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A Demographics Poll!: Devils or Rangers


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  1. 1. Breakdown of fandom

    • Mix- 60-40% in either direction
      14
    • Mostly NJ - >60%
      21
    • Mostly NYR- >60%
      8


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Live in Hunterdon County (pretty close to StarDew IIRC) in Annandale/Clinton. I don't really see much interest in hockey around here. There's a couple of Devil fans in my neighborhood, but I'd categorize them as casual at best. The sports fans that I meet in this area are much more into baseball and football (both college and NFL). The ones who've come to my house love all of the Devils stuff I have on display (it's a lot), but they usually then say "I should really check out hockey sometime."

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I have to give Morris County credit, it's grown to be a pretty solid Devils stronghold? Isn't it where most of the Devils ST holder base comes from?

 

I'm in Passaic and it's mostly Devils. Probably like 70-30.

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Everyone should check out the common census NHL map. It hasn't been updated in a long time, and the sample sizes aren't huge, but it gives you a pretty good idea. If you check out the fifty mile radius breakdowns in what's considered Devils territory (as in north/south with the flyers), I can't see any geographic location that's predominantly Rangers fans. I'm on my phone though. There are probably somewhere around 500 responses in each area if you use the 50 mile measure. It doesn't really prove anything, but it's better than I saw a bunch of Rangers fans at shop rite. Be careful, if you clip NYC a little bit, it'll obviously change the numbers.

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Being my age, most of my peers are Rag fans.   When I debate hockey and fandom (Lord Knows I bring the Ranger hate everywhere I go), the one thing I ALWAYS hear is:

 

"I was a Ranger fan before there was a Devils", and "Who did you like"?

 

I just tell them the truth, I've always hated on the Rags, and that I was an Islander fan until the Devs came.  Then I went with the NJ team. I didn't dump the Isles cold turkey, I followed them as they won their last 2 Cups, but I moved over and have zero allegiance to the Isles.

 

I tell them I root for the home team, which the Devs are.


MadDog, do we bring the hate or what?   lol

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Being my age, most of my peers are Rag fans. When I debate hockey and fandom (Lord Knows I bring the Ranger hate everywhere I go), the one thing I ALWAYS hear is:

"I was a Ranger fan before there was a Devils", and "Who did you like"?

I just tell them the truth, I've always hated on the Rags, and that I was an Islander fan until the Devs came. Then I went with the NJ team. I didn't dump the Isles cold turkey, I followed them as they won their last 2 Cups, but I moved over and have zero allegiance to the Isles.

I tell them I root for the home team, which the Devs are.

MadDog, do we bring the hate or what? lol

We bring the hate Jimmy. Like none other lol.
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syosset Long Island, 50-50 isles and rangers fans, 1 devils fan

 

I'm actually surprised at how many Devils fans there are on Long Island. Just a guess, but I'm sure many are just people who switched sides while the Isles were burning to the ground for 30 years, but they picked the Devils because they still hated the Rangers.

 

I know a few in Suffolk County. There's even a guy at the Ronkonkoma train station who works at the taxi dispatch who wears a Devils jersey several times a week, whether it's offseason or not, gameday or not lol.. My girlfriend lives over there and she said he's always wearing it and has for as long as she could remember taking the train. She's also taken a cab driven by Mike Komisarek's dad before and said he roots for the Devils occasionally despite being an Isles fan.

 

 

 

I can kind of understand it though. If the Devils are awful for the next 30 years, the Isles are an easy team to get around (Tavares, Okposo, Strome, even the local boy Coach Capuano, etc.), I'd probably sort of root for them on the side (over the Rangers of course), but if I had a kid during that time, who's to say he doesn't become an all-out Islanders fan? So yeah, I can see why there are Devils fans on the Isle.

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Monmouth County and yeah it's definitely a mix around here unfortunately. You wouldn't know from the stores though. Walk into a Modell's or Dick's and it's just so much more Rangers stuff than Devils. It's disgusting. I also find that more people are willing/quick to jump on the Rangers bandwagons around here than the Devils. So diehards, I'd say it's 50/50. But when factoring in casuals/bandwagoners, it's definitely more Rangers.

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Monmouth County and yeah it's definitely a mix around here unfortunately. You wouldn't know from the stores though. Walk into a Modell's or Dick's and it's just so much more Rangers stuff than Devils. It's disgusting. I also find that more people are willing/quick to jump on the Rangers bandwagons around here than the Devils. So diehards, I'd say it's 50/50. But when factoring in casuals/bandwagoners, it's definitely more Rangers.

The fact that the stores are carrying more Rag merch and the casual fan/bandwagon jumpers are because the Rags are in the playoffs and the Devils aren't. Trust me, when the Devils were good, you couldn't walk into a Modell's or a Dick's around here without seeing tons more Devils stuff than Rags.
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Yep. I'm from Orange County. There's a surprising amount of Devils fans.

Oh and a ton of ranger fans all of a sudden too.

 

 

That's where I became one. I was only in NY for 4 years, but got hooked on the Devils.

Lots of Devs fans here in NC as well!

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Yep. I'm from Orange County. There's a surprising amount of Devils fans.

 

I'm curious why? Has Meadowlands/Newark been viewed as that much more accessible than Manhattan/MSG?

 

I have some family up there and they don't "go into the city" more than once or twice a year. But will drive into New Jersey every once in a while for shopping/concerts, etc. I'm curious if that's the reasoning as to why there are Devils fans there.

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Was at Point Pleasant this weekend - almost every bar I went into had Rangers flags/banners/jerseys hanging.

I think our state just lacks a sports identity. People would rather associate with NY or Philly than NJ.

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Was at Point Pleasant this weekend - almost every bar I went into had Rangers flags/banners/jerseys hanging.

I think our state just lacks a sports identity. People would rather associate with NY or Philly than NJ.

 

Most of the people visiting Point Pleasant on the weekends in the summer are from NY or PA.

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I'm curious why? Has Meadowlands/Newark been viewed as that much more accessible than Manhattan/MSG?

I have some family up there and they don't "go into the city" more than once or twice a year. But will drive into New Jersey every once in a while for shopping/concerts, etc. I'm curious if that's the reasoning as to why there are Devils fans there.

For me, it was because my dad worked in northern Jersey and would go to games with clients and stuff at times. I still have an old Devils pennant from 1987 I think. He was never a fan but I became one. Then the crap I took in 1994 forever solidified me as a Devils fan.

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Growing up along Route-35 in Monmouth County was totally Rangers territory thanks to the ease of taking the North Jersey Coast Line into Penn Station.  I was litterally the only kid wearing a red & green Devils jersey in my town when we played street hockey.  You started seeing Devils fans appearing after the 1988 playoff run and steadily built-up from there.  I moved out of New Jersey in 1992 where I followed the team from afar and saw the area transition to a majority of Devils fans during the Devils glory years which went hand-in-hand with the Rangers tanking for a decade.

 

Summers on the Point Pleasant and Seaside boardwalks I saw lots of Flyers t-shirts after they made their cup run in 2010, Devils t-shirts in 2012, and now Rangers t-shirts.  Fans get bold when their teams do well and draw bandwagoners.  Simple as that.  Your team sucks (especially non-NFL) and you're not wearing their gear as much.

 

The draw of the Rangers is always the bright lights of Broadway.  Yes that makes me barf but the draw of "The Garden" will always draw people who want to jump on the bandwagon of something hip with professional sports.  And lets face it the NY Metro Area has been godawful in terms of professional sports the last 3 years with the only exception being the Rangers.  I remember the days when nobody would get caught dead wearing a Yankees hat let alone a Yankees t-shirt, George was threatening to move to New Jersey, and New York was a Mets town hook, line, and sinker.  Now after 2 decades of futility in Queens along with the 90's Yankees teams that trend reversed itself.  Now the Mets have an opportunity to reverse that again on the aging Yankees.

 

Giants and Jets fans tend to not cross-over but even that happened when Parcells went to the Jets.  Yes it was easier for Giants fans to root for the Jets seeing them as "Little Brother" and I doubt Jets fans really rooted for the Giants outside of the Super Bowls against the Patriots.

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  • 2 weeks later...

http://www.nj.com/sports/njsports/index.ssf/2015/06/whats_your_favorite_area_hockey_team_help_us_draw_njs_nhl_borders.html#incart_river

Interesting, NJ.com is running a piece with a map to figure out demographics the way we just did here haha... Check it out and add your input.

Devils doing well in North/Central. South is predictably Phailures dominated.
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The only people who like New Jersey are people who live in New Jersey. How many times have you heard the 'jersey smells' or 'jersey shore' tropes? That's what people ID with NJ, even though its totally innaccurate. As a result, you're going to get a ton of people that want to disassociate with the state. Then to add to that, you have two major metropolitan areas with a ton of influence surrounding us with NY and PA. Furthermore, they have been around as teams much longer than we have.

 

That just makes what we have, a team in NJ that calls itself NJ and proud to be NJ that much more special. Its ours, and we don't have to share it with that many people. To make it even sweeter, we're the ones who enjoyed about 20 years of success while the other franchises had 'that one good playoff run.'

 

 

http://www.nj.com/sports/njsports/index.ssf/2015/06/whats_your_favorite_area_hockey_team_help_us_draw_njs_nhl_borders.html#incart_river

 

Interesting, NJ.com is running a piece with a map to figure out demographics the way we just did here haha... Check it out and add your input.

 

Also...looks like I'm the only Devils vote in Newark lol.

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This poll is interesting but i have a feeling that someone is messing around with it. Newark was clearly red 30 minutes ago and had around 50 votes, now its in the middle and has over 500 votes ( with a much higher % of rangers fans) . Seems like some ranger fan is sitting at home and just voting over and over. 

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