trailblazer Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 (edited) The math is not adding up. Who would want to take our garbage to free up cap space? Edited July 1, 2010 by trailblazer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 per lou via TG: "If something can be worked out, we'll find (cap) room" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 They sign Kovy and I've gotta think it's bye-bye Parise at the end of this season or next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamtheprodigy Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 We're not done making moves yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theamazingtiny Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 I def agree with the rabbit scenario. It will take some magic to make it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 I say sign now and worry about the cap later. We have the whole offseason to unload. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devs4LIFE Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Consider this scenario to free up cap space. We trade Salvador and Elias to Minnesota and in return we get Burns and Brodziak, this should clear up enough space for Kovy. I know Elias has a NTC but if he goes to the Wild not only would he probably be their top LW/go to guy for offense but he would have a chance to play with his longtime friend/countryman/ Martin Havlat.eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Rattlehead18 Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Hopefully it means moving Rolston somehow and giving some of that money to Kovalchuk. Parise isn't going anywhere either. As I said before, Arnotts money is going straight to Parise next year. The only reason why I want Kovalchuk is so we didn't give away Bergfors and Oduya for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 They sign Kovy and I've gotta think it's bye-bye Parise at the end of this season or next. I said this on another board and some fly-by-night Devils fans started to cry and told me I was "exaggerating". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devs3cups Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Parise is an RFA next year. He's not going anywhere. Arnotts money is going to parise next summer and a lot of other cash. So we will lock Parise long term. For sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylbert Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Parise is an RFA next year. He's not going anywhere. Arnotts money is going to parise next summer and a lot of other cash. . I hope not... 4.5 (Arnott's cap) + 3.125 (Parise Cap) = 7.625. Which is just about right (hopefully 6.5-7mm will do). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 I said this on another board and some fly-by-night Devils fans started to cry and told me I was "exaggerating". Even if the Devils sign Kovy, Parise could be resigned for a good price. It just depends on how much trash Lou can get rid of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njd3b1ink Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Even if the Devils get Kovalchuk, (assuming they move a contract to fit him in) all they would need to do is take the 4.5m coming of off Arnotts contract after next season and put it towards Zach. Plus hes an RFA, he's not going anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellOnICE Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 How about this ? 9,9,9,9,9,9, 500k, 500k, 500k, 500k with full knowledge he skips to the KHL after year 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 They sign Kovy and I've gotta think it's bye-bye Parise at the end of this season or next. Why? After two seasons (when Parise's contract is up) Rolston is off the books, Langs is off the books after this year and who knows what other cap space gets cleared or how much the cap increases by then. My main worry with Parise is if we keep losing in the first round or worse every year he isn't going to want to re-sign with us no matter how much cap room we have, he's a competitor and is tired of getting his teeth kicked in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devils26 Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 How about this ? 9,9,9,9,9,9, 500k, 500k, 500k, 500k with full knowledge he skips to the KHL after year 6. I'm not sure if you're serious, but I don't think the cap allows you to make that big of a dropoff in salary. It'd have to be done more gradually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 My main worry with Parise is if we keep losing in the first round or worse every year he isn't going to want to re-sign with us no matter how much cap room we have, he's a competitor and is tired of getting his teeth kicked in. Now this, is actually a legit concern. In this scenario he irony is, signing Kovy would make it more likely that we resign Parise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailblazer Posted July 2, 2010 Author Share Posted July 2, 2010 Let me ask this. Lou doesn't make the deal for Arnott, we have more than enough for Kovy, correct? There are 2 problems with trying to trade Rolston as I see it: 1. How is Lou going to convince another GM to take Rolston for the next 2 years at $5M per. 2. Even is Lou found a sucker, Rolston has a full NTC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Now this, is actually a legit concern. In this scenario he irony is, signing Kovy would make it more likely that we resign Parise. Just the opposite. It is more likely that Parise leaves for greener pastures to find his own team (again). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Just the opposite. It is more likely that Parise leaves for greener pastures to find his own team (again). Ok, that's fair. But, I don't see Parise as that type of player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Andy Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Maybe if we all wink at the same time Rolston will disappear along with his $5 million cap hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 How about this ? 9,9,9,9,9,9, 500k, 500k, 500k, 500k with full knowledge he skips to the KHL after year 6. can't drop that quickly - no year can be, i believe, 25% less than the previous - or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilNurn Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Maybe if we all wink at the same time Rolston will disappear along with his $5 million cap hit. ;) ;) ;) ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatansDevils Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Lou signs Kovy this season and next season will be all about Parise and his long term contract and the next captain of the Devils. Please, do you guys really think parise is going elsewhere? No way. Lou is not stupid. Relax take a deep breath because parise will get his payday next season. right Lou wants Kovy and still believe he will find a way to get him back here to New Jersey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Lou signs Kovy this season and next season will be all about Parise and his long term contract and the next captain of the Devils. Please, do you guys really think parise is going elsewhere? No way. Lou is not stupid. Relax take a deep breath because parise will get his payday next season. right Lou wants Kovy and still believe he will find a way to get him back here to New Jersey. Unless Kovalchuk does a one-year Hossa-like deal, the two salaries cannot co-exist without running the risk that Parise gets to arbitration, at which point you can bet your bottom dollar he'll be another soon to be ex-Devil who was just "testing the market." If I'm Vanderbeek, I'm telling Lou that unless he can pull a rabbit out of his hat and ship Rolston and Salvador out of town within the next few days to forget about Kovalchuk and have Parise signed to a 7 year $49 to $52 million before the season starts. And even with Rolston/Salvador off the books, it still makes having Kovalchuk and Parise making $7 to 7.5 million each while having enough left over to make sure a good chunk of the roster isn't made up of AHLers extremely tricky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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