Nicomo Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 minute ago, jagknife said: Meanwhile Torts has an inferior roster to ours playing out of their minds. Sure they’re coming back to earth but they sprinted long enough to ride a wave for now. They’ve actually won 3 in a row now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButlerBulldog Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 2 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Yeah I like Fitz in general but man he really gets quiet when things don’t go according to plan. Which, to me, is a huge red flag. Accountability is always important, but it’s most important when things go badly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 The jury is still out on Fitz as far as I’m concerned. He signed Jack and Bratt to great deals, and landed Dougie, but his recent trades aren’t looking particularly good. And then there’s extending Lindy and the goaltending debacle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 For those who want a goalie so bad, why is Brayden Holtby a free agent? Dude is only 34, has a bad year with the Canucks a couple years ago but his year with the Stars was fine. Couldn't sign him to a short and inexpensive contract? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ELIAS6 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 4 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said: For those who want a goalie so bad, why is Brayden Holtby a free agent? Dude is only 34, has a bad year with the Canucks a couple years ago but his year with the Stars was fine. Couldn't sign him to a short and inexpensive contract? It would almost be worth scooping him for the rest of the season and just seeing if he could outperform the junk we currently are stuck with. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nicomo Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 28 minutes ago, nmigliore said: Missing 2 top 4 d, and playing 2 rookies. Yet the coaches have done nothing (before last night) to tighten up the defensive system to make things any easier for them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 hour ago, NJDfan1711 said: For those who want a goalie so bad, why is Brayden Holtby a free agent? Dude is only 34, has a bad year with the Canucks a couple years ago but his year with the Stars was fine. Couldn't sign him to a short and inexpensive contract? I wanna say he had hip issues? But if he’s willing to come here and play, I’m literally for everything including a shooter tutor being strapped to the goal in place of VV 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButlerBulldog Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 8 minutes ago, jagknife said: I wanna say he had hip issues? But if he’s willing to come here and play, I’m literally for everything including a shooter tutor being strapped to the goal in place of VV According to this (very nice) article, he suffered an unspecified lower body injury but filled in for Anton Khudobin while with the Stars because of his hip injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 https://newjerseyhockeynow.com/2024/02/12/issue-that-halted-the-jacob-markstrom-flames-devils-trade/?fbclid=IwAR17ZlZCMu0LyyAYkW1xnTlnWKYzWrtF35g8xZWU4-Kq_RJFBPx1i832iqk_aem_AePXjqWc-_9nSXKEj7r6H-VpJgKf5CVhwUwS3MqIrDc5wIrpumxxZN7Jjp0qseD3BuE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessus Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, MadDog2020 said: https://newjerseyhockeynow.com/2024/02/12/issue-that-halted-the-jacob-markstrom-flames-devils-trade/?fbclid=IwAR17ZlZCMu0LyyAYkW1xnTlnWKYzWrtF35g8xZWU4-Kq_RJFBPx1i832iqk_aem_AePXjqWc-_9nSXKEj7r6H-VpJgKf5CVhwUwS3MqIrDc5wIrpumxxZN7Jjp0qseD3BuE Interesting take about Holtz being on Jack’s wing for that game. I have to say I would be pretty upset if Holtz went the other way in a trade for Markstrom. If that’s really what the trade was looking like, then I’m glad the flames owners are so cheap. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralous Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, MadDog2020 said: https://newjerseyhockeynow.com/2024/02/12/issue-that-halted-the-jacob-markstrom-flames-devils-trade/?fbclid=IwAR17ZlZCMu0LyyAYkW1xnTlnWKYzWrtF35g8xZWU4-Kq_RJFBPx1i832iqk_aem_AePXjqWc-_9nSXKEj7r6H-VpJgKf5CVhwUwS3MqIrDc5wIrpumxxZN7Jjp0qseD3BuE I would be bummed to give up on Holtz now that he's kind of turned the corner but I think the Flames have an Owner that refuses to rebuild so a package of futures probably doesn't do it. Is retention on a 6 million AAV above average goaltender really a deal breaker for us assuming they're taking Vanacek back? We still have the Hamilton LTIR space to get through this year. Going forward, maybe Fitz needs to budget more that 5% of our cap towards the position. Besides, term is usually what gets you in trouble with goalies, not AAV. Edited February 12 by Lateralous 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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smelly Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, nessus said: Interesting take about Holtz being on Jack’s wing for that game. I have to say I would be pretty upset if Holtz went the other way in a trade for Markstrom. If that’s really what the trade was looking like, then I’m glad the flames owners are so cheap. Yup. I suggested this was exactly what was happening in a post before the Calgary game. Still hoping it’s Casey instead. Edited February 12 by smelly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smelly Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lateralous said: I would be bummed to give up on Holtz now that he's kind of turned the corner but I think the Flames have an Owner that refuses to rebuild so a package of futures probably doesn't do it. Is retention on a 6 million AAV above average goaltender really a deal breaker for us assuming they're taking Vanacek back? We still have the Hamilton LTIR space to get through this year. Going forward, maybe Fitz needs to budget more that 5% of our cap towards the position. Besides, term is usually what gets you in trouble with goalies, not AAV. I’m guessing Fitz’s concern about retention isn’t about the rest of this season. Interesting that if Holtz goes then Fitz will have traded two of his three first rounders that year for vets. He better be right about whom he’s chosen to invest in. Edited February 12 by smelly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, smelly said: I’m guessing Fitz’s concern about retention isn’t about the rest of this season. Yeah it’s no doubt to do with the final two seasons at $6 million per. Fitz is probably asking for 50% retention. I wonder if there’s a compromise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralous Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 23 minutes ago, smelly said: I’m guessing Fitz’s concern about retention isn’t about the rest of this season. 20 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: Yeah it’s no doubt to do with the final two seasons at $6 million per. Fitz is probably asking for 50% retention. I wonder if there’s a compromise. Understood. I guess I should have been clearer in the main part of my point. Is paying full salary for a good/great goalie making 6 million AAV really a deal breaker or should we be allotting more than 5% of our cap room to the position? We're spending 4.25 right now on this tandem and it's among the worst in the league. Also factor in that the salary cap is going up so it will be a smaller percentage than the 7.2% he takes up now. Edited February 12 by Lateralous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ButlerBulldog Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 12 minutes ago, Nicomo said: Looks like I’ll be treated to a second helping of Schmid tomorrow evening, unless Vanecek recovers in time to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, ButlerBulldog said: Looks like I’ll be treated to a second helping of Schmid tomorrow evening, unless Vanecek recovers in time to play. Going to the game in Nashville? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButlerBulldog Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 9 minutes ago, Nicomo said: Going to the game in Nashville? Yes, I’ll be there, and probably screaming at Lindy. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 4 minutes ago, ButlerBulldog said: Yes, I’ll be there, and probably screaming at Lindy. He’ll just turn his hearing aid off. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButlerBulldog Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) The Predators are hosting a special panel—of which Fitz will be a part—before tomorrow night’s game. I wish I could go and and ask him what he plans to do about this season’s team. Edited February 13 by ButlerBulldog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) Interesting segment from the article... "Yesterday, Elliotte Friedman reported that although the deal died, the Devils and Flames were in agreement on a package that worked for both teams. The Devils were reportedly ready to at least make Swedish sniper Alexander Holtz as part of the transaction. However, Friedman also reported that he believed the issue between the two teams was Calgary retaining salary on Markstrom’s $6 million cap hit. Now, Seravalli believes the Devils will need to look elsewhere for help in goal." Edited February 13 by Satans Hockey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 5 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said: Interesting... Sounds like the deal was just about done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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