theamazingtiny Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Most days Montreal is a real head scratcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Either they're really, really dumb for trading a guy who was awesome in the playoffs, or they're smart enough to know that the butterfly and gigantic pads have diluted the position to the point where goalies are a dime a dozen (check out who was between the pipes for this year's Finals) and trade while his value is at its highest. Boom! Nail on head. Thread over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim777 Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 It's going to cost 4 Mil to sign him, that was likely a large factor in the decision as well. Still, Price isn't the answer up there, and won't become the answer either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Say what you will about the lessening importance of the goaltender position in the NHL, but the Habs may have traded a star for peanuts. We may be talking about this one 10 years from now in the same way we talk about Neely-Pederson and other lopsided trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutral Zone Trap Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 what a great way to say thank you to a guy who carried you on his back; send his ass to the sh!ttiest city in USA. He's going to St Louis, not New York......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 He's going to St Louis, not New York......... Oh shut the fvck up already with your nonsense. You may become the first person I will have ever put on ignore here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Puddy Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 He's going to St Louis, not New York......... Seriously? You're making a joke that two people already made? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sokar Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 The Colorado Avalanche sent the rights to forward T.J. Hensick to the St. Louis Blues on Thursday in exchange for the rights to forward Julian Talbot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutral Zone Trap Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Oh shut the fvck up already with your nonsense. You may become the first person I will have ever put on ignore here. I'm devastated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 (edited) Edited June 18, 2010 by ben00rs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfsharkalligatorhalfman Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Thoughts 1. This is only a good trade for Montreal if they can resign Carey Price for pretty cheap. 2. Halak was probably going to be overpaid this offseason as an RFA, but they may have been able to get him back for around 2 million dollars. I think that's reasonable. I think they made this trade because they saw Huet's contract (given under much different circumstances) and figured there was no way they could get Halak back at a reasonable price given his postseason run. I am not so sure thats the case. I think if Price has more trade value, retaining Halak at around 2 mill and trading Price for young cheap talent may have been a better move. 3. I don't know enough about the prospects beyond draft position and stats but it looks like a pretty even trade. St. Louis needs a goalie and neither of the guys they gave up were vital cogs, regardless they look like surefire NHLers and contributors. 4. I admire Montreal for not giving into the fans and media desires and doing what they think is best for the organization, but they may have been too bold for their own good. Price in Montreal has not been the best of fits. Giving him a big contract now after dumping Halak is just asking for fans to turn on the team as soon as things start getting shaky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsrule33 Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 (edited) I like the idea of trading Halak. Having said that...this was a complete botch job by Gauthier. This was a rushed deal and straight out of the Mike O'Connell school of GMing. Apparently, many GMs had no idea Halak was on the market and were furious since they would have offered more. If the Habs leak a potential deal to the press, you probably have 5 GMs calling with some good offers. Edited June 18, 2010 by devilsrule33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 I like the idea of trading Halak. Having said that...this was a complete botched job by Gauthier. This was a rushed deal and straight out of the Mike O'Connell school of GMing. Apparently, many GMs had no idea Halak was on the market and were furious since they would have offered more. If the Habs leak a potential deal to the press, you probably have 5 GMs calling with some good offers. i don't believe that. there aren't even 5 teams that need a starting goaltender. i'm also not convinced those GMs would've offered more. eller is cost-controlled. the flyers can't afford to offer anyone cost-controlled. the lightning don't have anyone cost-controlled. san jose would have a hard time offering anyone cost-controlled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 I like the idea of trading Halak. Having said that...this was a complete botch job by Gauthier. This was a rushed deal and straight out of the Mike O'Connell school of GMing. Apparently, many GMs had no idea Halak was on the market and were furious since they would have offered more. If the Habs leak a potential deal to the press, you probably have 5 GMs calling with some good offers. Probably true. Tampa, Atlanta, Philly, Dallas, Ottawa, possibly Washington and San Jose easily could have been bidders. Montreal could have gotten some salary cap dump benefits out of some of these trading partners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masked Fan Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Wow. This is one of those make or break moves. Next season shall judge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 This is one of those make or break moves. Next season shall judge. I don't buy that. Montreal will be the same team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masked Fan Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 I don't buy that. Montreal will be the same team. That would mean the dude calling the shots keeps his job. I didn't mean make or break like the team will get so much better, I meant the dude who pulled this trade will either be the goat when Halak kicks ass/his replacement blows or called a genius with Halaks' bad performance/his replacements' good performance. and btw I really hope they are not the same! My goodness! ECF!?!? really?!??!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 That would mean the dude calling the shots keeps his job. I didn't mean make or break like the team will get so much better, I meant the dude who pulled this trade will either be the goat when Halak kicks ass/his replacement blows or called a genius with Halaks' bad performance/his replacements' good performance. and btw I really hope they are not the same! My goodness! ECF!?!? really?!??!? I don't know if they'll get to the ECF again, but they'll certainly go into next season as a team with a great defense that closes on pucks and an offense that struggles but finds a way to score important ones. However, no matter what, you won't see the MTL goalie (probably Price) being the game changer for them and neither was Halak during the season. (and IMO during the playoffs too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 I don't know if they'll get to the ECF again, but they'll certainly go into next season as a team with a great defense that closes on pucks and an offense that struggles but finds a way to score important ones. However, no matter what, you won't see the MTL goalie (probably Price) being the game changer for them and neither was Halak during the season. (and IMO during the playoffs too) In case you missed it Halak turned the team around and got them INTO the playoffs and became their playoff MVP. Price 13-20 as a starter last year, will basically allow them to draft in the top 10 in the 2011 draft. They will NOT be the same "team". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 In case you missed it Halak turned the team around and got them INTO the playoffs and became their playoff MVP. Price 13-20 as a starter last year, will basically allow them to draft in the top 10 in the 2011 draft. They will NOT be the same "team". Nope didn't miss it. Halak played extremely well towards the end of the season and for many games in the playoffs. But it was the team around him that got them deep, they were terrfic. Don't let emotions cloud your judgment, it's fun to pretend Halak was divinly inspired in the playoffs but the truth is his defense was incredible. So was Halak great in the playoffs? Yea, for the most part. Will Halak be amazing next season? I'd say 20 percent chance. He will be good. That's it. If the Blues play well around him, they will go far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Nope didn't miss it. Halak played extremely well towards the end of the season and for many games in the playoffs. But it was the team around him that got them deep, they were terrfic. Don't let emotions cloud your judgment, it's fun to pretend Halak was divinly inspired in the playoffs but the truth is his defense was incredible. So was Halak great in the playoffs? Yea, for the most part. Will Halak be amazing next season? I'd say 20 percent chance. He will be good. That's it. If the Blues play well around him, they will go far. Oh I see, it was a magic wand that all of sudden made Montreal's mediocre defense into an "incredible" one. The Habs got crushed every game in the playoffs statistically. I was Halak who made the big saves, inspite of his defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par9 Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 At least now we can dismiss Marty for Price trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucifersDog Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 I like the fact that the fans demonstrated their displeasure to the management of the Canadians regarding the Canadians move of Halak. I am sure the team made an assessment and decided he should go what I don't understand is how little they got for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Nope didn't miss it. Halak played extremely well towards the end of the season and for many games in the playoffs. But it was the team around him that got them deep, they were terrfic. Don't let emotions cloud your judgment, it's fun to pretend Halak was divinly inspired in the playoffs but the truth is his defense was incredible. So was Halak great in the playoffs? Yea, for the most part. Will Halak be amazing next season? I'd say 20 percent chance. He will be good. That's it. If the Blues play well around him, they will go far. Montreal was outplayed in a bunch of games against Pittsburgh and Washington. Halak was a big difference, making over 40 saves a few times, and over 50 at least once. Price hasn't been able to show he can handle that pressure yet. That being said, I think moving Halak while he was at such a high value was a smart move, but I'm shocked they didn't get just a little more for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devils26 Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 I think the biggest gamble that is being taken here is the Habs on Price in the short-term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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