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thanks for asking! i’m 100% now, and my wife never tested positive.

Lafreniere reminds me a bit of John Tavares. Lafreniere has more bite and physicality to his game, but the offensive tools are a dead ringer to Tavares for me. Byfield reminds of Eric Staal in hi

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2 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

i think Detroit will pick Drysdale and that Ottawa will pick Rossy. So let's not hope too much for these 2 lol we've got our expectations crushed enough recently lol

On an episode of 31 Thoughts, Sam Cosentino was talking about who he thought would go where.  He slotted Cole Perfetti at 4 and he mentioned that "the ties between Detroit and Perfetti are too much to ignore".. whatever that means.

The episode is from June 27th and the sound clip came from his analysis that starts around 47:30 - worth a listen

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6 minutes ago, Crisis said:

On an episode of 31 Thoughts, Sam Cosentino was talking about who he thought would go where.  He slotted Cole Perfetti at 4 and he mentioned that "the ties between Detroit and Perfetti are too much to ignore".. whatever that means.

The episode is from June 27th and the sound clip came from his analysis that starts around 47:30 - worth a listen

yeah i JUST read something similar in the youtube comment of a Perfetti scouting video 

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It’s looking like it now. He’s the only one I’ve heard who’s had any connection at all to Detroit. I think I’d prefer Raymond but it’s rumored that he’s going to Ottawa at 5. Detroit seems to really like Perfetti, which I’m warming up to."

Not sure what that connection is? But i also remember hearing that Detroit was the team Drysdale talked to the most or something?

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17 minutes ago, Crisis said:

On an episode of 31 Thoughts, Sam Cosentino was talking about who he thought would go where.  He slotted Cole Perfetti at 4 and he mentioned that "the ties between Detroit and Perfetti are too much to ignore".. whatever that means.

The episode is from June 27th and the sound clip came from his analysis that starts around 47:30 - worth a listen

He goes on and around 52:00 gives his breakdown of picks.

1. NYR - Lafreniere
2. Los Angeles - Stutzle
3. Ottawa - Byfield
4. Detroit - Perfetti (he actually called this as much of a lock as Lafreniere)
5. Ottawa - Drysdale (said this could change and be Sanderson)
6. Anaheim - Sanderson (Drysdale if Sens take Sanderson)
7. NJD - Rossi
8. Buffalo - Raymond

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7 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

yeah i JUST read something similar in the youtube comment of a Perfetti scouting video 

Not sure what that connection is? But i also remember hearing that Detroit was the team Drysdale talked to the most or something?

Heard this too.  Very possible I heard it here or even from you ha.  Or a case of deja entendu, I suppose.

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Detroit drafted Seider and Antti Tuomisto year ago. They had good year. Hronek is right handed young puck mover, Lindstrom is right handed defensman.  They have lack of depth in LD, Yzerman is an old school gm and he likes to draft big guys. My bet he will draft Sanderson. May be Rossi, or Perfetti after them. In that order.

An interesting detail - Perfetti passed three interviews with Detroit. This is a likely option. And there is a small chance that we can expect a surprise - Askarov. Yzerman pick is the biggest and most intriguing mystery for me. But Sanderson.

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We will watch draft with my red wings friends and if Detroit will draft Perfetti - i will open champagne bottle. My red winged friends won't understand why I'm so happy for them.

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It would be quite a gift that Detroit would draft him as it would open up possibilities for us and i dont think Cole was the right fit for us anyway.

I'd pick Drysdale, Rossi, Raymond or Holtz before him. Then if they go... then we'd have to pick between 2 of those 4 vs picking whichever remains at 7

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So what happens to the lineup if we draft Rossi?  I think it's a fair question to ask after drafting two 1OA centers.  Would Rossi play 3rd line with Zacha on a wing and Travis in the 4 spot?  I know it's cart before the horse conversation but I have nothing better to do.

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19 minutes ago, Crisis said:

So what happens to the lineup if we draft Rossi?  I think it's a fair question to ask after drafting two 1OA centers.  Would Rossi play 3rd line with Zacha on a wing and Travis in the 4 spot?  I know it's cart before the horse conversation but I have nothing better to do.

would make sense to switch him to the wing. He could probably develop into our own version of Mitch Marner

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Like I said if we will draft him, and I think we will, I will his number one fan after that.

 

scouching is a great youtuber with great analysis. And I like his stream too, because he gave more context. But I recommend watching the shift by shift video at least. Look at stat and on partners. For example there are a lot highlight video of zary, but his shift by shift video reveals the dark side of his game. He play with top partners and he is overeager. Greig is a far better option. 

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1 hour ago, Guadana said:

Like I said if we will draft him, and I think we will, I will his number one fan after that.

 

scouching is a great youtuber with great analysis. And I like his stream too, because he gave more context. But I recommend watching the shift by shift video at least. Look at stat and on partners. For example there are a lot highlight video of zary, but his shift by shift video reveals the dark side of his game. He play with top partners and he is overeager. Greig is a far better option. 

ah you mean like PK Subban? lol

That's literally it though haha people see his highlights and man is he ever exciting with his spinoramas. But when you actually watch him play full games on a regular basis...

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57 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

ah you mean like PK Subban? lol

That's literally it though haha people see his highlights and man is he ever exciting with his spinoramas. But when you actually watch him play full games on a regular basis...

I think perreault can be the subban guy, if we talk about subban how you see him. Not about subbans funny talks, more about play of course. But he has potential to be the best scorer in our team. 

Zary isn't flashy in any aspects, he has bad skating and he doesn't create much dangerous chances in his line. When we talk about line with three good players - that may be a red flag. He isn't good and he isn't accurate in passes. I think he has big potential to be a good third line player, but he hasn't enough in his bag to be the first line player. 

Greig will be Gallagher type of player. And he is young, he has 30 points in his last 20 games. And he can take 90-100 points next season easily. In the same age like Rossi, Zary or other overagers. For a guy who will be picked in 22-44 range. It could be a classic steal. 

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16 hours ago, Nicomo said:

I say put him on Jack’s wing just to see @Guadana have a meltdown. :P

Is it possible to rotate him at C rather than moving him to a wing? I'm not sure if that helps or hurts developing at that level. Skilled centers are so coveted it would be a shame to just throw that away having him at wing full time. It can only benefit NJ to have 3 elite centers that can slot into basically any spot in the lineup. 

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1 hour ago, NJDevils1214 said:

Is it possible to rotate him at C rather than moving him to a wing? I'm not sure if that helps or hurts developing at that level. Skilled centers are so coveted it would be a shame to just throw that away having him at wing full time. It can only benefit NJ to have 3 elite centers that can slot into basically any spot in the lineup. 

Ultimately though, you can’t waste an elite centerman on a third line. You’d also have to give the ice time and wingers needed to keep him happy. You’d also end up spending a lot on a third liner. Best to shift him to wing.

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I'd like to see us draft a winger or  (Sanderson/Drysdale). we've got Nico, Jack, & Travis for a while.  Fitz will listen to me on this, i'll speak to him tomorrow.

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3 hours ago, devlman said:

Ultimately though, you can’t waste an elite centerman on a third line. You’d also have to give the ice time and wingers needed to keep him happy. You’d also end up spending a lot on a third liner. Best to shift him to wing.

I wouldn't put him on a real 3rd line in any traditional sense. I would cycle him at center and wing to get the best match up I can. The traditional idea of line numbers being an indication of overall value and ice time isn't as apt as it was in previous eras. Most teams now roll 4 lines that can be dangerous, or at least 3 with 1 shutdown line. 

Imagine having 3 elite centers for your powerplay/pk units or being able to cycle into your top 2 wing pairs one of 3 elite centers to shake things up and keep the other team on their toes. It just makes more sense to go with what makes you more versatile when you lose nothing for doing so. 

 

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