mfitz804 11,095 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Just now, mikepeluso8 said: ok. that's all I need to know. Carry on. You’ve clearly had plenty of concussions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Triumph 1,409 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Devils can't recall Ty Smith. I can't find the conditions under which they could potentially recall him but I believe they are basically if everyone else in the organization is injured or there is some reason why their minor league team players are inaccessible (say, a major snowstorm in Binghamton or something) - the Flames managed to bring up Sven Baertschi this way a few years ago, but yeah, he's not coming. I think they will move Vatanen or Severson over to the left side and play Santini. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicomo 5,930 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: https://deadspin.com/jamie-benn-and-miles-wood-got-real-feisty-with-each-oth-1829801070 “One of these dudes is mega frustrated, and another just might be a bit insane” Wood is awesome. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfitz804 11,095 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Just now, Triumph said: Devils can't recall Ty Smith. I can't find the conditions under which they could potentially recall him but I believe they are basically if everyone else in the organization is injured or there is some reason why their minor league team players are inaccessible (say, a major snowstorm in Binghamton or something) - the Flames managed to bring up Sven Baertschi this way a few years ago, but yeah, he's not coming. I think they will move Vatanen or Severson over to the left side and play Santini. Still hoping he’s ok but he skated off with that look on his face like something was very, very wrong. Just now, Nicomo said: “One of these dudes is mega frustrated, and another just might be a bit insane” Wood is awesome. Yeah he kind of is. Glad he’ll be around a few years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikepeluso8 204 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 23 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: You’ve clearly had plenty of concussions. Just one I can remember...against Morris Knolls....woke up, staring at the ceiling in Mennen Arena, looking at stars, didn't know where I was for a minute...then I got escorted to the penalty box. I played with reckless abandon. Just call me the "enforcer". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Colorado Rockies 1976 6,503 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 10 hours ago, Triumph said: While it's true that there've been extenuating circumstances in all the Devils' wins, they're still getting the W's pretty handily. There's no reason the Stars couldn't've played better than this - they lost last night in Ottawa, true, but they didn't play all that well, Kinkaid did, and they also couldn't really get any breaks (except for Hall throwing the puck out). So yeah, team looks great 5 on 5 and that penalty kill is also quite good. I'd like to see Hischier off PP1 but I know that's probably not happening any time soon. Polak is garbage and Butcher's probably going to miss the next game at the very least. Kenny said it at the end of the game, there will be tests ahead, but it's good to see they are banking these points early. They will need them. Re: the bolded...the Rangers were dealt an extremely favorable schedule early last season, and didn't take advantage...that hurt them. If the Devils come away with 4 or 5 points in their next four games, they'll have banked 12 or 13 out of 16 points...I would've definitely signed up for that. Devils embark on a seven-game trip starting 11/30: Tampa, Detroit, Islanders, Penguins, Senators, Maple Leafs, and Jets. 7 games in 13 games. So yeah, after a very ease-in early schedule that will have seen the Devils enjoy some extended rest periods and tons of home cookin', things are going to change in a hurry. I would take a 4-3-0 trip or thereabouts pretty happily...20 points or so after 15 games (109 point pace) with the longest road trip of the season out of the way sounds pretty good to me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HellOnICE 384 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Bank the points while you can. Schedules, injuries, etc will happen. Get the points you can get and move onto the next 2. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NJDfan1711 1,717 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 11 hours ago, mfitz804 said: What the fvck are you even talking about? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Colorado Rockies 1976 6,503 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) 39 minutes ago, HellOnICE said: Bank the points while you can. Schedules, injuries, etc will happen. Get the points you can get and move onto the next 2. And the Devils have definitely done that in the early going. But you know how some fans get...they treat all 82 games on the schedule as if they are all equally winnable entities, and start picking apart everything when the team dares to lose some games. No team gets up for all 82 games equally...and there's always that handful of games where a team pretty much says "fvck it, we're collectively spent and we're not going to kill ourselves trying to win this one"...not that they're outright throwing any given game of course, but these guys all know their bodies well enough to know that there's going to be those 4-5 nights or so where they try to balance recharging with getting through a game. And of course there's games where it's just not clicking that given night. Some fans also constantly forget that "bad" teams beat "good" teams a lot more often than they seem to realize...even bottom-feeders usually win 20-25 games. As far as scheduling goes, I'll be thrilled if the Devils somehow keep it up on the upcoming road trip (and finish up this home-heavy part of the schedule on a continued flourish), but I'm definitely not expecting any better than 4-3-0 on the trip...especially if Butcher is out for a significant amount of time. Edited October 17, 2018 by Colorado Rockies 1976 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfitz804 11,095 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Bottom line, its fine to get excited about a good start, but its 4 games. As they mentioned last night, the last time we went 4-0 to start a season was 95-96, and then we promptly missed the playoffs as Stanley Cup Champions from the prior year. I was at that Ottawa game, and I still remember being absolutely shocked they lost and I still hate Ottawa to this day because of it. But, to me, the encouraging thing is HOW we won those games, most notably: 1) The defense has been pretty good, with the possible exception of the Sharks game where they got a TON of shots on goal. Andy Greene hasn't looked awful, Severson either, and aside from a few miscues last night, Mueller has looked pretty good too. 2) The offense is getting it done without any goals from Hall or Hischier. Secondary scoring is something we lacked even last year, its part of the reason Taylor Hall is the MVP, he was doing it alone. 3) KK has looked incredibly solid and is clearly ready to replace Schneider if he can't come back at a high level from injury, or at dead least, to share the workload. 4) We completely dominated the reigning champs, came from behind to beat a 100 point team from last year, and also beat two teams we were "supposed to". 5) Marcus Johansson hasn't had a concussion yet. Of course we haven't played the Bruins. We have a lot of reason to feel encouraged at the moment. But it's nowhere near time to talk about whether we're the "best in the East" or whatever. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MB3 5,286 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 12 hours ago, mikepeluso8 said: mmmmmm what if we don't have facebook? What do we do next? Did any of you children even play hockey? or were you too busy live streaming your Halo sessions? My favorite part about Peluso posts are that they so quickly and unexpectedly fall off a cliff. It's like "yup, that makes sense, uh huh, wait, wait what? what the fvck is he even trying to say?" It's like if M. Night Shyamalan had tourrette's. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ Eco 494 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Devils embark on a seven-game trip starting 11/30: Tampa, Detroit, Islanders, Penguins, Senators, Maple Leafs, and Jets. 7 games in 13 games. So yeah, after a very ease-in early schedule that will have seen the Devils enjoy some extended rest periods and tons of home cookin', things are going to change in a hurry. True that. What will be interesting is that usually that first road trip of the season is where the coaches are trying to do some team-building and build some culture. We've seemingly already gotten that out of the way and are icing what looks like a very together group 4 games in. It'll be interesting to see them walk into away buildings with a unified front, hopefully surprising some of these teams. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Colorado Rockies 1976 6,503 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Bottom line, its fine to get excited about a good start, but its 4 games. As they mentioned last night, the last time we went 4-0 to start a season was 95-96, and then we promptly missed the playoffs as Stanley Cup Champions from the prior year. I was at that Ottawa game, and I still remember being absolutely shocked they lost and I still hate Ottawa to this day because of it. But, to me, the encouraging thing is HOW we won those games, most notably: 1) The defense has been pretty good, with the possible exception of the Sharks game where they got a TON of shots on goal. Andy Greene hasn't looked awful, Severson either, and aside from a few miscues last night, Mueller has looked pretty good too. 2) The offense is getting it done without any goals from Hall or Hischier. Secondary scoring is something we lacked even last year, its part of the reason Taylor Hall is the MVP, he was doing it alone. 3) KK has looked incredibly solid and is clearly ready to replace Schneider if he can't come back at a high level from injury, or at dead least, to share the workload. 4) We completely dominated the reigning champs, came from behind to beat a 100 point team from last year, and also beat two teams we were "supposed to". 5) Marcus Johansson hasn't had a concussion yet. Of course we haven't played the Bruins. We have a lot of reason to feel encouraged at the moment. But it's nowhere near time to talk about whether we're the "best in the East" or whatever. Not sure if I would've had the Oilers as a "should beat" team...they'd kinda had the Devils' number. Was VERY happy to see the Devils beat them. Palms was scoring quite a bit too last season, especially once he was fully healthy and able to get into a groove (16 goals in his final 33 games of the 2017-18 regular season), but yeah, it definitely thinned out after Hall and Palms (Hischier did score 11 over his final 26 GP). Hard not to be thrilled with the Devils going 4-0-0 with no goals from Nico and Hall for sure. Still got Bratt lying in the weeds too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crisis 686 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 42 minutes ago, Kinkyisth3b3st said: My favorite part about Peluso posts are that they so quickly and unexpectedly fall off a cliff. It's like "yup, that makes sense, uh huh, wait, wait what? what the fvck is he even trying to say?" It's like if M. Night Shyamalan had tourrette's. Is he playing the character of Mike Peluso? I honestly can't tell. His posts sound like he's been punched in the face a few too many times. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfitz804 11,095 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Not sure if I would've had the Oilers as a "should beat" team...they'd kinda had the Devils' number. Was VERY happy to see the Devils beat them. I understand your logic. But, they were a 78 point, non-playoff team last season. OK, we just made it in, but that was with 97 points. In my opinion, that's a team we "should beat". 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MadDog2020 8,546 Posted October 17, 2018 Author Share Posted October 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: I understand your logic. But, they were a 78 point, non-playoff team last season. OK, we just made it in, but that was with 97 points. In my opinion, that's a team we "should beat". Edmonton is a dysfunctional tire fire. We should always beat them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Colorado Rockies 1976 6,503 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: I understand your logic. But, they were a 78 point, non-playoff team last season. OK, we just made it in, but that was with 97 points. In my opinion, that's a team we "should beat". Just now, MadDog2020 said: Edmonton is a dysfunctional tire fire. We should always beat them. Yeah, but they're a team that's given the Devils fits at times...Devils were 0-1-3 against them over the past two seasons, which isn't awful-awful, but for whatever the reason the Oilers just had a way of making the Devils look bad. I was very relieved that the Devils not only beat them, but did so rather handily. Always nice to beat those damned "thorn in the side" teams. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfitz804 11,095 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Devils were 0-1-3 against them over the past two seasons Yeah, but we SHOULD have beaten them!!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MB3 5,286 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 18 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Yeah, but they're a team that's given the Devils fits at times...Devils were 0-1-3 against them over the past two seasons, which isn't awful-awful, but for whatever the reason the Oilers just had a way of making the Devils look bad. I was very relieved that the Devils not only beat them, but did so rather handily. Always nice to beat those damned "thorn in the side" teams. Wait there’s no way that’s true. 2 seasons ago we beat them on Brodeur night didn’t we? And I thought we won by some bizarre score last year after being down 3-0? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Colorado Rockies 1976 6,503 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Just now, Kinkyisth3b3st said: Wait there’s no way that’s true. 2 seasons ago we beat them on Brodeur night didn’t we? And I thought we won by some bizarre score last year after being down 3-0? 2016-17: Oilers win 2-1 (OT) and 3-2 (OT) 2017-18: Oilers win 6-3 and 3-2 (OT) Devils last beat the Oilers on 11/20/2015 prior to this year (won 5-1) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DevsMan84 2,366 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Kinkyisth3b3st said: Wait there’s no way that’s true. 2 seasons ago we beat them on Brodeur night didn’t we? And I thought we won by some bizarre score last year after being down 3-0? Brodeur night was in 15-16 season, which was 3 seasons ago. Time flies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MB3 5,286 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: 2016-17: Oilers win 2-1 (OT) and 3-2 (OT) 2017-18: Oilers win 6-3 and 3-2 (OT) Devils last beat the Oilers on 11/20/2015 prior to this year (won 5-1) I was at the Brodeur game. It was definitely 2016. It was definitely against the Oilers. And it was definitely a win. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MB3 5,286 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said: Brodeur night was in 15-16 season, which was 3 seasons ago. Time flies. Ahhh and I realized I’m definitely thinking of the Blackhawks game last year, not Edmonton. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MadDog2020 8,546 Posted October 17, 2018 Author Share Posted October 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Devils last beat the Oilers on 11/20/2015 prior to this year (won 5-1) We beat them on Marty night in 2016. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NJDfan1711 1,717 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: 2016-17: Oilers win 2-1 (OT) and 3-2 (OT) 2017-18: Oilers win 6-3 and 3-2 (OT) Devils last beat the Oilers on 11/20/2015 prior to this year (won 5-1) Actually, that was a 5-1 loss on 11/20/15. We beat them on 2/9/16 2-1, which was Brodeur night, as KitB alluded to. 2009-10 season: Sun Mar 7 2010 at Edm Edmonton 2, New Jersey 0 2010-11 season: Fri Nov 12 2010 at NJ New Jersey 4, Edmonton 3 (OT) 2011-12 season: Wed Jan 11 2012 at Edm New Jersey 2, Edmonton 1 (OT) 2013-14 season: Mon Oct 7 2013 at Edm Edmonton 5, New Jersey 4 (SO) 2013-14 season: Fri Feb 7 2014 at NJ New Jersey 2, Edmonton 1 (OT) 2014-15 season: Fri Nov 21 2014 at Edm New Jersey 2, Edmonton 0 2014-15 season: Mon Feb 9 2015 at NJ Edmonton 2, New Jersey 1 2015-16 season: Fri Nov 20 2015 at Edm Edmonton 5, New Jersey 1 2015-16 season: Tue Feb 9 2016 at NJ New Jersey 2, Edmonton 1 2016-17 season: Sat Jan 7 2017 at NJ Edmonton 2, New Jersey 1 (OT) 2016-17 season: Thu Jan 12 2017 at Edm Edmonton 3, New Jersey 2 (OT) 2017-18 season: Fri Nov 3 2017 at Edm Edmonton 6, New Jersey 3 2017-18 season: Thu Nov 9 2017 at NJ Edmonton 3, New Jersey 2 (OT) 2018-19 season: Sat Oct 6 2018 at NJ New Jersey 5, Edmonton 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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