dejaentendu2101 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 IT'S ON! Star Ledger/Chere: Devils GM Lou Lamoriello: It's in hands of Ilya Kovalchuk and union Sounds more like he is going to let him walk and not try to reconstruct the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 We have before us an ordeal of the most grievous kind. We have before us many, many long months of struggle and of suffering. You ask, what is our policy? I will say: It is to wage war, by sea, land and air, with all our might and with all the strength that God can give us; to wage war against a monstrous tyranny never surpassed in the dark, lamentable catalogue of human crime. That is our policy. You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word: It is victory, victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory, however long and hard the road may be Settle down Beavis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grcenter47 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Sounds more like he is going to let him walk and not try to reconstruct the contract. i got the impression that there is nothing he can do at the moment until the dispute gets settled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSkirt Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 he's not eligible to play until it is resolved. excellent, even less of a cap hit ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim777 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Let me explain this nice and slowly... Lou knows on Monday night the league will void the contract. He knows this, doesn't tell Grossman or Kovalchuk, but instead goes ahead and has this press conference where Kovalchuk says things like ...... To be honest, I simply cannot see this as a possible scenario. Today : Lou makes a quick statement that their position is the correct one and that there will be nothing else said. Grossman does the same, just a bit earlier. No freaking out by anyone, both sides in lock step. Unless Grossman goes off the f'ing handle in the next 12 hours, you have to assume they knew what they were getting into and everyone involved trusts the judgement of the HOF GM and is following his lead, and trusts everything will work out here. Like Kovy said, "This is team", and team has pulled together as one - the evidence is their silence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutral Zone Trap Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Settle down Beavis. I'd prefer Churchill, but thanks anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amberite Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Sounds more like he is going to let him walk and not try to reconstruct the contract. You misunderstood. That was typical Lou-speak for "I am going to stay quiet and repeat 'status quo' until Bettman has his ass handed to him." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grcenter47 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 You misunderstood. That was typical Lou-speak for "I am going to stay quiet and repeat 'status quo' until Bettman has his ass handed to him." Lou is like a cobra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSkirt Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Sounds more like he is going to let him walk and not try to reconstruct the contract. huh, the trade & all that work to just walk away ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSkirt Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 (edited) You misunderstood. That was typical Lou-speak for "I am going to stay quiet and repeat 'status quo' until Bettman has his ass handed to him." The union must represent its member and file a grievance. If the NHLPA does not advocate for the player in this case, then the association will collapse onto itself. I think the NHL is doing this all for posturing. They will lose in the end. Edited July 22, 2010 by BlueSkirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 To be honest, I simply cannot see this as a possible scenario. Today : Lou makes a quick statement that their position is the correct one and that there will be nothing else said. Grossman does the same, just a bit earlier. No freaking out by anyone, both sides in lock step. Unless Grossman goes off the f'ing handle in the next 12 hours, you have to assume they knew what they were getting into and everyone involved trusts the judgement of the HOF GM and is following his lead, and trusts everything will work out here. Like Kovy said, "This is team", and team has pulled together as one - the evidence is their silence. Ordinarily I'd agree with you, but the whole process has been so bizarre, that I'm not discounting anything. As I've said before the ramifications are so dire that it is something that's at the back of mind, at least for purposes of a message board discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepperkorn Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 huh, the trade & all that work to just walk away ? Yeah! Didn't you read that article that said Lou and Bettman orchestrated this whole thing to teach greedy SOBs like Kovalchuk a lesson? That whole line gets me so distraught. I know it's dumb but it really bugs me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion15 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 "it's all velvet ropes and posturing..." -Michael Imperioli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 (edited) I'd prefer Churchill, but thanks anyway... I was looking for a video of the line, but couldn't find it. Wasn't meant as an insult, but more that you were being just a wee over the top. EDIT: Maybe an audio clip would suffice. My link Edited July 22, 2010 by Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Poster Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 IT'S ON! Star Ledger/Chere: Devils GM Lou Lamoriello: It's in hands of Ilya Kovalchuk and union The Devils are absolutely correct in not re-working this deal right now. Why blink now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxpower Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 The union must represent its member and file a grievance. If the NHLPA does not advocate for the player in this case, then the association will collapse onto itself. I think the NHL is doing this all for posturing. They will lose in the end. they could decide not to go to war, and say "look, you idiots, this is basically over 2 years and 500K cap space, figure it out yourselves." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 The Devils are absolutely correct in not re-working this deal right now. Why blink now? because they'd save everyone involved a lot of trouble if they acquiesced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 because they'd save everyone involved a lot of trouble if they acquiesced. Mainly us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewarkDevil5 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 because they'd save everyone involved a lot of trouble if they acquiesced. As they could have done with allowing Jim Schoenfeld to get suspended without taking the league to court. When has saving people trouble ever been the Lamoriello way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grcenter47 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 The Devils are absolutely correct in not re-working this deal right now. Why blink now? I agree. They did nothing wrong. Its about pride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I know Lou really has no power in all of this.. ...but I'm just picturing him knowing exactly what he's doing from this point forward. I'm honestly not worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaneykoIsGod Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Ugh what a mess. Looks like this is heading to arbitration. I really hope Lou can still proceed with the moves necessary to clear up the cap space, etc. If he waits until the final decision, it could be too late. Doesn't matter. Even if Lou found a taker for Rolston, the league would just reject a salary dump on the grounds that it circumvents the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 As they could have done with allowing Jim Schoenfeld to get suspended without taking the league to court. When has saving people trouble ever been the Lamoriello way? this could take months. kovalchuk could miss the beginning of the season. or, worse still, the nhlpa could leave them out in the cold and kovalchuk could go elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutral Zone Trap Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I was looking for a video of the line, but couldn't find it. Wasn't meant as an insult, but more that you were being just a wee over the top. EDIT: Maybe an audio clip would suffice. My link Blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Blank Oh well, thought it would be humorous. I fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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