NJDevils1214 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: 110G, 74A in his first 3 years. For Nico to equal that, he needs 73G and 12 A this season. If you don’t want that guy on your team, I don’t understand what you want. Last year Laine had to have Byfuglien remind him that he was in the NHL and to skate. I don't think there will ever be a point in Nico's career where he will have to get cussed out on the ice in the middle of play for being so lazy. Laine is a 1 dimensional player. He is Ovechkin without the drive. I'd much rather have the Halls and Nicos that bring it every night than a guy like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 minute ago, SterioDesign said: But obviously someone will bring up that Nico does so much more that doesnt how on the scoresheet etc etc... which is true... but 73G and 12 A does show on the gamesheet and makes you win games lol I’m not saying to TRADE Nico for him. I’m saying if you have Nico PLUS the guy who crushed his first 3 years of stats, that’s a good thing. 1 minute ago, NJDevils1214 said: I'd much rather have the Halls and Nicos that bring it every night than a guy like that. Same argument, we have the cap room for all three of them, no need to choose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) also nico had 5 pts in his last 14 games. At that pace its 30 pts per season. Every player goes through some sort of streak through the season unless they hit 70-80 pts... which is not many players in the league Edited June 27, 2019 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: also nico had 5 pts in his last 14 games. At that pace its 30 pts per season. Every player goes through some sort of streak through the season unless they hit 70-80 pts... which is not many players in the league That’s even more evidence I’m right, because people are criticizing Laine for being streaky when in reality, that happens to most players. Again, I’m not saying Nico is better or worse, I used him as a comparison because 1) He has 2 years played and Laine has 3, and Laine is one year older, meaning they both started their career at the same age, and 2) everyone loves Nico and considers him untouchable. If Nico is untouchable, I don’t see how anyone could just take a pass on Laine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmann422 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: well exactly lol and he's still young and learning. But obviously someone will bring up that Nico does so much more that doesnt how on the scoresheet etc etc... which is true... but 73G and 12 A does show on the gamesheet and makes you win games lol maybe i can help put it into better terms - imagine you have a relationship with a girl and it's on and off again (Laine), versus a steady thing that you work towards for awhile (Nico). Sure the on and off again thing is fun and new and exciting, but in the long run the investment you put into the steady thing should turn out to be the best, and the on and off again thing will wind up breaking your heart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Nico hit a reasonable point target and did a lot more away from that so you can at least make the arguement that just because he wasn't on the scoresheet he was an active participant in the game. All Laine does is score goals and he couldn't do that for a long stretch, like 12-15 games, and he way missed his expected points target for the year. He's a passenger. He has found success at every level with minimal effort and expects to be able to phone it in at the NHL level. It doesn't work that way. Fortnight is his top concern over NHL games some nights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 I guess this is part of the Rangers pitch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, dmann422 said: maybe i can help put it into better terms - imagine you have a relationship with a girl and it's on and off again (Laine), versus a steady thing that you work towards for awhile (Nico). Sure the on and off again thing is fun and new and exciting, but in the long run the investment you put into the steady thing should turn out to be the best, and the on and off again thing will wind up breaking your heart. Maybe I can... In my scenario, you get to fvck them both at the same time. Edited June 27, 2019 by mfitz804 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, MB3 said: There are actually people on this forum who wouldn’t want Patrick fvcking Laine on this team? holy sh!t lol There are better options for the amount of money he will want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Neb00rs said: I guess this is part of the Rangers pitch... Damn those lights are bright 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said: There are better options for the amount of money he will want. That's a different question altogether. I'm not saying give him whatever he wants, he shouldn't be making Marner money. Neither should Nico. Edited June 27, 2019 by mfitz804 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Neb00rs said: I guess this is part of the Rangers pitch... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 minute ago, mfitz804 said: That's a different question altogether. I'm not saying give him whatever he wants, he shouldn't b making Marner money. Okay, well that's a relevant part of my argument against bringing him in--besides the streakyness and, widely perceived, lack of effort he puts forth regularly. My argument was never Nico or Hall or Laine vs having them all at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Just now, NJDevils1214 said: Okay, well that's a relevant part of my argument against bringing him in--besides the streakyness and, widely perceived, lack of effort he puts forth regularly. My argument was never Nico or Hall or Laine vs having them all at once. Nor was it mine. Mine was that while everyone thinks Nico is "untouchable", Laine has better production despite being "streaky". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Crisis said: Damn those lights are bright The lights are bright, but they probably stuck him in a middle seat in economy for the flight in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: The lights are bright, but they probably stuck him in a middle seat in economy for the flight in. Panarin shoots right btw, so they could have done some basic research beforehand. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Neb00rs said: Panarin shoots right btw, so they could have done some basic research beforehand. Now he's definitely signing in Florida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 4 hours ago, NJDevils1214 said: I wouldn't want to pay him. His agent has come out and said they're looking for 10m a year. Like, I like Laine and respect that he's tremendously talented and has boatloads of potential but.. no thank you. Not even close for me - I don't want anything to do with him for more than 8M per. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Neb00rs said: I guess this is part of the Rangers pitch... Anywhere but the Rangers, man. Just go to Florida you idiot. Edit: Or here, but it's completely quiet on that front so I'm assuming we're not involved here. Edited June 27, 2019 by Devilsfan118 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said: His agent has come out and said they're looking for 10m a year. Like, I like Laine and respect that he's tremendously talented and has boatloads of potential but.. no thank you. Not even close for me - I don't want anything to do with him for more than 8M per. Yeah I don't believe he's proven himself to be a $10m player quite yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Dreger speculation on TSN just now : The Devils can't afford to add a 12M player if they plan on signing Hall and Hughes and Hischier et al... to big contracts within the next few years...so it'd be hard to believe the Devils are in for that price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Panarin is out of his mind if he thinks he’s getting 12+ million a year. That’s Connor McDavid money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Nicomo said: Panarin is out of his mind if he thinks he’s getting 12+ million a year. That’s Connor McDavid money. I don’t know that he won’t get it, but that’s way too much. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) It's important to continually note that whatever numbers are reported as the amount that Panarin is looking for DOES NOT apply to teams in Florida. As we now he would sign with the Panthers for less given the tax status of the state. If 12M is true, it might be that he's about ready to sign with the Panthers and he just wants to see how high he can push other teams. But, all speculation of course... Keep in mind, many analysts have predicted around 11M - 11.5M for Panarin (outside of Florida). Edited June 28, 2019 by Neb00rs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Panarin is good. But is he good enough to put the Devils over the top at 12 mill a year? If you could tell me that Hughes, Smith and Boqvist will develop overnight, Hall remains healthy and MVP caliber, Hischier's arrow continues to point up, plus other factors........... I'd be all for signing Panarin. But how much of what I mentioned will work out for the Devils? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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