Matteau#32 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) Not going to be an issue. Talk will be about the Rangers being the first team to advance to the Finals after playing 7-gamers in each of the first 2 rounds. They were only a "bad defensive team" because we beat them. No one will mention the fact that we completely shut down their lethal offense and power play. If we do beat the Rangers, the pundits will blame the two game sevens... It's a lose-lose, but who cares, when you're a Devils fan. I sure don't. 3 Cups in my lifetime are way better than getting a nice writeup on ESPN or NHL.com... No, they were a terrible defensive team. They were terrible defensively in their win over the Pens. Edited May 14, 2012 by Matteau#32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck the Duck Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Not going to be an issue. Talk will be about the Rangers being the first team to advance to the Finals after playing 7-gamers in each of the first 2 rounds. No, they were a terrible defensive team. They were terrible defensively in their win over the Pens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaneykoIsGod Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 No, they were a terrible defensive team. They were terrible defensively in their win over the Pens. Yeah, everyone knew the Flyers were just Godawful defensively. That's why absolutely everyone thought they were gonna roll over NJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) Yeah, everyone knew the Flyers were just Godawful defensively. That's why absolutely everyone thought they were gonna roll over NJ. Most Ranger fans I know are like Matteau#32, in that they're insanely biased, and are going to be minimally objective at best. I have friends who are Ranger fans that I can't even watch games with for that very reason...every time a Ranger is touched, it should be a penalty, etc. Clearly M#32 thinks the Devils aren't much of a match for the Rangers, and with the way Lundqvist has played against them, I get that to an extent, but he seems to be writing off the Devils rather easily. The only two things I'm going to ask of Matteau#32, should his team lose this series: 1) Don't disappear. 2) Don't use fatigue as an excuse, since you said yourself that fatigue will not be a factor, and have completely dismissed the history of how poorly prior teams that have won their first and second round in seven games have fared in the Conference Final round. Edited May 14, 2012 by Colorado Rockies 1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I do think that nobody advancing after going 14 games in the first 2 rounds means less now than it did in the past. In the past the talent level between the good and the bad teams was much larger than today, so if it took you 14 games the dispatch 2 teams it probably meant you weren't very good and your round 3 opponent was going to be much better than you. Now that the talent levels are so even, you can be just as good as your round 3 opponent and take 14 games to win rounds 1 and 2. So I think, with the salary cap, this stat means much less than it once did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Nobody here should be talking up the, "two seven games series, third round elimination stat." We have way more positives to this team than needing to stoop there to explain why we can win this series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) Nobody here should be talking up the, "two seven games series, third round elimination stat." We have way more positives to this team than needing to stoop there to explain why we can win this series. Also... thoughts? Edited May 14, 2012 by ben00rs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleasepassthesoup Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 thoughts? I agree with everything but the coaching. DeBoer has done a great job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matteau#32 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Most Ranger fans I know are like Matteau#32, in that they're insanely biased, and are going to be minimally objective at best. I have friends who are Ranger fans that I can't even watch games with for that very reason...every time a Ranger is touched, it should be a penalty, etc. Clearly M#32 thinks the Devils aren't much of a match for the Rangers, and with the way Lundqvist has played against them, I get that to an extent, but he seems to be writing off the Devils rather easily. The only two things I'm going to ask of Matteau#32, should his team lose this series: 1) Don't disappear. 2) Don't use fatigue as an excuse, since you said yourself that fatigue will not be a factor, and have completely dismissed the history of how poorly prior teams that have won their first and second round in seven games have fared in the Conference Final round. Didn't say the Devils aren't a match, just said the Rangers will win. Secondly, I am not the type to moan about calls non-calls. Over the course of a game/series/season they generally even out. Only way you will see me use fatigue as an excuse is if it is obvious the Rangers have nothing yet. Don't think that will be the case. Rangers are one of the younger teams in the league, their D is young and their conditioning has been top notch from what I have seen this year. But, like I said, won't need to make excuses after the Rangers victory. I agree with everything but the coaching. DeBoer has done a great job. I think they have both done excellent jobs. They have both devised game plans that work for the talent of the players, which is the most important thing to do in sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeCups Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 This guy will disappear when the Rags are sent golfing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gata Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Yeah, everyone knew the Flyers were just Godawful defensively. That's why absolutely everyone thought they were gonna roll over NJ. LMAOOOO That was great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I agree with everything but the coaching. DeBoer has done a great job. Agreed. The defense is a close call though. Where the Rangers block many more shots we forecheck a lot better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleasepassthesoup Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Agreed. The defense is a close call though. Where the Rangers block many more shots we forecheck a lot better. They broke it down as forwards and defense, though, rather than offense and defense. I think they have better defensemen and we have better forwards. The forecheck from the forwards is a big part of our defense, but their defensemen as a unit our better than ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 They broke it down as forwards and defense, though, rather than offense and defense. I think they have better defensemen and we have better forwards. The forecheck from the forwards is a big part of our defense, but their defensemen as a unit our better than ours. I mean, I'm not sure. I think they are underestimating how good guys like Bryce Salvador and Andy Greene have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#9Delieve Posted May 14, 2012 Author Share Posted May 14, 2012 Nbc thinks the rangers have better forwards on the pregame show bhahaha fail! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Is it just the tv or is it much darker on the ice off to the left of the Rangers goalie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher72 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I can only hope the Rangers players are starting to buy into their own hype as much as their fans are and as much as the local pundits are. All day i've been hearing how they'll either sweep us or win in 5 games, that the Senators and Caps are beters teams than the Devils, that Lundqvist can never be beaten by the Devils in the playoffs etc etc. Most Rangers fans are like a combination of bandwagon Jets and Yankees fans rolled into one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlebum Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 We are winning tomorrow night and the series. Devils have too much fight in them for these ++++s to take us out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 I was talking with my neighbor down the street. He's from Northern Wisconsin and he said he used to play high school hockey against guys from Shadyac St. Marie's like Zach Parise. He's a Kings fan and he's pulling for the Devils. Oh, and he says Lundqvist is overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlebum Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 pretzels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 pretzels I finished them yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilMinder Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Are you thirsty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Thirsty for a W! C'mon! I gotta chaperone the 8th grade dance on Thursday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matteau#32 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 I can only hope the Rangers players are starting to buy into their own hype as much as their fans are and as much as the local pundits are. All day i've been hearing how they'll either sweep us or win in 5 games, that the Senators and Caps are beters teams than the Devils, that Lundqvist can never be beaten by the Devils in the playoffs etc etc. Most Rangers fans are like a combination of bandwagon Jets and Yankees fans rolled into one. I wouldn't count on that, but a lot of rangers fans are getting ahead of themselves. My thinking is if the Rangers win tonight, they win in 5. Devils win tonight, rangers in 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion15 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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