i havent done my homework.., I just saw the bloomberg ticker, there were no contract details. Yep -- been there, done that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 (edited) Love the new banner. Dear DM: I love the banner but as the Keeper of Kovy I feel it is my duty to pathetically politely beg request that something Kovy be added to thefront page permanentally. Edited July 20, 2010 by ben00rs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justdo3043 Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 hhmmmm.. think about the Kovi vs. Ovi match-ups coming!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theamazingtiny Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Whatever you do don't go read the comments on TSN. Just a bunch of canadian fans bitching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilMinder Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Dear DM: I love the banner but as the Keeper of Kovy I feel it is my duty to pathetically politely beg request that something Kovy be added to thefront page permanentally. I leave the real banners to UnderDogX since his skills are way beyond mine and we wanna stay professional looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 (edited) I leave the real banners to UnderDogX since his skills are way beyond mine and we wanna stay professional looking. Dear UnderDogX: CC: DM I love the banner but as the Keeper of Kovy I feel it is my duty to pathetically politely beg request that something Kovy be added to thefront page permanentally. Fixed. Edited July 20, 2010 by ben00rs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prucenterrules Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Still cannot believe this. Man this has been an awesome offseason so far for Devils fans. Is it October 8th yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfsharkalligatorhalfman Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Hi Guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theamazingtiny Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Who can sleep honestly? So excited... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullshockey247 Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Can someone explain why he is only making $6 million the next 2 years before jumping up to 11.5? I'm confizzled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Who can sleep honestly? So excited... You mean before October or just tonight? Just checking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdevs89 Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Why 17 years though? Most players who play into their late 40's are defencemen, not Russians who will break down in their mid 30's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prucenterrules Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Why 17 years though? Most players who play into their late 40's are defencemen, not Russians who will break down in their mid 30's... It's for the cap hit to be low. He will retire before he's 40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepperkorn Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Why 17 years though? Most players who play into their late 40's are defencemen, not Russians who will break down in their mid 30's... Can we please get a Cap F.A.Q. up and running somewhere? There's no point explaining how it works over and over again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeCups Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 It is amazing how many people on here do not realize why the deal was structured as it is, and believe that the signing of Kovy means we will not retain Zach. WAKE UP PEOPLE! We will 100% lock Zach up long term, COUNT ON IT! Lou is not an idiot, and once ZP is signed longterm, we will have 2 of the top 10 forwards in the game playing for the DEVILS for years to come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelastonealive Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Can someone explain why he is only making $6 million the next 2 years before jumping up to 11.5? I'm confizzled. My guess is in deference to Brodeur. Marty will remain the highest paid Devil until his contract runs out, then Kovy takes over that mantle. Also, a load of money comes off the books that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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