yankeesjetsfan Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I'm not worried. This will get over turned and Kovi will be wearing Devil colors when the season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogonjdevil Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 BIG TRADE RUMOR> Another rumor that just broke is the Rangers are considering trading Marian Gaborik to the LA Kings and signing Kovalchuk. Very interesting rumor indeed. We all remember Gaborik had wanted to play in LA going into last summer's UFA period prior to signing in NY. http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Єklund (2.3% accurate)/KingsRangers-Getting-Back-In-On-Kovalchuk-Gaborik-Trade-to-LA-Leafs/1/29435 Єklund (2.3% accurate) Is this even possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 (edited) hey great someone posts an Єklund (2.3% accurate) rumor on the board and people think it's legit - well done at times like this there are a lot of people who come around who aren't that familiar with salary caps and contracts and Єklund (2.3% accurate) Edited July 21, 2010 by Triumph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 BIG TRADE RUMOR> Another rumor that just broke is the Rangers are considering trading Marian Gaborik to the LA Kings and signing Kovalchuk. Very interesting rumor indeed. We all remember Gaborik had wanted to play in LA going into last summer's UFA period prior to signing in NY. http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Єklund (2.3% accurate)/KingsRangers-Getting-Back-In-On-Kovalchuk-Gaborik-Trade-to-LA-Leafs/1/29435 Єklund (2.3% accurate) You knew this was coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim777 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 You knew this was coming. Yes LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdevil26 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I actually is possible. With the contract being rejected.... technically Kovalchuk is not a Devil legally right now and can be offered contracts by other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Poster Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Is this even possible? No. It's not even well thought out plausable rumor mongering even for that toolshed's standards. In the spirit of fiction, i'd offer sheet Staal immediately afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 This just in representatives from Russian and Italian mobs uh, businesses to visit Gary Bettman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfsharkalligatorhalfman Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 (edited) and now ESPN is saying that Lou knew this deal was going to be rejected before the press conference? http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nhl/news/story?id=5397588 "Further muddying the waters surrounding the rejection, a source told ESPN.com Wednesday morning that Devils president and general manager Lou Lamoriello was aware of the league's plans to deny the deal prior to Tuesday afternoon's news conference in Newark announcing the signing." Source: Dean Lombardi edit: that source was meant to be a joke Edited July 21, 2010 by halfsharkalligatorhalfman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 (edited) I actually is possible. With the contract being rejected.... technically Kovalchuk is not a Devil legally right now and can be offered contracts by other teams. not true. my understanding of the situation is that the PA has 5 days to file a grievance. if they do not do so, kovalchuk would then become a free agent. in the interim, the devils and kovalchuk can choose to renegotiate the contract to the NHL's liking. Edited July 21, 2010 by Triumph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdevil26 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 No. It's not even well thought out plausable rumor mongering even for that toolshed's standards. In the spirit of fiction, i'd offer sheet Staal immediately afterwards. On the contrary my friend. Currently, the contract that Ilya Kovalchuk signed has been rejected by the league. Therefore, it is not a legal and current contractual document. Kovy is a member of NO team and can entertain offers if he wishes to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devs3cups Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 BIG TRADE RUMOR> Another rumor that just broke is the Rangers are considering trading Marian Gaborik to the LA Kings and signing Kovalchuk. Very interesting rumor indeed. We all remember Gaborik had wanted to play in LA going into last summer's UFA period prior to signing in NY. http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Єklund (2.3% accurate)/KingsRangers-Getting-Back-In-On-Kovalchuk-Gaborik-Trade-to-LA-Leafs/1/29435 Єklund (2.3% accurate) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdevil26 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 not true. my understanding of the situation is that the PA has 5 days to file a grievance. if they do not do so, kovalchuk would then become a free agent. in the interim, the devils and kovalchuk can choose to renegotiate the contract to the NHL's liking. I thought that was the case too. But in all of the articles I've been reading this morning, it states that since the contract was rejected by the league officially... Kovy has no contract with a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSkirt Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 we all know Lou has a Plan B. And a Plan B for Plan B (technically its Plan C, but it sounded funnier this way) The contingencies are already covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I think Kovy is a free agent until the grievance is filed, at that point he goes back to not being a free agent until a decision is made. That was the impression I got from my readings. Obviously the player knows if he'll request the NHLPA to file a grievance, so the player isn't going to be surprised by having or not having the grievance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I thought that was the case too. But in all of the articles I've been reading this morning, it states that since the contract was rejected by the league officially... Kovy has no contract with a team. It doesn't matter that he has "no contract" with the Devils. The "contract" that matters here is the CBA. And what I've read is that the CBA says that he is a UFA after the grievance process works itself out, or if a re-structured deal is reached in the interim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdevil26 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I would just like any notion that Kovalchuk will end up with another team put to rest so we can stop worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I would just like any notion that Kovalchuk will end up with another team put to rest so we can stop worrying. But Єklund (2.3% accurate) said it was a possibility. The man is really tuned in to what's going on the league. He says so himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newarkdev01 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Who freaking knows, I feel like this is the NHL's way of one upping the NBA. If you can't beat them, just make it all a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 (edited) admittedly this was all i read so far, but i think this is the relevant paragraph: "(x) if the NHLPA does not timely dispute and refer to the Arbitrator such rejection in the manner set forth in Section 11.5(g) above, then immediately upon the expiration of the time period within which the NHLPA may dispute and refer to the Arbitrator such rejection, the SPC or Offer Sheet, as the case may be, will be deemed null and void ab initio (i.e., the Player's Free Agency and/or contractual status shall revert to the status he held prior to signing his SPC or Offer Sheet, as the case may be), and the Player shall not be entitled to any of the rights or benefits provided for under the rejected SPC or Offer Sheet, as the case may be; or" translating out of legalese, this seems to indicate that the NHLPA has 5 days to decide to dispute, after which, if they do not do so, the contract is null and kovalchuk is once again a free agent. Edited July 21, 2010 by Triumph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 It doesn't matter that he has "no contract" with the Devils. The "contract" that matters here is the CBA. And what I've read is that the CBA says that he is a UFA after the grievance process works itself out, or if a re-structured deal is reached in the interim. There is no guarantee a grievance process is even started. I haven't seen it clearly stated what happens during the period of 5 days the NHLPA has to file the grievance. I would think it would be said that the player is still held to the team whose contract was denied, if that was the case since the Devils-Kovy contract never officially existed in the NHL eyes. So since it doesn't specifically state the player is beholden during the 5 day period, I would think he is free once the contract is voided. I don't think it matters though, it looks like a grievance will be filed and I don't think Kovalchuk is going to another team even if he was an UFA again this moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 remove two years off the deal, take the 6.8 cap hit and call it a day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 then immediately upon the expiration of the time period within which the NHLPA maydispute Ok, so then Kovy is definitely locked up until the 5 days are over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 remove two years off the deal, take the 6.8 cap hit and call it a day 6.8 isn't nearly as friendly a cap hit.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSkirt Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 "This is team" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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