brodeurrocks Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 All December dates with Lamb of God and The Sword:December 1 - Seattle, WA Key Arena December 2 - Vancouver, BC GM Place December 4 - Calgary, AB Pengrowth Saddledome December 7 - Edmonton, AB Rexall Place December 12 - Ontario, CA Citizens Bank Arena December 13 - Fresno, CA Save Mart Center December 15 - San Diego, CA Cox Arena December 17 - Los Angeles, CA The Forum December 20 - Oakland, CA Oracle Arena Hmmm.... disapointed to see no Winnipeg in there with the Calgary and Edmonton dates....hopefully they do a stop later in the tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallidevils Posted August 22, 2008 Author Share Posted August 22, 2008 the more i listen to the song the more i like it, but the more i realize that the horrific mixing could wind up ruining the album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestevens Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 It had some good parts and some bad. Overall not a bad song, much better than Cyanide. The only thing is that certain parts feel out of place and just something a middle school band could write. This is promising to be better than St.Anger though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voros19 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Metallica sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyFan42 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 It had some good parts and some bad. Overall not a bad song, much better than Cyanide. The only thing is that certain parts feel out of place and just something a middle school band could write. This is promising to be better than St.Anger though. I could take a dump and it would be better than St. Anger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesterDevil Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Eh. After listening to the new songs, the music sounds somewhat better than St. Anger, but IMHO James needs to start drinking again. He seems to has lost the edge and anger in his vocals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 I could take a dump and it would be better than St. Anger. You are right, as long as you mike'd the drums in the dump so it didn't sound like it was pots and pans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallidevils Posted August 22, 2008 Author Share Posted August 22, 2008 Eh. After listening to the new songs, the music sounds somewhat better than St. Anger, but IMHO James needs to start drinking again. He seems to has lost the edge and anger in his vocals. You realize that the only reason he sounds different is because he's singing in standard tuning, right? How could you possibly wish upon a former alcoholic to start drinking again because you (wrongly) believe that he'd sound better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammyk Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 So will there be an excuse for everything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsfan26 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Eh. After listening to the new songs, the music sounds somewhat better than St. Anger, but IMHO James needs to start drinking again. He seems to has lost the edge and anger in his vocals. The guy has a family now, I don't think becoming an alcoholic again is the best thing for him at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 You realize that the only reason he sounds different is because he's singing in standard tuning, right? How could you possibly wish upon a former alcoholic to start drinking again because you (wrongly) believe that he'd sound better? I heard a guy who didn't like the Chili Peppers last album say he wished Frusciante would get addicted to heroine again because he was better then. As for the Hetfield voice, people change. He isn't a 20-something kid anymore. Just like your musical taste changes throughout your life, the musical tastes of bands change. How hard can a 40 somethin year old millionaire really rock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestevens Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 You realize that the only reason he sounds different is because he's singing in standard tuning, right? How could you possibly wish upon a former alcoholic to start drinking again because you (wrongly) believe that he'd sound better? Standard tuning really shouldnt change your voice that much. I dont really think that it's drinking that would make him sing better. Basically, with his raspy tone, 20 years later you can't expect him to be able to sing nearly as well. Did the lead guitar on the song annoy anyone as much as it annoyed me? The tone was really what got to me, especially when he turned the overdrive on. Overall its not a bad song, its just good either. The drums were really loud once again, I don't think Lars gets the hint that he's too loud and not really talented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallidevils Posted August 22, 2008 Author Share Posted August 22, 2008 Standard tuning really shouldnt change your voice that much. I dont really think that it's drinking that would make him sing better. Basically, with his raspy tone, 20 years later you can't expect him to be able to sing nearly as well. Did the lead guitar on the song annoy anyone as much as it annoyed me? The tone was really what got to me, especially when he turned the overdrive on. Overall its not a bad song, its just good either. The drums were really loud once again, I don't think Lars gets the hint that he's too loud and not really talented. Yeah, good lord, the mix was awful. hopefully that wasn't the album version. And in James' case, it does make a difference. There was no way for him to use his 'metal voice' on the verses, it was too high for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallidevils Posted August 22, 2008 Author Share Posted August 22, 2008 So will there be an excuse for everything? The general consensus seems to be that Metallica fans love the song, non-Metallica fans or former Metallica fans don't really care for it either way. There's no need for excuses - we've heard two songs so far, and the fans have enjoyed them. It's not going to be a make or break album - if people have stuck around by this point, they obviously accept Metallica for what they are now, and people who have given up have no real reason to come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesterDevil Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 You realize that the only reason he sounds different is because he's singing in standard tuning, right? How could you possibly wish upon a former alcoholic to start drinking again because you (wrongly) believe that he'd sound better? I thought the sarcasm would bleed through my statement, guess not. I apologize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 Standard tuning really shouldnt change your voice that much. I dont really think that it's drinking that would make him sing better. Basically, with his raspy tone, 20 years later you can't expect him to be able to sing nearly as well. Did the lead guitar on the song annoy anyone as much as it annoyed me? The tone was really what got to me, especially when he turned the overdrive on. Overall its not a bad song, its just good either. The drums were really loud once again, I don't think Lars gets the hint that he's too loud and not really talented. I must be in the minority but I actually like his voice on the new song. It's a lot different because of his age as you said, but overall I think it fits in fine. I actually liked the guitar throughout the song, but I agree with you, the drums were way too loud. Whoever did the mixing really messed it up though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestevens Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 I like his voice now more than it was before honestly. The main thing that confuses me is that his tone changed, I know more than enough about music to know how tuning will change your voice, but the only reason his tone changed is because of his age I think. He really does have good range and his voice is pretty versatile but he hasn't really used much of the growl he used on earlier albums unless he forces it more or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdevil26 Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 God I hate Metallica. Anyone know when the new Ace Enders cd comes out? Dude is so secretive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxpower Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 Almost everything (maybe everything) Metallica wrote until the Black Album was in standard tuning. He sings differently than he used to. Even if they went flat one half-step, like alot of the Load era stuff, it just saves you one note. The other song from this album that was put out is flat a half step. But, that's live, so it might be in standard tuning on the CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I must be in the minority but I actually like his voice on the new song. It's a lot different because of his age as you said, but overall I think it fits in fine. I actually liked the guitar throughout the song, but I agree with you, the drums were way too loud. Whoever did the mixing really messed it up though. Lars probably jacked up the volume on the drum track when no one was looking. Or whined like a child till he got his way. I lost a lot of respect for him when I watched Some Kind of Monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallidevils Posted August 26, 2008 Author Share Posted August 26, 2008 'my apocolypse' on metallica.com! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallidevils Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 Quick Tour Update 8/27/2008 [ back ] A few additions . . . Just wanted to let you know that we're going to extend our stay in a few cities along the way in North America . . . no new stops, just a couple of additions: December 18 - Los Angeles, The Forum January 27 - Chicago, Allstate Arena February 1 - Newark, Prudential Center Check back later this week for ticketing info! WOOO ANOTHER NEWARK SHOW!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overtime98 Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 'my apocolypse' on metallica.com! It was also on Sirius Hardattack 27 this morning!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi, I'm VALUE! Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 (edited) Dude! So there! EDIT: Reading the WHOLE post would help... Edited August 27, 2008 by Hi, I'm VALUE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Metallica pretty much lost me after the Black album (the last one even worth talking about as far as I'm concerned). I still listen to the early stuff quite a bit (everything before the Black album, although I don't hate that one)...amazing how after over 20 years, Master of Puppets is still just as mind-blowing now as it was the first time I listened to it on vinyl. Who here has seen them live? I saw them on the Damaged Justice Tour (at CAA and Allentown fairgrounds) and with Faith No More and Guns 'n Roses (they came on second...this was when G 'N R was at their pretentious worst, insisting that they go on at midnight. Metallica whipped the crowd into a complete frenzy...within ten minutes of GNR taking the stage, everyone was sitting back down). I also sat them supporting the Black album at the Nassau Coliseum. I don't know how they are now, but back then they were an incredible live act...so much energy and fury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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